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Lol if the secret to valyrian steel was in the library this whole time... I'm sure the secret ingredient is dragons blood.
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Oh we're out of fire can we loan a dragon? Oh poo poo that's how you make Valyrian steel!
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Aug 17, 2017 19:14
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Sam: Ugh this is all bullshit, why hasn't anyone in this gay world invented WoW and pizza? Gilly: Hey Sam you fat whiny gently caress, what does Dummies' Guide to Forging Valyrian Steel mean? It says so in this ancient book titled Game of Thrones S07E07 Script. *30min or possibly 2 months later on the other side of the continent* Sam: So anyway I was studying really hard and found out how to make valyrian steel.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:15
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Here's my fanfiction for the conversation where Gendry reminds people he worked for the guy who melted down Ned's sword: "Who made your sword Lady Brienne?" "I am not a... It was forged by a smith in King's Landing, from Ned Stark's sword." "Of course, I knew I recognized the handywork, there's only smith who knows how to reforge valyrian steel m'lady and I used to be his apprentice" And this year I'm a writer on the show.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:19
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bloom posted:Sam: Ugh this is all bullshit, why hasn't anyone in this gay world invented WoW and pizza? It's like I'm reading the real script, uncanny
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Aug 17, 2017 19:19
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Sure but it kinda works with the whole "show has magic swords, it brought back this guy whose only characterization is that he's a smith after 4 seasons of absence, guy also happened to work for a smith that's been shown on screen working with magic steel making magic swords, good chances this guy is gonna learn how to make magic swords" line of thinking. Gendry was also personally witness to a Valaryian steel sword instantly killing a white walker and a bunch of wights connected to it, so fully understands just how valuable weapons like that would be for a hopelessly outnumbered army of the living. I'd say it's almost a certainty that there's a moment in the next episode where he says "Jon can I see that sword of yours..."
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Aug 17, 2017 19:21
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Knowing how predictable the show is now, Gendry will discover how to make valyrian steel when one of the dragons accidentally knocks over a bucket of obsidian and dragonfires it, fusing it with conveniently-placed bars of regular steel nearby.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:22
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emanresu tnuocca posted:"Who made your sword Lady Brienne?" She doesn't know this, as far as I know, Jamie didn't give her the sword's history when he gave it to her.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:26
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Trying to battle hordes of undead seems counter-productive to me Every person they slay just gets added to their ranks, they should take 10 good men and beeline for the NK imo
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Aug 17, 2017 19:27
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Where did the 3rd dragon go? Did it just gently caress off? Have to assume it's back. Saw Drogon fly off.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:41
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some guy on the bus posted:Was she pretending to be dumb when she was alone with Sansa in Ep5 being the world's biggest childish rear end in a top hat to her? This reminds me of Arya Durden from last year. Everyone who honestly believes that Arya was acting like a poo poo on purpose for the benefit of Littlefinger is  There is no 4d chess.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:01
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Arya loving sucks and has existed solely as a way for cooler characters to do stuff. the hound, brienne, tywin, jaqen, you name it she's worse than Sansa at this point and I wish she'd just died randomly. her abilities are magical and she has no idea what to do with them or what to do with herself and she might as well rip her own face off
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Aug 17, 2017 20:04
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Vintersorg posted:Where did the 3rd dragon go? Did it just gently caress off? Have to assume it's back. Saw Drogon fly off. have you read like the last two pages of this thread
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Aug 17, 2017 20:06
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gently caress Valyrian steel. Just launch like, 5000 jars of Wildfire at the Night King's army and have someone shoot some fire arrows in to it. Boom, army defeated, Jon gives a short speech about having to believe in yourself and everybody gets back to incest boning. Fade to black, cut to credits. Post-credit scene we learn that aunt-nephew incest themed porn has become really popular and HBO is getting kickbacks from all the major porn sites.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:07
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Propaganda Machine posted:have you read like the last two pages of this thread Have you? I can't find anything about the 3rd dragon.
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Vintersorg posted:Have you? I can't find anything about the 3rd dragon. Third dragon flew away. He's fine.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:22
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Third dragon bitched out worse more than the Hound watching Thoros get merked by a ice bear
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Third dragon bitched out worse more than the Hound watching Thoros get merked by a ice bear  I thought for sure he'd man up but he yah, the Hound hosed up.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:27
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Vintersorg posted:
Just about the one thing that made any sense about the episode was the Hound being petrified of a giant flaming undead bear. Tormund even made sure to remind the audience that the Hound's face was disfigured, by fire, remember that, audience?!
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Aug 17, 2017 20:31
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I don't think Gendry will be able to forge new Valyrian Steel, because it being super rare makes our heroes like Jamie, Brienne, Jon, Arya and whoever gets Heartsbane when they remember that Sam has it with him super special ultra warriors. Peasants will have to fight with Dragonglass. On the other hand Gendry could be geeking out with Sansa about armor, since she suddenly has a deep knowledge over it, leading to a romantic relationship that will make Psycho-Arya (Psarya?) very angry.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:42
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I can't see them making new Valyrian steel, but I'm sure he'll learn how to work dragonglass with dragon fire:
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esperterra posted:I can't see them making new Valyrian steel, but I'm sure he'll learn how to work dragonglass with dragon fire: Fun fact: Dragonglass only works against White Walkers but is useless against Wights, at least in the books.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:55
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IRQ posted:Just about the one thing that made any sense about the episode was the Hound being petrified of a giant flaming undead bear. No kidding. I almost forgot he hated fire. Wow. Interesting. /S But maybe this would be the time he'd get over it - at least briefly.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:57
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:There is no 4d chess. This, a billion times. We have been through this so many times already over the last seasons: everything on this dumb show is exactly as dumb as it appears. The NK didn't set a trap; Arya is Arya and totally psychotic now
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Aug 17, 2017 20:57
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re: obsidian Yeah, it's been bothering me they made that change. The moment where Sam tries to stab a wight with some and it shatters is so good.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:59
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Vintersorg posted:No kidding. He'll get over it when he wields a flaming sword in the last season.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:59
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esperterra posted:re: obsidian I think they did it because they thought the team with unkillable megaheroes who have dragons might need extra help for...drama reasons?
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Aug 17, 2017 21:06
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Skinty McEdger posted:He'll get over it when he wields a flaming sword in the last season. During Cleganebowl. 
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Aug 17, 2017 21:06
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He'll kill zombie Gregor with that which he used to burn Sandor's face. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:07
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GaussianCopula posted:I don't think Gendry will be able to forge new Valyrian Steel, because it being super rare makes our heroes like Jamie, Brienne, Jon, Arya and whoever gets Heartsbane when they remember that Sam has it with him super special ultra warriors. Peasants will have to fight with Dragonglass. Oh poo poo, Jamie is going to die because they all still think he's a hero and he still can't hit the broadside of a barn with his left hand. 
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Aug 17, 2017 21:14
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To be fair, in the books we don't know if dragonglass works on wights or not. When Sam tries to stab the wight with the dragonglass, he shatters it against the wight's armor.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:29
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I'm more impressed with Gendry climbing a goddamn mountain in a blizzard with no food or water and still making it in time to even send the raven. gendry has insane cardio from all that rowing
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Aug 17, 2017 21:52
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I could accept more that bringing back magic into the world just suddenly makes valerian steel forgeable in the presence of dragons. Because the knowledge was never lost.
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but i actually think valerian steel is actually a red herring and dawn is the important sword.
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esperterra posted:There's something really dirty about the writers turning a moment of shared trauma they could have bonded over (both being there when Ned lost his head) into a really awkward reason for Arya to yell at Sansa, all so the audience believes Littlefinger is playing them, before the sisters kill him next week. Agreed. This is the only episode in pretty much the entire series where i actively dislike Arya and how she's being portrayed. Yeah, I can understand she's still traumatized just from everything she's been through, but for fucks sake you just reunited with your sister, you know littlefinger is a sneaky bastard (right? They played off each other in King's Landing back in the day didn't they?), don't loving fight with your sister about whose fault it was Ned died.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Here's my fanfiction for the conversation where Gendry reminds people he worked for the guy who melted down Ned's sword: There's no way they're going to spare even a minute for this sort of exposition in the last 6 episodes (unless the rumor that all 6 are going to be movie-length is true), but otherwise I would not doubt this at all. They didn't even spare a moment for a throwaway line about why Jorah and Tormund and the Hound (I think) had dragonglass weapons. I was confused as hell watching them fight and wondering why they would throw down their sword, axe, hammer, etc for dinky little daggers and shortswords. There's just no time for anything but rushing through the big points. It's like having Brandon Sanderson write the episodes at this point. Also "the dragon has three heads" prophecy still works. I think Poor Quentyn or one of the other theorists said that basically the dragon = Jon, and the heads are various crowns or titles (King in the North, King of the Seven Kingdoms, etc). No way of knowing if being Lord Commander counts though.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:They didn't even spare a moment for a throwaway line about why Jorah and Tormund and the Hound (I think) had dragonglass weapons. I was confused as hell watching them fight and wondering why they would throw down their sword, axe, hammer, etc for dinky little daggers and shortswords. There's just no time for anything but rushing through the big points. It's like having Brandon Sanderson write the episodes at this point. There was a huge giant plot point about "We're starting to mine the dragonglass" in the last episode, so presumably the ranging party got the first weapons off the line.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:There's no way they're going to spare even a minute for this sort of exposition in the last 6 episodes (unless the rumor that all 6 are going to be movie-length is true), but otherwise I would not doubt this at all. The way I see it the show is still 80% filler, they wasted a lot of time on a lot of ultimately pointless poo poo and fanservice this season.
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Aug 17, 2017 22:41
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Lupus Rufus posted:Agreed. This is the only episode in pretty much the entire series where i actively dislike Arya and how she's being portrayed. Yeah, I can understand she's still traumatized just from everything she's been through, but for fucks sake you just reunited with your sister, you know littlefinger is a sneaky bastard (right? They played off each other in King's Landing back in the day didn't they?), don't loving fight with your sister about whose fault it was Ned died. Especially when such a big part of the books is all the Stark children thinking back fondly and longingly about their family, even the siblings they didn't like or think much of before they were split up. Their reuniting should be a good thing. Hell, I don't even care about them having some stupid squabble as a plot point. But at least establish some kind of relief/joy at being brought back together. I've never expected the show to give me a satisfying ending, or even tell me wholly how the books will end. But I've looked forward to these reunions and first meetings for years, and the show is doing it all in shortened seasons with no time for the relationships to breathe. My biggest disappointment of all in the adaptation tbh.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The way I see it the show is still 80% filler, they wasted a lot of time on a lot of ultimately pointless poo poo and fanservice this season. yup.
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