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Well, there's a reason Nazis love that whole blood and soil chant. Except when it's not old stock Canadian blood in the soil.
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PT6A posted:Christ, first you people want farmers to not abuse their immediate family members for labour, and now you also want them to not abuse foreigners??? What do you have against the poor hardworking farmers??? It's extremely difficult to exploit labour this thoroughly, not to mention the emotional distress of one of the children getting killed by farm machinery every now and again. Remember when applying labour safety standards was going to be the death of the Albertan farm? Good times. I wonder what Hall_2005 is up to these days?
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So the ANDP thinks they can balance the Alberta Provincial budget by 2024, here's the kicker http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-budget-2018-2019-1.4588050 quote:The plan rests on the assumption the proposed Trans Mountain pipeline expansion from Edmonton to Burnaby -- currently facing legal challenges from First Nations and environmental groups plus opposition from B.C.'s NDP government -- will get built.
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infernal machines posted:Remember when applying labour safety standards was going to be the death of the Albertan farm? Yes, that was indeed the reference I was making.
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DariusLikewise posted:So the ANDP thinks they can balance the Alberta Provincial budget by 2024, here's the kicker All the monetary projections I've ever seen on the trans mountain expansion are super optimistic at best. This feels like a political play to blame outside actors for the fact that they don't balance the budget. Realistically, the issue is mostly that Alberta's tax structure is still silly and doesn't bring in enough income.
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Old white people are mad. Really, really mad.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:29
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well, that is one way to improve conservative turnout.
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Goddamn, Pallister was mad as hell this morning on CJOB here.  Getting loving phased by 2 morons on morning radio.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:43
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Mad enough to not vote for free drugs? https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/03/20/wynne-to-expand-free-pharmacare-program-to-seniors.html I'm going to put a Vote Skynet sign on my lawn for this one I think
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Mar 23, 2018 14:44
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I'm convinced that Jerry Agar is a satire character, like Colbert was. At least, that's what I tell myself whenever I hear something he says. gently caress that guy.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:48
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The Zombie Guy posted:I'm convinced that Jerry Agar is a satire character, like Colbert was. He's a cartoon, even if he comes by it earnestly. Postess with the Mostest posted:Mad enough to not vote for free drugs? https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/03/20/wynne-to-expand-free-pharmacare-program-to-seniors.html You could vote NDP again, who would know?
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some idiot posted:First, it is ageist. To suggest that old and young people may not have the same party and policies in mind on election day is presumptuous at best. quote:Perhaps minorities are just as concerned about hydro rates and the disappearance of manufacturing jobs in Ontario as old white people. quote:Perhaps Wynne could make up for her insult by creating a “safe space” for older white people who were “triggered” by her comments.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:55
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Jimbozig posted:Wait, is this guy trolling? Yes? I mean he writes OpEds for the Sun so 100% yes, but probably not quite in the way he thinks he is.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:01
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Jimbozig posted:Wait, is this guy trolling? He's an old, he doesn't really know what the world is like any more.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:05
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Agar also hosts a talk radio show in Toronto. I don't listen to it much, but I heard him really get into it with Patrick Brown's PR lady once after he promised to do an in-studio interview with him and then bailed 2 minutes to air time. He wasn't bad then, strong questions and such, but that Sun piece is pretty standard fare.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:09
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infernal machines posted:You could vote NDP again, who would know? Maybe. Does ONDP just not update their website often or do they only have candidates in 45 out of 107 ridings nominated so far? https://www.ontariondp.ca/candidates Green party has 42, https://gpo.ca/find-candidate/
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Mar 23, 2018 15:13
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Arivia posted:He's an old, he doesn't really know what the world is like any more. Hey Arivia, would you say you are just as concerned about hydro rates as an old white dude? I can't stop laughing at how dumb this guy is. Like, yes, selling off hydro was dumb as gently caress, but it's not like the Conservatives wouldn't have done the same, so does he want everyone to vote NDP? If an extra $20/month on your hydro bill is going to break your budget, the Conservatives are the last party you should consider voting for. Edit: my phone tried to autocorrect your name to Alicia.
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Jimbozig posted:Hey Arivia, would you say you are just as concerned about hydro rates as an old white dude? Maybe we would be able to bring down hydro rates if our politicians weren't constantly thinking about anal sex.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:15
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Vintersorg posted:Goddamn, Pallister was mad as hell this morning on CJOB here. I noticed that the PC Social Media team posted attack ads on Facebook and Twitter shortly after Wab went after Pallister for the Hydro board resignations a couple days ago. I think they are all reeling pretty hard especially after the reception of the budget was lukewarm at best The Conservatives forced an all night vote-a-thon in Parliament as protest that Trudeau isn't talking about what was done behind closed doors about Atwall. I'm really looking forward to Andrew Scheer just saying the words "Atwal Affair" like how Trump would whisper "Benghazi" every once and awhile when debating. https://twitter.com/kady/status/977161473817378817 https://twitter.com/kady/status/977161665841004544 https://twitter.com/kady/status/977161980996808707
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Mar 23, 2018 15:16
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Maybe. Does ONDP just not update their website often or do they only have candidates in 45 out of 107 ridings nominated so far? They’re bad at elections.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:20
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Jimbozig posted:Hey Arivia, would you say you are just as concerned about hydro rates as an old white dude? Never mind Conservatives would have done the same thing, they started the whole process by opening the energy market to competition under ( you guessed it ) Premier Mike Harris. In fact, I would argue that ending Ontario Hydros monopoly in 1995 (2002 really before the market really opened) made the privatization inevitable.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:21
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Democracy: the system by which the people get the government they deserve.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Maybe. Does ONDP just not update their website often or do they only have candidates in 45 out of 107 ridings nominated so far? I stand corrected, maybe you can't vote NDP. Comedy option, run as the NDP candidate in your riding. Two terms and you get a sweet-rear end pension.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:22
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PT6A posted:Democracy: the system by which the people get the government they deserve. I can't argue with this anymore. The weird part is that I've become somewhat well to do since the last Conservative government. So while I still argue for progressive policies and vote NDP, I'm voting somewhat against my own interest. Meanwhile, conservative governments are elected largely by the poor and working classes who then immediately turn around and screw them over with austerity policies. I'll defend progressive policies to anyone, but I'm done with feeling emotionally affected by the plight of classes who refuse to vote in their own interests.
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quote:Perhaps Wynne could make up for her insult by creating a “safe space” for older white people who were “triggered” by her comments. You heard them folks, start rounding up the fuckers
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infernal machines posted:I stand corrected, maybe you can't vote NDP. Being associated with my post history is probably the only thing that could make the ondp less credible. Reince Penis posted:I'm done with feeling emotionally affected by the plight of classes who refuse to vote in their own interests. How dare poor people not vote themselves homeless in order to help Ontario be a role model towards stopping the planet's temperature rising by 1%.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:
You're approaching @realdonaldtrump levels of incoherence here dude
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Be honest though, no party actually has rural interests in mind. The liberals ignore them and the cons promise rurals the world before also ignoring them.
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From the Globe: Doug Ford will need to cut about $25 Billion of government spending during his term, thanks to taking the axe to the People's Guarantee Being innumerate, this does not concern him.
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infernal machines posted:From the Globe: Doug Ford will need to cut about $25 Billion of government spending during his term, thanks to taking the axe to the People's Guarantee You say that as if this wasn't his goal all along.
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Reince Penis posted:You're approaching @realdonaldtrump levels of incoherence here dude Poor people vote in their own short term interest. Poor rurals vote conservative because they're on the edge financially and can't afford to retrofit energy efficient devices and their bills shot from $100 to $400 in 6 years, they don't care that it's in the name of fighting emissions which will make a big difference by 2050 when they can't afford the bill today. Rationalizing why you have zero empathy for an entire class of people because they're too dumb to vote in their own long term self interest seems kind of douchey, like being the i told you so guy when a smoker gets lung cancer.
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The right: fucks over poor people, rurals, and basically everyone but moneyed interests while paying lip service to rurals, the elderly, and poors, using language they can identify with The left: fucks over poor people, rurals, and basically everyone but moneyed interests while paying lip service to urbans, young adults, and poors, but using academic language they often don't understand And yet you get mad when people 'vote against their best interests'
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EvilJoven posted:The right: fucks over poor people, rurals, and basically everyone but moneyed interests while paying lip service to rurals, the elderly, and poors, using language they can identify with The capital-L Liberals are pretty far from "the left"
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EvilJoven posted:using academic language they often don't understand Wrong; they clearly patronize people by assuming they're too stupid to understand anything, like the minister for democracy or whatever the gently caress her title was, displaying the mean-squared error formula like it's some kind of loving voodoo. Of the many flaws with the Liberals, overestimating the intelligence of their constituents isn't one of them.
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vyelkin posted:The capital-L Liberals are pretty far from "the left" Yeah I'm not sure what left you're talking about Joven the Liberals are pretty clearly a centre-right party.
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vyelkin posted:The capital-L Liberals are pretty far from "the left" Until the NDP pulls their heads out of their asses and stops campaigning from the middle, they don't even show up on the radar, at least at the federal level. At the provincial level they seem to be afflicted by a serious case of 'act like giant pieces of poo poo just like all the other parties' and giving up what ground they've gained, what with what's been happening in regards to the NDP in BC refusing to do anything to really disrupt the real estate calamity, the NDP in Alberta shilling loving oil, the NDP in Manitoba just, well, kinda floundering a bit and the NDP everywhere else also not being on the radar.
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I can't speak for Manituber, but the ONDP has a pretty compelling, if expensive, platform this time out. What they don't have are enough candidates.Leofish posted:You say that as if this wasn't his goal all along. When The Globe starts nervously tugging their collar and pointing out that your plan will basically level the province, you know you're on to something.
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Politics is about compromise. Purity tests are the death of the left.
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Reince Penis posted:Politics is about compromise. Purity tests are the death of the left. What's happened in the States over the last 6-8 years has really shaken my opinion of that first point. The second still stands though.
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Reince Penis posted:Politics is about compromise. Purity tests are the death of the left. Pretty much. It's basically impossible for a ton of people I know to identify as a member of the left these days because not subscribing to the most leftist woke bae position on one loving thing and you get labelled a racist sexist everythingophobic turbo hitler. People who should be working together are eaver increasingly at each others throats. Just like what happens basically daily in this very thread.
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