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JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

yo this Iranian 86 KG dude is serious

Also I think this is the first female ref I've seen

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Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

JHomer722 posted:

yo this Iranian 86 KG dude is serious

Also I think this is the first female ref I've seen

i like the lady-ref outfit and yea this mostafajouka dude is owning hard

edit: that dude owned, i aint even mad cuz of nationalism

Yuriy fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Apr 13, 2015

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
what is the gold star next to hossien's name despite it being 1-0??

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Varner needs to take a shot

Edit: gently caress yeah!!

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
My goodness :eyepop:

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
yo, i know you two are like wrassle-geniuses, what is that gold star next to hossien's name before his score

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Why isn't Tervel wrestling??

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
e: nm

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Yuriy posted:

yo, i know you two are like wrassle-geniuses, what is that gold star next to hossien's name before his score

He got called for passivity and didn't score in the necessary time, so Varner got a point awarded and won by criteria or whatever it's called. I think.

Edit: Yeah, it signals that a technical point was awarded against them for violation of the rules, in this case being passive.

JHomer722 fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 13, 2015

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
God drat it Zack. :sigh:

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Miching Mallecho posted:

God drat it Zack. :sigh:

For real. I'm still shocked they sat Tervel; I guess he was hurt?

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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Yuriy posted:

yo, i know you two are like wrassle-geniuses, what is that gold star next to hossien's name before his score

Haven't seen the match, but I guess its used to indicate the more passive wrestler during the mandatory scoring period.

In FS, after 2 minutes with no scoring or 2nd offense for passivity they restart and if no one scores in the next 30 seconds the more active wrestler gets a point. They have red/blue lights to indicate who the more passive wrestler is when they're in mandatory scoring period.

Either that or it's just to record cautions. If the match is a tie and highest scoring technique was the same for both wrestlers it comes down to least number of cautions for the winner.

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

When you reach the kind of level Burroughs is on, is there any economic incentive to transitioning into MMA? I know wrestling isn't Money City or anything, but I imagine when you're the best in the world at anything you're probably sitting on Money Mountain.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
I don't see Burroughs or Varner getting in to MMA. With their accomplishments they'll have top tier coaching jobs waiting for them the moment they retire from competition (I know I'd love to see Iowa State give a truckload of money to Burroughs especially) or a comfortable living doing something for USA Wrestling if they don't want to coach. Top college coaches are getting $200,000+ nowadays and both of them would be getting offers from schools in that tier.

I don't see the very top wrestlers from the US getting in to MMA for the same reason top Judoka from Japan don't. They can make just as much or more money elsewhere.

Thoguh fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Apr 13, 2015

Gregor Samsa
Sep 5, 2007
Nietzsche's Mustache
Being a wrestling coach also allows you to engage in a kind of sadism that most MMA fighters can only dream of.

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.

raingwc posted:

So im about three months in and I've injured myself, well maybe not myself, but im injured.

The closest thing I can say is that it feels like they describe a golfers elbow, I feel a small pain constantly in the muscle attached to the elbow. When I roll it hurts alot more, while I've only been doing drilling and technique and avoiding sparring for almost two weeks now, it still hasnt gotten better.

Does anyone here got any experience with this sort of thing? I've been told to take anti inflammatory pills for five days and rest alot, and see if it helps.

This happened to me about three months in as well. What helped me a little: taking ibuprofen and stretching before rolling, wearing an elbow sleeve while rolling, and icing it for at least 10 minutes after every class. The pain still persisted for months and months, though.

What made the pain almost disappear: I bought a TheraBand Flex Bar and did the exercises in this video (both ways he shows). Within two weeks of doing the exercises daily, it went from constant pain to only a dull sensation after class. I bought the green bar, but you might want to start out with the red or yellow, depending on your forearm strength (although since this is rehab work at this point, starting low weight is usually recommended anyway). I also bought a muscle roller that I use on my forearms and triceps while sitting at my desk.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I had massive tendonitis in my right elbow in 2012 and after getting a shot of some kind of badass steroid that made me hungry as hell, a FlexBar like that cured it over time. I need to find it, been getting some forearm soreness in the same arm and I'd rather not revisit that particular pain if I don't have to...

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

ICHIBAHN posted:

Alreet, looking for some advice. I do BJJ and recently I've been getting slight pains at the back of my ears and knuckle joints (not my thumb and forefinger though for some reason). Anyone had anything like this before? Any advice? Cheers.

no one answered you so i will: thats normal, if youre worried about your ears/cauliflower, get ear guards but unless it's like sharp consistent pain, slight pain and soreness is just bjj man

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
thanks man. it's funny you replied today as i was doing a lot of rolling today and I figured out the ear thing. It's pulling against gis. I'm obviously often getting caught in chokes (I'm new, i suck), so there's a lot of pulling head from dangerous places. So, that's that. Cheers mate.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

ICHIBAHN posted:

thanks man. it's funny you replied today as i was doing a lot of rolling today and I figured out the ear thing. It's pulling against gis. I'm obviously often getting caught in chokes (I'm new, i suck), so there's a lot of pulling head from dangerous places. So, that's that. Cheers mate.

might still wanna consider earguards anyway because after a few years of high school wrestling, i had to have one of my ears drained and it hurts a lot and is gross as gently caress

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
edit: probably the wrong thread

canoshiz fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Apr 13, 2015

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Yuriy posted:

might still wanna consider earguards anyway because after a few years of high school wrestling, i had to have one of my ears drained and it hurts a lot and is gross as gently caress

Yeah, i intend to. Lots of guys wear them at my place. I'll geta pair

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011
Try not to get one with hard plastic or your training partners will hate you when you start smash passing

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

ICHIBAHN posted:

thanks man. it's funny you replied today as i was doing a lot of rolling today and I figured out the ear thing. It's pulling against gis. I'm obviously often getting caught in chokes (I'm new, i suck), so there's a lot of pulling head from dangerous places. So, that's that. Cheers mate.

I noticed this a bit when I started training and my coach pulled me aside and said I was trying to muscle out of headlocks too much as opposed to actually using technique to get out of them. The solution he suggested was to just relax more and either sit in the headlock until opportunity presented itself, or tap if there was a choke on the way. I've only been at this for about a year so "relax more" and "slow down" are probably good pieces of advice for me.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005
Anyone know some decent places to get in some bjj in Sydney/Brisbane/cairns?

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

fatherdog posted:

Anyone know some decent places to get in some bjj in Sydney/Brisbane/cairns?

Integrated MMA is near Brisbane

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

fatherdog posted:

Anyone know some decent places to get in some bjj in Sydney/Brisbane/cairns?

can vouch for rob moffatt in fusion fight and fitness in cairns. i've trained there when in the area and he's a cool, knowledgeable dude who'd be pretty loving thrilled to have someone of your experience train there

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

fatherdog posted:

Anyone know some decent places to get in some bjj in Sydney/Brisbane/cairns?

Real Fitness on the northside (Jason Miller is the coach there)
Kelvin Grove BJJ - Eduardo Dias is a good instructor over at Kelvin Grove
Phoenix elite MMA in the city (John Walkin was my first coach)

Where in Brisbane you heading I can probably point you somewhere close that's easy to get to. Public transport is pretty poo poo.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Somebody asked about wrestling attendence a couple pages back. USA Wrestling put out a release yesterday with the numbers from this season.

code:
	School		Avg	Total	High	Rival
1	Iowa 		8,358	55,390	11,882	IowaSt
2	Penn St	  	7,747	54,221	15,967	Iowa
3	Minnesota	4,947	29,681	13,620	Iowa
4	Ohio St	  	4,387	26,321	6,558	PennSt
5	Okla St		3,002	21,103	4,691	PennSt
6	Rutgers		2,697	18,877	6,071	PennSt
7	Iowa St		2,369	14,216	2,929	N.Iowa
8	N. Iowa		1,946	9,729	2,100	VaTech
9	Pitt	 	1,751	12,256	7,103	PennSt
10	Cornell		1,566	9,394	3,274	Oklahoma 
11	LEHIGH		1,343	9,400	1,957	Cornell
12	Va Tech		1,266	8,315	2,833	OhioSt
13	Maryland	1,238	9,904	2,779	PennSt
14	Michigan	1,208	7,246	1,830	PS/OhSt
15	Edinboro	1,186	7,113	2,753	OhioSt
16	Nebraska	1,160	6,959	1,753	Purdue
17	Oregon St	1,016	5,078	1,289	ArizSt
18	Wyoming		1,010	5,047	1,447	Nebraska
19	Missouri	840	4,201	1,502	American
20	Old Dominion	805	4,500	1,111	Missouri

Ridleys Revenge
Mar 24, 2007

B...B..BUT IM SUCH A "NICE GUY"!

ps if you see me post in E/N tell me to continue therapy for my anger and entitlement issues and stop behaving like a textbook example of a whiny twat
I’ve been feeling super frustrated about BJJ, I don't feel very welcome but it’s the only place in the area with a competitive reputation so I dunno what to do. I guess I just want to get some stuff off my chest, sorry in advance for the huge rant but I just need an outlet. I go out of my way to be respectful at class so I just don't have anywhere else to talk about this stuff

- During warm ups at my first class, a bigger guy who was a regular there stood up in my closed guard, stacked me onto my neck and then jump-sprawled into a can opener that literally folded me in half and left me seriously injured.
- When I came back, I stood up in a blue belt instructor's guard but instead of opening they just kept climbing their legs to hang on for a couple minutes while I patiently defended until they had pulled my pants all the way down, and then when I left an opening by reaching down to catch the falling pants they fist-in-throat ezekial choked me and gloated about it.
- I had to put down a few hundred bucks to go to a tournament a couple states away with the rest of the team, but my coach (a purple belt and former college linebacker who busted a guy’s neck with a careless throw at the same tournament) didn’t even bother to have anyone cornering me after the first round. I still took second in the gi division, only losing to my sandbagging 25lb+ teammate who I didn't want to fight.
- I got DQ’d in the first round of the nogi division, the ref didn’t know the difference between 1leg x guard and reaping the knee (no one tapped, my opponent even supported me when I respectfully said afterwards that no knee reaping had occurred), but I had no one in my corner to back me up.
- After the tournament, one of the other students who had been visiting from NY came by to congratulate me, saying “You really proved yourself out there! You wouldn’t believe all the poo poo they talk about you, you really showed ‘em! They’re always saying poo poo about how they catch you with stuff in practice, can't talk now can they?” I've heard them talk poo poo about him too but I didn't say anything. He took first in his divisions in both gi and nogi.
- At the promotion ceremony the next day our black belt affiliate chose to keep me at white belt after promoting some other less-experienced people to blue, saying, “I hear you’re good, but you need to lay off the Eddie Bravo stuff” and when I looked confused my coach leaned in and corrected, “Marcelo Garcia stuff” and the (Alliance) affiliate looked surprised and said, “Oh, well that should be fine of course.” (I’d been training daily, sometimes 2x/day, with these guys, brown belt in Judo- not exactly a newbie)
- Offered to show some Judo stuff at the Sunday open mat that's usually pretty quiet, coach said, “Well I’d really like to make sure you can make that stuff work yourself before you teach it.” Now a less experienced (but bigger) former Judoka is teaching throws that day

Ridleys Revenge fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Apr 15, 2015

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Either you're blissfully unaware of being totally incompetent or that's a really lovely club.

Thoguh fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 15, 2015

Ridleys Revenge
Mar 24, 2007

B...B..BUT IM SUCH A "NICE GUY"!

ps if you see me post in E/N tell me to continue therapy for my anger and entitlement issues and stop behaving like a textbook example of a whiny twat
Can't it be both?

Opal
May 10, 2005

some by their splendor rival the colors of the painters, others the flame of burning sulphur or of fire quickened by oil.
Go somewhere else.

edit: That gym sounds almost comically evil though - it is possible that you are part of the problem, also.

Opal fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Apr 15, 2015

Dr. Miracle
Feb 13, 2008

born to shart

fatherdog posted:

Anyone know some decent places to get in some bjj in Sydney/Brisbane/cairns?

VT-1 in Sydney.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Ridleys Revenge posted:

Can't it be both?

Either way I'd go to a different club.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
If we're bitching. Most of the guys in my BJJ club won't do stand up with me but that's because they're big pansies who are afraid of getting thrown by a Judo guy. So I do sad, lonely uchikomi after practice with my belt and a post.

I tried explaining that I'm way less likely to hurt them in standup than anybody else in the club, but they aren't buying it. I don't worry about this being a me problem because I've never done standup with any of them since joining, they are basing it off their assumptions, not anything I've done. A couple guys hurt their knees doing standup recently (at practices I wasn't at) so that doesn't help.

DAS Super!
Jul 26, 2007
You should probably pay more attention to your log.
/
:backtowork:
Train somewhere else.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

DAS Super! posted:

Train somewhere else.

Its a good club and a good training environment. They're just pansies about standup.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
god id love to learn some judo. seems great fun!

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Odddzy
Oct 10, 2007
Once shot a man in Reno.

I dunno man, if people talked trash in my back I'd probably jump school. Make drat sure you aren't part of the reason why they don't like you to avoid it happening again in another school and that's all I think.

Also, don't worry about the belt promotion, all you should be focused on is getting better, the color of the belt shouldn't factor in.

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