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Razorwired posted:It would probably still be about effort and qualifications. James Cameron just went and made up an ecosystem for Avatar. While the movie had its criticisms I didn't hear many "He just made up that helicopter bug? gently caress this movie!" Klingon was created in 1979 and expanded in 82 by a linguist
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as gently caress it's a lot more respectable than using pig-Latin for your magical language or using vaguely Japanese sounding words for when you want someone to sound like an alien.
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And it was a cool little side project until nerds started writing wedding vows in it 
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Razorwired posted:And it was a cool little side project until nerds started writing wedding vows in it And playing baseball with it.
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Languages are still invented for fiction all the time. Did you think the aliens in Avatar were speaking Spanish?
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Everything for fiction is invented all the time. It doesn't exactly make the OT equal to a Uwe Boll movie.
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Something that's come up in the TOR thread in Games is lightsaber colours, particullarly whether Sith characters will be 'allowed' to use purple blades, or will be restricted to red. The question that comes from this is why can't the Sith use blue or green blades, and why can't Jedi use red? I know why each tend not to, but are there any concrete reasons beyond the artistic preferences of the George? VV drat good point! VV Bene Elim fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jun 14, 2011 |
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Actually, why is it that the more unified Jedi Order who subscribe to a selfless philosophy and general interchangeability use a variety of saber colors, but the rugged individualists and utterly selfish assholes of the Sith use a standardized color?
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Red is an angry colour. I don't think it extends to much more than that as far as the 'actual' answer goes. In universe I don't know. Yellow, green and blue are traditional colours of jedi sentinels, consulars and guardians respectively (I think), so I guess red might be the same for Sith in general. I'm going to say tradition as the main reason. The Sith, despite being philosophically very selfish or whatever, are still strictly trained as Sith (going by what you see in kotor). Still, lighsaber colours are easily changeable, so I'm not sure why it's supposed to be a universal thing among all Jedi/Sith.
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Red would not have looked fashionable with Maul's tattoos and I don't want to imagine what Maul would look like with a green or blue blade. Though he'd probably still look better than Darth LightsaberKnees.
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Red and black look eeeeeeeeevil. Pretty much the same reason their new sithnames are eeeeevil words minus/plus a syllable.
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Mister Roboto posted:Red and black look eeeeeeeeevil. Wait, are there black lightsabers? How does that work?
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Suenteus Po posted:Wait, are there black lightsabers? How does that work? Yes. Because they look neat to some people.
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Suenteus Po posted:Wait, are there black lightsabers? How does that work? Force Unleashed is the first I saw them. I heard someone in the EU has a technicolor blade or some poo poo.
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Wasn't there an in-universe explanation that sith blades are red because they tend to use a special kind of crystal found on one of the sith worlds or something that is slightly more powerful than a standard lightsaber crystal?
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Fox of Stone posted:Red would not have looked fashionable with Maul's tattoos and I don't want to imagine what Maul would look like with a green or blue blade. It's true. Tattoos just aren't me. 
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LLJKSiLk posted:Wasn't there an in-universe explanation that sith blades are red because they tend to use a special kind of crystal found on one of the sith worlds or something that is slightly more powerful than a standard lightsaber crystal? I thought the red blades were the result of using artificial crystals or something.
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Ninja_Orca posted:I thought the red blades were the result of using artificial crystals or something. This. There was nothing really "Sith" about red blades. They were just synthetic crystals and at one time were mass produced. A couple of the books did go into the fact that for some reason the fake crystals were more unstable so some how could focus the dark side.
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The funny part is we know that Wookiepedia has the answer, but none of us have gone there yet. Maybe we're just afraid about reading the EU's next lightsaber wielding droid or a lightpenis.
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Pope Mobile posted:The funny part is we know that Wookiepedia has the answer, but none of us have gone there yet. Maybe we're just afraid about reading the EU's next lightsaber wielding droid or a lightpenis. Noone is afraid. We all know that the moment a lightpenis comes out we are all going to buy one for "research" purposes.
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Pope Mobile posted:lightpenis. Vwuummmmmmmmm.
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I guess we are both right:Wookipedia Penis Sabers posted:While the Jedi used natural crystals, the Sith often used red-hued synthetic crystals. Sith-made synthetic crystals create a slightly more powerful blade when energized by the dark side of the Force, occasionally demonstrating the ability to "break" Jedi lightsaber blades, disrupting the energy circuit and shorting out the weapon. However, this rarely happened, and as synthetic crystals demonstrated a slightly lower amount of maneuverability, this advantage was very slim. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber_crystal
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LLJKSiLk posted:I guess we are both right: What's to stop some young Apprentice picking up a red gem and using it? ('bonding' with it or some crap) Would his Master force him to get rid of it? And why would Dooku want a blade that was apparently 'less maneuverable'? Surely a fraction extra power over blade speed wouldn't fit his style. I suppose the overall question is 'why does every EU/game artist and writer insist on giving Sith red lightsabers for no real reason (other than Vader having one?)' And the answer is Star Wars.
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I was going to rant about how little sense it makes to say that one blade composed of light is more/less powerful or maneuverable than another but :starwars:. We need a :starwars: icon.
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Pretty much the same reason why every Sith lord MUST have the Really though it's because EU writers love taking character details that make people unique and cool and using them on every new character they write in the hope that it will make THEIR character cool by osmosis. See Corellian bloodstripes, the Emperor's force lightning, etc etc. Also nerds love establishing canon rules, and character details are fantastic for that.
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Wait what season is that from? I don't recognize the episode.
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It's referred to as the "Darksaber" and according to wookieepedia has shown up three times. Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "The Mandalore Plot" (First appearance) Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Voyage of Temptation" (Appears in flashback(s)) Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Duchess of Mandalore" (Appears in flashback(s)) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darksaber_%28lightsaber%29
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It's supposed to be some kind of relic that the Mandalorians stole way back when, and now that dude there is using it because Star Wars.
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Pope Mobile posted:I was going to rant about how little sense it makes to say that one blade composed of light is more/less powerful or maneuverable than another but :starwars:. I made this a while back, I call it :jorgesay: but it never caught on.
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Is it different to a lightsaber in anything but name? Edit: Nevermind, missed the wookieepedia link. I take it that the black lightsaber you can unlock in TFU is just for laughs then, because the article makes a big deal about it being a unique colour. RedTeam fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jun 14, 2011 |
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:starwars: should be something fun and iconic, like a  Death Star exploding.:eu: should be something utterly ridiculous. What would it be? A Mando with thirty lightsabers attached? A bug orgy?
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Derek Dominoe posted::eu: should be something utterly ridiculous. What would it be? A Mando with thirty lightsabers attached? A bug orgy? If Lightsaber-Knees could be made into a suitable size, then it is only fitting he should be :eu: .
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Tensokuu posted:It's referred to as the "Darksaber" and according to wookieepedia has shown up three times. Oh that's right. I recognized the Mandalorian, but not the blade. I remember now.
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quote:Though Vizsla's skill with the Darksaber was such that he could fight evenly with Kenobi for a time, the ancient blade could not defend Vizsla from the Jedi Master's Force powers.  "See cuz he's a Mandalorian and and Mandalorians are super tough and they are super good at fighting and have cool armor and jet packs and can use lightsabers and are as good as Jedi with them."God dammit. The entire point of a lightsaber is that the reflexes and coordination required for it are only possessed by trained force users. I'm all for having cool non-Jedi characters but this is just lazy, hack writing.
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Apparently it was originally just supposed to be a sword. As far as P-canon goes, I'm pretty much okay with painting a swordblade back over it mentally and declaring it to be made of phrick, the material that lets swords not get chopped in two in the Knights of the Old Republic games. Heck, just looking at the blade makes it clear that that's what was intended; the shape is nothing like the perfect cylinder of every other lightsaber we see.
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Pope Mobile posted:I was going to rant about how little sense it makes to say that one blade composed of light is more/less powerful or maneuverable than another but :starwars:. ZeeToo posted:Apparently it was originally just supposed to be a sword.
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Hazo posted:It used to exist as a crying wookiee in front of a Rebel flag but it's been lost to the ages. Well, maybe someone can make a replacement using  as the starting point.Or maybe this time it can be two MANDALORIANS in battlekilts killing a Jedi, high-fiving each other, then having gay sex.
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Darth Freddy posted:This. There was nothing really "Sith" about red blades. They were just synthetic crystals and at one time were mass produced. A couple of the books did go into the fact that for some reason the fake crystals were more unstable so some how could focus the dark side. This. I think there was also an EU Jedi that was running around with a natural red crystal in his saber. He caught poo poo for it all the time. Jedi just focus on their lightsabers as their one worldly possession and it's supposed to be a huge deal to them. So they go on pilgrimages to find a crystal that speaks to them or some other hippie nonsense. Sith seem to see them as just another tool and so theirs have mass produced parts. Of course this isn't counting Episode 2 where Anakin and Obi Wan go through like 8 of them throughout the course of one movie.
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I liked this.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I liked this. I did not see what was so funny about that until he turned on the flashlight. That's hilarious. Edit: Has anyone mentioned Rick McCallum's news on the live action series? NeonTurtle fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 15, 2011 |
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