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So, a random pubbie in a game earlier discovered a hilarious strategy by accident. On Lijang Tower, on the garden map, there is this wall near the point  The Zarya on our team shot an ult at this wall, trying to catch a Genji running around, when suddenly 4 people on the other team died out of nowhere. Turns out if you land a Zarya ult there, it will pull anyone running across the bridge on the other towards it, and into the pit. It's a shame I didn't save the Highlight.
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Help Im Alive posted:Is cowboys using flashbangs even a thing He's a robot cowboy
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May 31, 2016 22:31
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GreyPowerVan posted:He's right though. Hanzo is an archer He's more artillery since you don't need good aim with him to get kills. 
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May 31, 2016 22:31
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I agree that everybody should read more books, and think deeply about the things in those books instead of video games.
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May 31, 2016 22:33
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MacheteZombie posted:He's more artillery since you don't need good aim with him to get kills. Ryuu ga waga teki go gently caress yourself! 
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May 31, 2016 22:34
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Help Im Alive posted:Is cowboys using flashbangs even a thing Its a Russian thing.
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May 31, 2016 22:34
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Lady Naga posted:The chat will still be there if you replay the highlight. I did not know that! Also thank you thread for explaining how I accidentally made my UI disappear last night. My favorite part of playing Medic in TF2 was using the crossbow to pick off annoying enemies. I'm glad Mercy's pistol can hold its own -- like when I killed the enemy Mercy twice.  She's no combat medic -- which is a good thing, probably -- but she can definitely contribute.
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May 31, 2016 22:35
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still think the only change d.va needs is to be able to shoot while her shield is up. that'd give her a huge up on her ability to bully people face to face and/or be annoying as gently caress
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May 31, 2016 22:35
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Help Im Alive posted:Is cowboys using flashbangs even a thing No and neither are modern Cowboys. I prefer to think of Mcree as a bad cosplayer who wishes he could be an old west shooting star. Its High No- *gets head blowns*
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May 31, 2016 22:37
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quote:There was a time, when she was first implemented, where she had more damage than she does now. The way that played out is that she would fly into someone's face, destroy them, and fly away. There was little that person could do because her mobility. So that's a bad thing but the idea of a "tank" dying if they're fighting multiple targets isn't? In one post he's saying D.VA is supposed to be a fat version of Genji, maneuvering around harassing single targets and in the next one he's saying it's a terrible thing if she manages to do that? The gently caress Does someone have a youtube or something of someone playing the way he's talking about?
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exquisite tea posted:I agree that everybody should read more books, and think deeply about the things in those books instead of video games. I am reading The Condition of Postmodernism right now, it is v. good. Internet Kraken posted:No and neither are modern Cowboys. I prefer to think of Mcree as a bad cosplayer who wishes he could be an old west shooting star. Intel&Sebastian posted:Does someone have a youtube or something of someone playing the way he's talking about?
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May 31, 2016 22:37
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They need to decide what they want Mccree and D.va to be before they start tossing numbers around. It sounds like they have a vision for Mccree - Kills squishies, is somewhat versatile otherwise - but they seem at a complete loss for making D.va both fun to fight as/against and also useful.
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May 31, 2016 22:41
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Help Im Alive posted:Is cowboys using flashbangs even a thing It is dynamite. I like to think it draws from Duck, You Sucker!  what up
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May 31, 2016 22:41
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Munsun posted:It is dynamite. No it is not. Countblanc posted:They need to decide what they want Mccree and D.va to be before they start tossing numbers around. It sounds like they have a vision for Mccree - Kills squishies, is somewhat versatile otherwise - but they seem at a complete loss for making D.va both fun to fight as/against and also useful. Just Make D.va Great Again.
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May 31, 2016 22:42
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Szcwczuk posted:More hackers getting banned and bitching about it, this time the moron bought the game 3 times and got banned on all of them instantly. Artificial aiming? I gotta know where to go read to see the shitlers complaining
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May 31, 2016 22:43
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What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip?
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May 31, 2016 22:43
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MacheteZombie posted:What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip? Increased spread maybe?
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May 31, 2016 22:44
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Papercut posted:FYI you only get 200 credits for a duplicate legendary skin. Should be 1000
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MacheteZombie posted:What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip? I would say have it nnot shoot them all with almost perfect accuracy would be a good start, but with the tanks in this game being so large comparatively I don't know how much this would matter
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May 31, 2016 22:45
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Lady Naga posted:Increased spread maybe? Hmm, that might work, but if McCree is at point blank range would it make a big enough difference on tanks since they tend to be huge bastards?
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May 31, 2016 22:46
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MacheteZombie posted:What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip? Lower damage per bullet and a cooldown to prevent it from fragging tanks while still being useful for killing flankers quickly during the duration of Flashbang.
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May 31, 2016 22:46
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Possible Fan changes: - Make it have a cooldown beyond reloading. - Reduce the damage of each bullet. Zen's M2 does less damage per orb than his M1 does even though they're presumably the same orbs being fired, so it's not like there isn't precedent for this. - Make it fire fewer shots (this one seems weird). - Increase the spread even more (please god don't do this)
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May 31, 2016 22:46
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Lady Naga posted:Increased spread maybe? Slower shots per second, i'd wager. Or longer roll cooldown. Or all 3.
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MacheteZombie posted:What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip? They could make the fan do significantly less damage to armor. It would indirectly buff Torbjorn as well.
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MacheteZombie posted:What would the fix for McCree's FAN be? Just 3 shots instead of the whole clip? slowing down fan's firing speed (it's triple his regular firing speed right now) make flashbang into a skillshot with little or no aoe add a cooldown to fan change its firing pattern so that he sweeps the gun left to right in a very large cone, instead of firing forward with huge spread any/all of those could go with un-doing the fan reload speed nerf
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May 31, 2016 22:47
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Countblanc posted:- Reduce the damage of each bullet. Zen's M2 does less damage per orb than his M1 does even though they're presumably the same orbs being fired, so it's not like there isn't precedent for this. This one sounds the best so far. Didn't realize there was a precedent already.
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May 31, 2016 22:47
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Minrad posted:slowing down fan's firing speed (it's triple his regular firing speed right now) The article stated the devs intend to change FAN only as the flash works "as intended". Man I missed that Blizz phrase.
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May 31, 2016 22:48
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Lady Naga posted:No it is not. are you telling me you never seen dynamite from the future?
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May 31, 2016 22:48
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Kashuno posted:I would say have it nnot shoot them all with almost perfect accuracy would be a good start, but with the tanks in this game being so large comparatively I don't know how much this would matter Yeah this is part of the reason I don't want increased spread as the solution. They recognize that the big issue is how quickly he burns down big targets which isn't really what they want his niche to be, and tanks and their barriers are often so big that it wouldn't really address that. It'd also mean some times you'd want to fan to get kills on your intended targets you'd just completely wiff it for reasonable ranges. More RNG isn't a particularly great balancing mechanism in an FPS I feel.
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Minrad posted:make flashbang into a skillshot with little or no aoe This feels like it goes against the stated aim of countering zippy assholes.
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May 31, 2016 22:48
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MacheteZombie posted:He's more artillery since you don't need good aim with him to get kills. My aim is poo poo and I do a hell of a lot better as Widow than Hanzo. Just click bodies for 150 damage every second and get gold for eliminations and damage without landing a single headshot.
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May 31, 2016 22:49
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Countblanc posted:- Make it have a cooldown beyond reloading. It already does, it's like .4 seconds or smth Munsun posted:are you telling me you never seen dynamite from the future? They call it a flashbang in the tooltip and the model is of a flashbang hombre.
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I got some high praise indeed: (I'm Croaker)
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:My aim is poo poo and I do a hell of a lot better as Widow than Hanzo. Yeah but you actually have to aim at their body. Hanzo can aim 10 feet over the targets head and get a headshot, ala tf2 Huntsman. (It's not actually a huge deal because he's a decently balanced class. I just like the hitbox joke)
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Blizzard's approach to balance is usually to make a single, slight and uniform change that is not too specific. So however they adjust McCree it'll be done with that in mind.
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May 31, 2016 22:51
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there is something beautiful about arcing torb's LMB and headshotting people who do not have LOS on you
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May 31, 2016 22:52
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mormonpartyboat posted:there is something beautiful about arcing torb's LMB and headshotting people who do not have LOS on you It does huge damage, too. I think it's 150 damage, which means it can oneshot Zennyatta and Tracer. And yes for some reason I'm better at headshotting with Torb or Zenyatta than with widowmaker. Not quite sure how that works.
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May 31, 2016 22:54
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mormonpartyboat posted:there is something beautiful about arcing torb's LMB and headshotting people who do not have LOS on you Oh man does it ever feel good. Took out a Hanzo and a flanking Soldier 76 with it.
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May 31, 2016 22:55
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:It does huge damage, too. I think it's 150 damage, which means it can oneshot Zennyatta and Tracer. 140 without the headshot multiplier.
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Torb's left click does 70 damage, or 140 on a headshot, so no oneshots.
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