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I rarely read professional reviews of albums. I feel like listener reviews are more reliable.
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40 lbs to freedom posted:i mean there is an endless amount of pitchfork cringe basically anything at all written on the site before like 2015. idk when they got bought by conde nast but whoever forced them to stop writing radiohead reviews as long form experimental poetry or whatever deserves some credit The one specific writer who wrote the infamous Kid A review also wrote a lot of the other really infamous ones, so when he left, that automatically made the site a lot more palatable... if also less interesting. (I remember when he left because most of the Beastie Boys To the 5 Boroughs review was just his longform journal entry explaining why he was leaving.)
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Put some respect on Brent’s name please. His reviews ruled. I honestly do think the actual text of pitchfork reviews has been the one thing that has consistently been good, even the weird old ones were fun and worth reading even if when they were prose madness like the dicrescenzo bangers.
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Escobarbarian posted:Honestly RIP Pitchfork. They’ve been a joke in some ways for a while but they still had some really good poo poo including their Sunday reviews and as bad as they could be every other music site has always been worse so I think this still sux yeah you can make all the goop on ya grinch jokes and roll your eyes when they bury a new album by a band they used to like because they're popular now you want, and I will make those same jokes. I never LOVED pitchfork and found some of their writers annoying. But it sucks to see yet another publication that had a perspective and a niche get dumpstered, and their reviews and year end lists invariably introduced me to things i wouldn't have heard about to given a shot to otherwise.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Ah, nothing like the retrospective “we poo poo on something that ended up popular, oops” re-review to confirm that a music publication has passed its expiration date. The originator of this is rolling stone giving negative reviews to Led Zeppelin’s entire catalog lol i think this is sort of unfair. first off, those two reviews are by different people. two writers for the same publication are under no obligation to write to a party line, and in fact it's cool that pitchfork would publish both perspectives. And there's nothing wrong with changing your mind about a piece of art, even if we can kind of speculate that the change, towards the positive or the negative, is partially motivated by changing consensus.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:11
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That is more grace then I would personally offer to the site that published this: https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/pitchfork-reviews-rescored/ With no input from the people who wrote the original reviews. It’s reshaping their editorial stance on things because they don’t feel like what they did originally fits the proper narrative any more. It’s cowardly
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Jan 18, 2024 21:16
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Bismack Billabongo posted:That is more grace then I would personally offer to the site that published this: if they took down the old reviews i'd agree, but you can go and read the guy call andrew w.k. "tard rock" right now. i just did!
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Jan 18, 2024 21:19
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https://web.archive.org/web/20040810064854/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/c/coltrane_john/live-at-the-village-vanguard.shtml
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Tard rock lol. It is pretty funny that the same publication acted like japandroids was much different than AWK. (Japandroids were actually good)
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who the gently caress reads gq by the way
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DeimosRising posted:i think this is sort of unfair. first off, those two reviews are by different people. two writers for the same publication are under no obligation to write to a party line, and in fact it's cool that pitchfork would publish both perspectives. That is generally a good rule, but Pitchfork literally does have a party line (the staff decides on a score) and then assigns a reviewer to write it.
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Henchman of Santa posted:That is generally a good rule, but Pitchfork literally does have a party line (the staff decides on a score) and then assigns a reviewer to write it. lmao i did not know that about their process, retracted
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i always thought it was the inverse: an editor writes a review and other editor(s) assign a score based on the content of the review
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It's been bad for a while but it's really funny how lately pretty much everything hovers around 7.5 The Quietus is good tho
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I personally havent read a review in awhile, but i'll give a spin to a best new music or a best new track if its not a top 40 artist
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Jan 18, 2024 22:42
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Lmao I forgot about Goop on ya Grinch.
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abraham linksys posted:i always thought it was the inverse: an editor writes a review and other editor(s) assign a score based on the content of the review no its a community thing thats how you get like mmlp getting a 9.5 but then the review is entirely negative
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abraham linksys posted:i always thought it was the inverse: an editor writes a review and other editor(s) assign a score based on the content of the review i remember reading at one point that the score was based on the avg of multiple editors input but the written review was just one person
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thathonkey posted:i remember reading at one point that the score was based on the avg of multiple editors input but the written review was just one person This is correct BUT it’s also not something that pitchfork publicized, this is something a previous staff member posted somewhere. But I doubt they would have a reason to lie about that
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Very annoying day at work. Thankful for the job, but one thing can really take it out of your sails. Shout out rap music. Hand claps never bummed me out.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:This is correct BUT it’s also not something that pitchfork publicized, this is something a previous staff member posted somewhere. But I doubt they would have a reason to lie about that that was also in the early days before they had more corporate influence and money
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Certified Clapper gang tag when?
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Certified Clapper gang tag when? i'll cosign this
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Vargatron posted:i'll cosign this
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All 6 of fbg duck’s killers were found guilty and get mandatory life sentences. They turned down a plea for 55 years so I’m sure the sentencing is gonna be wild. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...apphireappshare
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Certified Clapper gang tag when? CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
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Vargatron posted:Lmao I forgot about Goop on ya Grinch. An all timer imo
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Hot Diggity! posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20040810064854/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/c/coltrane_john/live-at-the-village-vanguard.shtml lol
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Hot Diggity! posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20040810064854/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/c/coltrane_john/live-at-the-village-vanguard.shtml I'd never seen this before and I was wondering why you posted a link via archive instead of their main site, since it seems to still have old reviews. But now I know why, lol
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That’s the founder of pitchfork too lol
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im glad theyre dead
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i miss when websites looked like that
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50 posts in here about Pitchfork dying and absolutely no mention of it in the indie rock thread lol.
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Yeah I don't wanna be the one to tell em
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lol gently caress no
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whos that broooown posted:50 posts in here about Pitchfork dying and absolutely no mention of it in the indie rock thread lol. To be fair pitchfork no longer covers indie rock so it makes sense. Now if stereogum or Brooklyn Vegan close shop then things will be really hosed
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yo gently caress this dude https://x.com/valentinavee/status/1748163056344109359?s=20
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Alan Smithee posted:yo gently caress this dude literally who is this
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