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Justin Godscock posted:It's the year 2013 and little nuggets like the Hulk Hogan inflatable raft just keep surfacing. I love WCW. WCW: The gift that keeps on giving.
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If only the Hulk Hogan Raft could have kept WCW afloat..
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Jun 3, 2013 13:51
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LordPants posted:If only the Hulk Hogan Raft could have kept WCW afloat.. 
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Jun 3, 2013 13:58
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The Raft! It's not Hot?!
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Jun 4, 2013 02:45
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Tuesday Nitro will start a bit later tonight, 9:30 PM: http://sync.coconono.org/r/greatestnitroinhistoryofoursport The second episode features Dean Malenko vs Jushin Liger.
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Please join us at like 8:00 or 8:30 or something for the official WCW pregame show, which will be a showcase of the most damaging and stupid indy movez! Will there be a Psycho Driver from a scaffold to the ring? Will there be avalanche Canadian Destroyers? Will there be a tiny man given a Razor's Edge from the ring to the dirt outside? Oh yes! So join us at maybe 8. There's at least a 30% chance we actually do this. edit: wait which thread is this. Well, I have my pride. I die here with this post. Strenuous Manflurry fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jun 4, 2013 |
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New retro Observer! This one covers the aftermath of WCW Uncensored.quote:However, the main event, a not well thought out two-on-eight match involving Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage turned out to be even worse than one would have figured going in, and going in people were expecting the worst. The rules of the match were never explained, and in hindsight it appears because nobody had figured them out. On one television show they said the match would be held in the Triple Tower of Doom, a contraption Kevin Sullivan came up with nearly eight years ago for a PPV event. By the TBS show the day before the event, fans were told it would be a four deck cage, complete with trap doors, and it was emphasized that Brian Pillman would be part of the heel team plus they would have a surprise mystery man to finish out the squad as the plans from the previous weekend were changed once again. As it turned out, despite spending the better part of the Saturday show building the match around Pillman being there, he wasn't, and the two slots were taken by Meng & The Barbarian. Reports were that Pillman couldn't make it due to medical complications stemming from his throat surgery the previous week and WCW was aware of it by Thursday afternoon. When the WCW Saturday Night show was taped on Wednesday night, they weren't aware Pillman wasn't going to be there, although it's not clear whether they actually informed him that he was going to be announced as being in the main event before taping the interviews announcing it to the world. When Pillman informed the office the next day he wasn't going to be there, they had two days to make whatever edits were necessary to not false advertise, but aired the show as is anyway. Then, after spending the Saturday show hyping Pillman as the main last minute thrust for late buys, on the Sunday Main Event show, being done live, they never once mentioned Pillman wasn't going to be in the match as advertised. Even WWF couldn't resist making remarks about bait-and-switch on PPVs the next night on Raw. On Nitro the day after the show, Eric Bischoff gave as a lame reason for Pillman not being there that he refused to team up with Kevin Sullivan, so Pillman wasn't buried on the air for not being there as some had speculated would happen since there was heat regarding it. On Booty Man vs. DDP: quote:Finish saw Page go to kiss Kimberly, who was dressed up like a ballerina in a sixth grade play and acting like a sixth grade girl around the ring saying things like, "I want him to be my boy friend." Kimberly slapped him, stunning Page and Booty hit a high knee which was more like a low knee for the pin in 16:00. Booty Man than kissed Kimberly and she sold it like it was her first kiss of her life. Even by the standards of pro wrestling, this angle is the most unrealistic thing in the world. DUD This could be the worst major main event ever. quote:7. Hulk Hogan (Terry Bollea) & Randy Savage (Randy Poffo) beat Meng (Uliuli Fifita) & Barbarian (Sionne Vailahi) & Ric Flair (Richard Fliehr) & Arn Anderson (Marty Lunde) & Kevin Sullivan & Lex Luger (Larry Pfohl) & Ze Gangsta (Tom Lister) & Ultimate Solution (Jeep Swenson) in 25:16. Hogan & Savage worked with Flair & Anderson on the top level, and threw powder at them to go to the middle level. There they faced Sullivan, Luger, Meng & Barbarian. They locked Meng & Barbarian in half of the middle level cage, and then the other four wound up in the wrestling ring. Finally Jeep & Zeus, who weren't even there at the beginning (Schiavone kept asking where Jeep, Zeus and Pillman were, still hinting that Pillman would be there even though he wasn't, taking the bait-and-switch well past any point of sensibility), showed up. They dragged Hogan & Savage into the bottom level of the cage and it only got worse since they can't work. Somewhere while all this was going on, Meng & Barbarian were let out of their cage and simply walked backstage. Finally Sullivan, Luger, Flair and Anderson were in the bottom cage so it was six-on-two. Jimmy Hart gave Luger a loaded black glove and he went to hit Savage, who ducked, and then he held up, then changed his mind and KO'd Flair for the pin. -*** Tony Schiavone, keeping it real. quote:The humorous backstage note on the show was that when the show started, Flair, Heenan and Okerlund still hadn't arrived. The story is that they got lost trying to find Tupelo from coming in at the Memphis Airport the day of the show. Usually everyone gets in a day early for PPV events but Flair had some kind of a commitment the night before and since he's a pro, nobody ever worries about him. That's why Lee Marshall opened the Main Event show and when Okerlund finally appeared about 15 minutes into the show, he had done a rushed make-up job, why Bobby Heenan wasn't in a suit (and why at the end of the show Tony Schiavone made a crack about not to get lost wherever they were going) and why Flair missed the first heel interview during the Main Event show. There was a deal with the WCW Cruiserweight title, but it appears the WCW section might not have been transcribed.
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Jun 5, 2013 14:05
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That sure is a whole lot of negative stars. This match sounds amazing.
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quote:who weren't even there at the beginning (Schiavone kept asking where Jeep, Zeus and Pillman were, still hinting that Pillman would be there even though he wasn't, taking the bait-and-switch well past any point of sensibility) If I recall this is the one that Pillman ducked out of to preserve his career, even though Hogan wanted him (to job). So I suppose it's possible that no one told Schiavone that Pillman was not going to wrestle, perhaps because they themselves didn't know.
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Jun 5, 2013 15:17
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Memento1979 posted:That sure is a whole lot of negative stars. This match sounds amazing. Once you watch it you can not unwatch it http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5i9yo_hulk-hogan-macho-man-randy-savage-v_sport
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Jun 5, 2013 15:20
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Memento1979 posted:That sure is a whole lot of negative stars. This match sounds amazing. It was on the Tuesday Night Nitro playlist a few weeks ago. Words can not adequately describe it. Everything past Meng getting locked in the second tier cage is just an utter train wreck. Dave even skimped on the Booty Man clearing the cage with frying pans. Or Hogan trying to throw Sullivan off the scaffolding for five minutes. At least the camera work was decent.
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Jun 5, 2013 15:29
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Its a cool cage and I hope someone tries to use it again. But this time with a more sensible match structure.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:If I recall this is the one that Pillman ducked out of to preserve his career, even though Hogan wanted him (to job). So I suppose it's possible that no one told Schiavone that Pillman was not going to wrestle, perhaps because they themselves didn't know. Yeah, I read an article Meltzer wrote after Pillman's death a bit ago, and this is the one where Pillman just "had" to get surgery at that moment.
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Jun 5, 2013 15:36
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coconono posted:Its a cool cage and I hope someone tries to use it again. But this time with a more sensible match structure. Someone said that Hogan probably nixed the original match and I'd agree. Its also a shame that Dave didn't mention the ending a bit more in depth. Flair and Anderson were the first wrestlers eliminated after Hogan and Savage through baby powder in their faces. They made it to the next level. At the end of the match, Flair and Arn are still wrestling after getting released. Tony said they were eliminated. Luger punches Flair with that goddamned coal miner's glove. Hogan and Savage walk out of the cage before Savage realized someone needs to make a pin or something to end this train wreck. So he pins Flair, the first guy who was eliminated from the match. God I saw that match once and its been etched into my brain. gently caress. That. Match.
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Jun 5, 2013 15:38
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Pretty sure Dave's mind shut down at some point in that match. I know mind did.
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My favorites:quote:WCW Uncensored on 3/24 from the Tupelo, MS Coliseum received blistering reviews. Many wrote and faxed in that they believed it to have been the worst PPV show in history. For a show that had three matches out of seven that were good, that's a harsh review and one I can't go along with. However, the main event may go down as the worst main event in PPV history. It was a fiasco on more different levels than the number of levels of cages in the stage area. quote:However, the main event, a not well thought out two-on-eight match involving Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage turned out to be even worse than one would have figured going in, and going in people were expecting the worst. The rules of the match were never explained, and in hindsight it appears because nobody had figured them out.
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bobkatt013 posted:Once you watch it you can not unwatch it Jesus loving Christ, that was monotony at its best. Any idea whose idea this was?
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uncleKitchener posted:Jesus loving Christ, that was monotony at its best. Any idea whose idea this was? Hogan's.
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The coal miner's glove thing is so hilarious because of Luger botching it. Savage was supposed to drop at the last second letting him clock Flair, but Luger pulls the punch for a second before Savage drops....and THEN still goes through with decking Flair anyways. The whole match is absolutely atrocious from top to bottom. It's extremely entertaining for just how bad it was from top to bottom. Convoluted rules, no sense of order, horrendous work rate, clueless and unprofessional commentary, and a gently caress finish if there ever was one. It's basically so bad that it's good to watch. WCW.
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Jun 5, 2013 19:28
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And it's worth repeating that one of the bad guys in that match was debuted under the name "The Final Solution".
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:And it's worth repeating that one of the bad guys in that match was debuted under the name "The Final Solution".
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Jun 5, 2013 20:55
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I tried watching it, as I tuned into that Uncensored sync some time ago, but the DDP VS. Booty Man match just had me... Amazed, and not in a good way. I couldn't even recognize DDP. I stopped there, but found the main event on DailyMotion, tried watching it, and just couldn't. It's unbearable. If you can enjoy it in that 'this movie is so bad that it's good' way, good for you, I wish I could.
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Rad R. posted:I tried watching it, as I tuned into that Uncensored sync some time ago, but the DDP VS. Booty Man match just had me... Amazed, and not in a good way. I couldn't even recognize DDP. I stopped there, but found the main event on DailyMotion, tried watching it, and just couldn't. It's unbearable. If you can enjoy it in that 'this movie is so bad that it's good' way, good for you, I wish I could. In fairness, most of it is completely unwatchable poo poo. The "so bad it's good" part is the dumb finish.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:52
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Watching the Nitro sync right now. Insane, chaotic. Dumb. But Flair is pure gold, and so is Macho. I'm discovering new ways to hate Bischoff. Also, is chat working or not? Can't seem to comment.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:57
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Rad R. posted:Watching the Nitro sync right now. Insane, chaotic. Dumb. But Flair is pure gold, and so is Macho. I'm discovering new ways to hate Bischoff. Also, is chat working or not? Can't seem to comment. Did you make a name, even a guest name, in the top right?
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Jun 5, 2013 22:04
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Wow, I didn't even look there. Thanks. Guess I'll blame Luger's face.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:And it's worth repeating that one of the bad guys in that match was debuted under the name "The Final Solution". WCW was pretty dumb for spoiling that he wouldn't be able to get the job done.
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MassRafTer posted:WCW was pretty dumb for spoiling that he wouldn't be able to get the job done. The Penultimate Solution. Apparently that dude was Bane in one of the Batman movies. 
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Jun 5, 2013 22:16
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The best Batman movie (with the exception of Batman: The Movie.)
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MassRafTer posted:The best Batman movie (with the exception of Batman: The Movie.) And the one a bunch of us watched on synchtube one night
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I'm watching that Youtube clip show of every single nWo segment, and Heenan saying "is everyone turning on everyone?!" cracked me up for some reason.
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:In fairness, most of it is completely unwatchable poo poo. The "so bad it's good" part is the dumb finish. Watching that finish, I seriously thought it was a twist ending where Luger was turning to save Savage and Hogan.
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Claytor posted:Watching that finish, I seriously thought it was a twist ending where Luger was turning to save Savage and Hogan. Well, kinda. WCW had been running an angle where Luger and Sting were friends, despite Luger being a heel and having some kind of association with the Dungeon of Doom. Everyone kept telling Sting that Lex was going to betray him at some point, and Sting being Sting ignored them. At the PPV, it was supposed to be Luger/Sting vs. Road Warriors, but Luger was put into the tower clusterfuck and that's what led to the Sting/Booker vs. Road Warriors snoozer. If anything, the Luger hesitation before hitting Flair may have been the only decent part of the match, since it cemented Luger as a face. The blowoff came at War Games, where the nWo Sting had everyone convinced that Sting had turned, and when Sting protested Luger didn't believe him. Having had Luger's back despite everyone telling him otherwise, yet people doubting Sting the second it appeared he had turned, caused Sting to snap and go into the rafters for a year and a half.
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bobkatt013 posted:Once you watch it you can not unwatch it Holy poo poo that was bad. That was so bad. I think that match gave me rabies.
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The frying pan spot is just so... so magnificently awful. It's really something I'll never get out of my brain.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Well, kinda. Ah ok, so the spot isn't a botch then...it's a semi-face turn. That wasn't apparent to me because this was WCW after all.
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Gnome Enthusiast posted:The frying pan spot is just so... so magnificently awful. It's really something I'll never get out of my brain. Also the part where Savage goes to walk out at a normal pace, then dives back in to pin Flair(?!) and then falls out of the cage like he's just run for his life 20 minute straight.
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coconono posted:Also the part where Savage goes to walk out at a normal pace, then dives back in to pin Flair(?!) and then falls out of the cage like he's just run for his life 20 minute straight. See, that finish would've been great if it was a pin-or-escape match. Then, it's Savage going for the opportunity to actually beat Flair instead of just escaping a cage, and is kind of an interesting character moment.
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triplexpac posted:I'm watching that Youtube clip show of every single nWo segment, and Heenan saying "is everyone turning on everyone?!" cracked me up for some reason. I watched that too, and cracked up at the same line. I just imagined Bobby had just witnessed a crack in time so he could see into the future, like the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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You might notice that Bobby's predictions and comments become more out there as the weeks go on. This was because Bischoff gave him a massive poo poo fit post the Hogan turn at Bash for correctly predicting the turn, and informed him that he should try and be less smart. Despite his predictions become more out there he still ended up being on the mark more times than not up until he just stopped caring.
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