|
I'd imagine there all kind of linked files with custom macros/formulas.
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 14:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 21:05 |
|
|
I also assume you don't have a webform to book entries directly? It would be a pain in the rear end compared to using a mass submission on an excel sheet, but it would be still possible.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 15:09
|
|
|
I got paid on the right day at the right time in the first time in 8 weeks. I don't know what to do with myself.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 16:22
|
|
|
The Aphasian posted:There's also gnumeric http://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnumeric_portable and Google drive. I believe google spreadsheets uses different macros/formulas than excel.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 17:47
|
|
|
My company is doing a little downsizing and one of the people who got fired is the receptionist. Who's been with the company for over 30 years. Whose duties included receiving visitors and deliveries, arranging drinks/food for any meetings, cleaning the coffee machines, keeping our break rooms stocked with coffee/tea/milk/sugar/fruit and probably doing a ton of other little things that contribute to a nice working environment. They don't seem to have thought about how these tasks will be handled from now on. One of the coffee machines has a sign that says it's not in use, because apparently she was the only one who knew how to do maintenance on it (it's a big machine that grinds beans and makes espresso and heats up milk etc). I get some documents by mail a few times per week; she was the one who'd bring them to my desk. I don't even know where mail goes now. Everyone is bummed about losing her. Also, one of my closest colleagues has her cubicle near the front desk. So now any visitors that show up just walk right up to her desk because they don't know where else to go and interrupt her work.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 18:33
|
|
|
Ouch. Downsizing exactly the wrong way.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 18:35
|
|
|
there's always someone in the office that is holding the whole thing together.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 18:36
|
|
|
jkk posted:My company is doing a little downsizing and one of the people who got fired is the receptionist. Who's been with the company for over 30 years. Whose duties included receiving visitors and deliveries, arranging drinks/food for any meetings, cleaning the coffee machines, keeping our break rooms stocked with coffee/tea/milk/sugar/fruit and probably doing a ton of other little things that contribute to a nice working environment. They don't seem to have thought about how these tasks will be handled from now on. One of the coffee machines has a sign that says it's not in use, because apparently she was the only one who knew how to do maintenance on it (it's a big machine that grinds beans and makes espresso and heats up milk etc). I get some documents by mail a few times per week; she was the one who'd bring them to my desk. I don't even know where mail goes now. Your colleague get's her workload, this once happened to me. In other insane and positive news our union contract finally got signed, here comes three years worth of backpay.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 19:36
|
|
|
sbaldrick posted:Your colleague get's her workload, this once happened to me. You are up on the wheel of fortune, dread whatever misfortune you are saving up for. I had the weirdest experience today and not sure where else to tell about this. So somewhere today, one of my on-site colleagues mentioned that a bigshot was visiting from the UK and in a meeting and I was supposed to smile and wave if he would happen upon our floor. Well, I was busy so never saw anyone but the local account manager who burrowed my thumbdrive "for a few minutes" and I doubt I will ever see that one again. Well, at the train station on the way home, I run into this same account manager who was talking to some guy and I walk up with my hand extended as an rear end in a top hat gesture to get my thumbdrive back. For some reason this was misunderstood to be a friendly handshake and hands were shook, he introduced me to the guy next to him who was on his way to the airport. Ah, we have the same train, let's travel together and mister account manager had to go back to the hotel to do some stuff. So the newly introduced guy and I start talking, he is apparently the bigshot that came in to woo the client into buying more stuff. So we are waiting at the platform, he asks me some smalltalk things and I do the same, he is with the company almost 15 years and I am a year and a half. So, he asks, how do you like it? me  : Would you like the real answer or the politically correct one?him  : The real answer of course.: Well, I am kinda done and fed up with [our company] and while not hating my job, I do not see a big future for myself. There is loads of management and very little leadership, everybody only cares about perverse KPI's that make them run around like crazy when one is not met, the way people lower on the pole are treated because of this is horrible for the sake of personal gain, the performance measuring system that pretends to be fair is just as bogus as any other system in that you get promoted only if you know what asses to kiss, nobody is measured on merits but on alien stuff that has nothing to do with doing a good job. With me getting allocated to band X, I need to wait years to get to band Y which matches what I do so it would not even be a promotion, just a correction. So I am, let's say, opening myself for other opportunities. I still come to work smiling and in the near future there will be a day where I leave smiling as well.: Yes, I recognize that about joblevels. Do you really want to leave or would a change within the company work?: I don't know, but I am certain open to discuss.: We are looking for subject matter experts who want to do pre-sales working with prospects across Europe. Is that something you can do?: I did that already at a previous job and yes, that would be a great change of pace.: Let me work some stuff out and shut up about it, I do not want your current management to get nervous that you leave.: Just beware, if you support me you should know that there might be some people who are not favorable to me in general.: Why is that?: I have a big mouth and say what I think, this not always goes over well: but employed in the right place, it can be very useful. We need people like that. tl,dr I badmouthed my company to an SVP and he offered me a position in his division.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 21:01
|
|
|
Keetron posted:tl,dr I badmouthed my company to an SVP and he offered me a position in his division. Or so it seems.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 21:29
|
|
|
Keetron posted:tl,dr I badmouthed my company to an SVP and he offered me a position in his division. Living the dream, my friend. I myself am grateful to be in a position that I can speak my mind without fear to my boss (the company owner) and be heard—and appreciated for it. Edit: I work in a small business—not corporate. I just read this thread for the schadenfreude.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 21:35
|
|
|
How bad is it if you don't leave a full 2 weeks notice? Like a 1 week notice? Or maybe even less?
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 22:18
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:How bad is it if you don't leave a full 2 weeks notice? Like a 1 week notice? Or maybe even less? If you don't care about going back to work there it doesn't matter at all. But have an honest discussion with your manager. I work for a conservative financial institution and have seen the hardest working employee in the department get overwhelmed and do a no-show quit, and be immediately blackballed by everyone, even though she carried many of those peoples weight for years. On the other hand, at the same company, I've seen an utterly useless woman who wasn't worth 30 minutes of productivity a day give 4 days notice and still receive "re-hirable" status with HR, simply because she took the time to speak to her manager. Personally, I've had to tell new jobs that I need to push back my start date to give my current employer sufficient notice (2 weeks), and they have always agreed, even if one company wasn't thrilled to do it. tl;dr: speak to your manager, you should be okay unless you leaving will throw the office into chaos.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 22:58
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:How bad is it if you don't leave a full 2 weeks notice? Like a 1 week notice? Or maybe even less? It's generally considered pretty unprofessional, assuming you're talking about an actual job and not some part-time minimum-wage retail/foodservice gig or something (it's still unprofessional there, but no one will really give a gently caress). It could definitely burn a bridge with your old company and lose you any favorable references they might have given you. Why are you considering leaving with such short notice? Don't quit early to start a new job; it gives your new employer a bad impression when they know you're employed, but you say you can start in less than two weeks. Any decent employer will understand that you have to give proper notice at your current job, since they will surely expect the same courtesy whenever you leave them. An employer that expects you to quit your current job without notice to come work for them probably isn't one you want to work for, for a variety of reasons. Unless you are being physically threatened at your current workplace or your life and/or health is in immediate danger because of your job, or there's some other unavoidable reason that you have to quit immediately (i.e. you have to move across the country to take care of a sick relative or something), just stick it out for your two weeks.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2014 23:08
|
|
|
I'm at a large pharmaceutical company. Here are my reasons for wanting to leave a 1 week notice instead of a 2. Let me know if I'm just being a big baby or if these are valid: 1. I recently started a new travel arrangement due to my relocation and I am now taking the company charter plane back and forth 3 times a week. My day starts at 5:50 when I wake up, get ready, get to the airport by 7:15, board the plane at 7:30, arrive at the other airport at 8:25, get to the office at 8:35-45 depending on flight delays, leave the office and get the airport by 5:00, board the plane at 5:15, arrive at the airport at 6:15, and get home by 6:35-45 depending on traffic. It's essentially a 13 hour day and I'm getting tired of it. The other days I'm working remotely from home. 2. My manager is awful as a manager (inconsiderate of employees' time (during work hours and off-hours) and super passive aggressive). I know she will load my rear end with every little thing she can find as soon as I tell her I'm out of here making me miserable. This isn't because she doesn't like me, but because she doesn't give a poo poo about anything else besides what she wants to get done, even if it's at the expense of other people's time/efforts. I worked 50-60 hours a week every week last year and my raise was extremely pathetic to a point where people who report to me are still making more. I'm really bitter about all this and I don't want to get hosed one last time. I also don't like her as a person because I've never met someone who is so disingenuous with how she treats her employees. She has 8 other direct reports and not one of them respect her because she treats everyone like they're just a number and only cares about herself.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 00:25
|
|
|
Just a quick heads up for you, Hand of the King: Every big pharma company is like that now. If you want to jump for work-life balance reasons, you need to be very picky with which job you take in the industry or go into something entirely different.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 00:49
|
|
|
Let her load poo poo on you. With you only 10 working days away from leaving you are free to not give a gently caress. I was highly valued and respected at my old job and made sure to do what I could to guarantee business continuity in my absence, but I still found time to do this with all my business cards over the last few days. edit- as I was the first of several to leave for better opportunities I started a trend of business card wallpapering upon leaving. 
Turnquiet fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 00:50
|
|
|
Yeah who cares what your boss piles on you in the last two weeks, you'll be too busy not giving a poo poo about half of it anyway.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:15
|
|
|
I understand, Sundae. My wife is on the same field but her boss doesn't do poo poo like send emails at 10 pm on Sundays and expect a response by the next morning. So, you just goofed off the whole time? I don't know if I can be given work and not finish it because I'm too busy loving around. Should I just get off my work ethics high horse?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:15
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:I'm at a large pharmaceutical company. Here are my reasons for wanting to leave a 1 week notice instead of a 2. Let me know if I'm just being a big baby or if these are valid: Is that really easier than just getting a hotel Monday-Thursday or something?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:16
|
|
|
Sundae posted:Just a quick heads up for you, Hand of the King: Every big pharma company is like that now. If you want to jump for work-life balance reasons, you need to be very picky with which job you take in the industry or go into something entirely different. Heed this poster, for they have the most cursed employment history of the entire lab chat thread. I am convinced from his/her stories that the greatest advantage working in pharma has over any other industry is that time accrued on the job can be banked against sentences in hell.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:23
|
|
|
Xandu posted:Is that really easier than just getting a hotel Monday-Thursday or something? They didn't have enough in the budget to put me in a hotel. Also, I'm not high level enough  The plane flies back and forth MWF regardless because there are always people flying between two locations. Anyway, isn't giving the two weeks notice and then not doing any work just as bad as giving only a week notice and doing the work?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:31
|
|
|
Ah, that makes sense. I was going to say, it's a hell of a lot more expensive to fly someone back and forth 3 times a week than to get them a hotel. I don't think it's the end of the world if you feel like only giving one weeks notice. It's not considered standard and your company will look poorly upon it probably, but they often do the same thing when you do give two weeks notice "Oh I can't believe you're quitting, we invested so much in you, you're really screwing us over at this critical period.."
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:45
|
|
|
Turnquiet posted:Let her load poo poo on you. With you only 10 working days away from leaving you are free to not give a gently caress. I was highly valued and respected at my old job and made sure to do what I could to guarantee business continuity in my absence, but I still found time to do this with all my business cards over the last few days. I'd love to do that, but contractors don't get business cards. I do get emails from one of my supervisors reminding me to lock up my desk at night, because the night's watch discovered one of my overheads was unlocked. Except it wasn't unlocked, the latch is messed up so you can actually open it up while it's locked, and I had already told my big boss about this, but apparently everyone's forgotten about it until now. Big boss now has me on the locksmith's list, so at least it'll get fixed. Hopefully before they can me at the end of the season.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 01:48
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:I'm at a large pharmaceutical company. Here are my reasons for wanting to leave a 1 week notice instead of a 2. Let me know if I'm just being a big baby or if these are valid: Well if you do the two week notice at least you get the satisfaction of knowing they will be wasting money shuffling you back and forth for two weeks.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 02:43
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:Anyway, isn't giving the two weeks notice and then not doing any work just as bad as giving only a week notice and doing the work? This isn't some all or nothing thing. Do a reasonable amount of work for two weeks. Quit answering emails at 10pm but suck it up and get on the commuter plane to hell a few more times.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 02:50
|
|
|
Someone in a different department at work was complaining of a boring repetitive task while they were visiting my area to get something. I told them they could automate the process by doing x in excel. A senior, who overheard, said that if I wanted them to do this newfangled business I would have to submit my "idea" for review - as if everyone would be doing me a favor by adopting my suggestion. Nobody mentioned it to me again. Needless to say I did not write poo poo. That department doesn't affect mine, so they can spend all day doing pointless repetitive bullshit. If someone was going to tell me something that would make my life easier, I'd run to them with pen and paper in hand.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 03:03
|
|
|
100 HOGS AGREE posted:Yeah who cares what your boss piles on you in the last two weeks, you'll be too busy not giving a poo poo about half of it anyway. My last full day is tomorrow, then I have a half day Friday that will be spent mostly in HR doing out processing. This week and last week have been the most relaxing weeks of my job because I simply do not give a poo poo about the long-term results of what I'm doing. I'm wrapping poo poo up and leaving detailed instructions for the poor schmucks who are picking up where I left off but I'm at the point where I can respond to requests to do stuff with "nope" and leave it at that.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 03:41
|
|
|
visceril posted:I also assume you don't have a webform to book entries directly? It would be a pain in the rear end compared to using a mass submission on an excel sheet, but it would be still possible. Clearly you have never had the pleasure of explaining computers to my company's auditors. It took them a decade to figure out that journal entry lines with the description "intercompany line automatically added by posting" are generated automatically by Oracle. Anything that doesn't involve a ream of paper covered in signatures and tick marks is a foreign concept.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 04:34
|
|
|
Ezekiel_980 posted:Well if you do the two week notice at least you get the satisfaction of knowing they will be wasting money shuffling you back and forth for two weeks. Nah, like I said, the plane flies back and forth for someone else, so they're not wasting any money with me if I use the plane. Defenestration posted:it is not. Dang it. Fine!
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 06:24
|
|
|
'Sup quittin' buddies. I gave notice on Monday and there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to tie up all the loose ends. I am slowly learning not to care (in a good way).
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 07:23
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:Nah, like I said, the plane flies back and forth for someone else, so they're not wasting any money with me if I use the plane. This is pretty funny to me as a non US. Surely you must realise that something is seriously wrong in the Pharma industry when a company owns a private jet to use as a literal taxi for its employees?! Is this normal over there?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 07:59
|
|
|
The Berzerker posted:Or so it seems. Or he gets me fired, this is fine as well. I can find another job and the severance package will give me a few weeks off from work. edit: today we had a short email conversation and are now LinkedInned, so I guess he was serious. Keetron fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Jun 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 08:42
|
|
|
Today sucked 3 whole lemons. Wake up with a nosebleed so I'm late to work (having to wash my sheets so they don't stain), find out that I need to call our contact at the contractor (I work in a small office of subcontractors for drafting). Turns out that he's sure that he sent us a file with penetrations through the middle of this job so he doesn't understand why I could've possibly drawn it any other way. So I spend my first half of the day fixing that, only to be called in the middle of lunch and find out that information that my co-worker got from him at the start of the job about how we're insulating the duct was 90% wrong so 90% of the ductwork has to be redrawn. Then, not half a loving hour later, I get another call - we weren't given a drawing for the previous job from another building service (We were given drawings 01-03 which were on other levels, not 04 which was the only relevant one) and now I have to redraw something I thought I'd finished 2 months ago. I hate being unproductive. How can a day when you wake up bloodstained end up getting worse as it goes along?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 09:45
|
|
|
Dravs posted:This is pretty funny to me as a non US. Surely you must realise that something is seriously wrong in the Pharma industry when a company owns a private jet to use as a literal taxi for its employees?! Is this normal over there? At our HQ not in the US we have a fleet of helicopters that any employee can use to shuttle between company locations. I always thought the US was the one lacking that.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 14:43
|
|
|
Dravs posted:This is pretty funny to me as a non US. Surely you must realise that something is seriously wrong in the Pharma industry when a company owns a private jet to use as a literal taxi for its employees?! Is this normal over there? It used to be very normal, but most pharma companies are dropping corporate jets for regular employees and reserving them for exec levels only. Nowadays, any travel I do (seemingly regardless of how far I'm traveling) is either coach airfare or my own car, on my own time. A trip to, let's say, Hyderabad is treated as part of my commute because "occasional travel" is in my job description. They will pay airfare costs, of course, but I'm expected to travel on my own time with no other recompense / comp time. That's the norm for at least three big pharmas that I know of now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 15:28
|
|
|
Hand of the King posted:Anyway, isn't giving the two weeks notice and then not doing any work just as bad as giving only a week notice and doing the work? In reality yes, in terms of "optics" no, but you don't just stop doing all work, you just become reasonable and set limits for yourself during your last two weeks. (for example: "I will still go to work, but I will not answer emails after X o'clock, I will not work on the last few weeks I am employed by this company, etc.") I mean, your reasoning is basically "I hate it there and don't want to give them sufficient notice" which obviously doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You can still do whatever you want, but yes it will look worse than just half assing it for a couple weeks.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 17:08
|
|
|
My coworkers are so professional. So I waltzed into a lab to discover a PM and a lab tech in a shouting match because the tech can't sample a material without the specs that the PM hadn't provided yet. While they were screaming at each other a customer tour complete with section heads and directors walked into the lab, they of course kept screaming at each other oblivious to the very important customer tour.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 17:24
|
|
|
dennyk posted:It's generally considered pretty unprofessional, assuming you're talking about an actual job and not some part-time minimum-wage retail/foodservice gig or something (it's still unprofessional there, but no one will really give a gently caress). It could definitely burn a bridge with your old company and lose you any favorable references they might have given you. On the other hand, when I gave an hour's notice to the last place I worked at, I was given handshakes and great reviews from folks all the way up to vice presidents. If you work at a toxic enough place, folks tend to understand why you're leaving and won't hold it against you as some sort of mark against your character or honor or whatever. Besides, I kept up the company tradition of bringing in cake on my birthday and last day. That was the best cake ever.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 18:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 21:05 |
|
|
At my last place, I took everyone out to happy hour on my second-to-last day and paid for the first round. They still love me a year later and still chat over e-mail all the time. (I had nothing against my actual department, but rather against the environment / corporate style in general.) It's worth it to leave graciously for the other people in your department, rather than management. You vanishing into the void leaves a bad taste with your former co-workers, which can be more important than what management thinks.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2014 18:20
|
|