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Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Poor Adam lost it majorly when Joe brought in the news about the Blah Nloobities and Jeremy Vine's horrible mistreatment of them.

I think that's the first time I've ever heard him lose it that much. Even Joe, who is usually the more serious one, cracked up.

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Testro
May 2, 2009
re: QI - I think it might be Liza Tarbuck.

If I've recalled this correctly, in one episode, she blurts out the answer, "Gladiator!" and it's completely wrong.

Five minutes later, another question is asked...and the answer is Gladiator.

That moment really put a bit of a dampener on QI for me - it seemed so unlikely that she just so happened to think of a 10 year old film and try it out as an answer, and then it just so happened to be the answer to a future question in the same episode.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I know there was quite a bit of speculation that maybe Rory McGrath cheated on QI as he (supposedly) has done it on other shows, and he answered questions too quickly.

e: But to be fair, he is a very smart man I wouldn't be surprised if he did all of it himself.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



As far as the QI cheating goes, and whilst its sad, I think for TV to appeal to the masses entertainment overrides information. They obviously google the bric a brac on the Antiques Roadshow, so nothing is sacred. People do not prize knowledge like us goons.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Testro posted:

That moment really put a bit of a dampener on QI for me - it seemed so unlikely that she just so happened to think of a 10 year old film and try it out as an answer, and then it just so happened to be the answer to a future question in the same episode.

Depends what the questions are really. If it was a viable answer to both, then it's not that big of a coincidence. Also its quite possible that it was a fuckup on the edit, in that she was referring back to the other question. I know when I went to see it being filmed there was loads of stuff that didn't make it in and the stuff that did wasn't necessarily shown in the same order as it was recorded.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"

Trickjaw posted:

And Fred Flintstone.

And Karl Pilkingtons Dad. Think about it. :colbert:

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
If you haven't been watching this Choosing to Die programme on BBC 2 right now you're just a monster.

TJO
Aug 14, 2006

I had a funny feeling in my gut.

Kin posted:

If you haven't been watching this Choosing to Die programme on BBC 2 right now you're just a monster.

It was really strange. I kept thinking that it would be nicer if it were happening somewhere not surrounded by foreign accents in a blue Ikea-looking building and not on an industrial estate. Strange thing to watch all over.

Also finding out he didn't show the third man, who decided not to go through with it at all, takes away from the show a little to me.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Kin posted:

If you haven't been watching this Choosing to Die programme on BBC 2 right now you're just a monster.

forgot about that :(

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"

Kin posted:

If you haven't been watching this Choosing to Die programme on BBC 2 right now you're just a monster.

I can't watch Terry in that state. I just can't.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
It was perhaps edited out for timing. There's only so much they could show in the whole thing.

On top of that, with the assisted suicide being illegal here, there's already so much information available about those who choose not to die, yet not so much about the "boogyman" that is euthanasia.

Monster w21 Faces posted:

I can't watch Terry in that state. I just can't.

He still seems quite fine. A little somber, but the documentary probably called for that.

edit: the debate that's come on afterwards is quite telling too. Those against (that have spoken so far) are a priest who seems to be seeing implications in the documentary that aren't there, ones that he's using to reinforce his beliefs and an activist/actress who seems to be attempting something along the lines of scaremongering and complicating everything the pro-side say.

Kin fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 13, 2011

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
I honestly don't know what to say about that documentary other than that everyone should try to watch it.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

Kin posted:


edit: the debate that's come on afterwards is quite telling too. Those against (that have spoken so far) are a priest who seems to be seeing implications in the documentary that aren't there, ones that he's using to reinforce his beliefs and an activist/actress who seems to be attempting something along the lines of scaremongering and complicating everything the pro-side say.

Re: Newsnight. Half the panel really don't seem to get the difference between people with physical or learning disabilities, and terminally ill people. It would have been nice to show someone either being turned away from Dignitas, or to compare Dignitas with the final days of someone dying of cancer. I remember a documentary of a lady with breast cancer that showed the tumor ulcerating and in the final days she was drugged to the point of stupidity to manage the pain. That's the sort of death campaigners want to help people avoid, not rounding up people with Downs Syndrome and offing them.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Tsaedje posted:

I honestly don't know what to say about that documentary other than that everyone should try to watch it.

Seriously. The sadness and somber dignity of everyone in it is incredible. Plus Terry nooooo :(.

Jawidar
Feb 17, 2007
The Pratchett documentary was incredible; Andrew and Peter were awe inspiring - lucid, eloquent, totally at peace with their decision. Quite disturbing though. I'll remember the guy begging for water before suddenly falling asleep for a long time...

Not a Twat
Oct 11, 2010

Oops you almost got away without your Diddy

Jawidar posted:

I'll remember the guy begging for water before suddenly falling asleep for a long time...

Does anyone know why he wasn't given the water? It seemed a bit weird, and was uncomfortable to watch. Although, I'm not sure if he even had enough time to be given a drink of water and then drink it.

Something weird about the idea that your last thought as you die could something so simple and primal as a desire for water, despite all our human self-awareness, instead of something more profound.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Luther is on RIGHT NOW! almost

Ezzie
Apr 14, 2008

You are being shagged by a rare Parrot!
:parrot:

Not a Twat posted:

Does anyone know why he wasn't given the water? It seemed a bit weird, and was uncomfortable to watch. Although, I'm not sure if he even had enough time to be given a drink of water and then drink it.


Probably because the medicine taken before stopped the stomach from rejecting the poison taken afterwards. So I'm assuming the water could interact and possibly negate the poison or cause more discomfort? Not too sure - just a guess.

Agreeing with others..it was a brilliant documentary; very poignant. I welled-up quite a lot at Peter's death. He seemed like a splendid chap and was so calm with everything. But yes, I have a feeling that moment will stay with me. I do feel very sad for his wife, who seemed to be wanting to hold on to him for as long as she could. :smith:

Ezzie fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jun 14, 2011

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
God drat this show is silly. Not ten minutes in, and we've got the hobgoblin.
But... Idris :allears:

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Fattie fairy job mother giving more sound advice of "don't fight the system, don't kick off, don't complain, they can do what they want".

gently caress you.

Edit: Does Luther require any first series knowledge? I only really caught 1 or 2 episodes of it.

Kin fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jun 14, 2011

Holy Doughnuts!
Oct 20, 2010

Sergeant Butterman, the little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Not overly, but they look like they're at least referencing last season's finale. Give it a go anyway it's top class.

Also, Idris :allears:

Edit: What the hell is necro-porn?

Holy Doughnuts! fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jun 14, 2011

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

I liked it. I thought they were just doing two super length episodes but it looks like there might be a whole series, gosh. I wrote a story about spring heeled jack a few weeks ago and nobodies seen it yet and now when I show it people will be like 'ah luther' and I'll be all 'nah, monsters in my pocket', bummer.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Well that was awesome, a bit predictable with what would happen at the end there (just how exactly did he sneak into the car?), but nice and full of tension.

I'm betting the girl is in it with him. She seems odd enough and I bet she's taken the female detective while the ripper copycat has taken the dude.

Little bit annoyed that both of them didn't go into the flat with her. If anything, it's possible place he'd go to so they might as well thoroughly search it.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

justcola posted:

Luther is on RIGHT NOW! almost

That was good TV.

Holy Doughnuts!
Oct 20, 2010

Sergeant Butterman, the little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Glad this season continues the trend of really good credits music.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
Does Luther require its own thread? I guess not... it was awesome though! People in masks are always terrifying, but the general way it was filmed, combined with the music and overall ambience made the whole thing pretty intense.

oxeh
Nov 19, 2010
There are very few TV programs I will watch "live" so to speak but I've been waiting for the return of Luther.

For me it did not disappoint.

Jawidar
Feb 17, 2007

Kin posted:

Well that was awesome, a bit predictable with what would happen at the end there (just how exactly did he sneak into the car?)
It was so full of cliches that you could literally narrate the last five minutes as it happened (tight shot on the woman's face accompanied by creepy music - just a couple of false alarms/jump scares. Cut back to the guy in the car and it turns out the killer's right there in the car!!!)

Still awesome. What's the deal with the woman in the mental hospital who he's helping to escape? I only saw a few episodes in the first series.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

justcola posted:

I liked it. I thought they were just doing two super length episodes but it looks like there might be a whole series, gosh. I wrote a story about spring heeled jack a few weeks ago and nobodies seen it yet and now when I show it people will be like 'ah luther' and I'll be all 'nah, monsters in my pocket', bummer.

Between this and the hobgoblin joke: Is Luther actually supernatural? I thought it was a cop drama.

Holy Doughnuts!
Oct 20, 2010

Sergeant Butterman, the little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

Jawidar posted:


Still awesome. What's the deal with the woman in the mental hospital who he's helping to escape? I only saw a few episodes in the first series.

She pulled off a near-perfect double murder in the first episode, and only Luther saw through her, she's a sociopath and is fascinated with him as a result. She's also brilliant and scarily sexy. END OF SERIES ONE SPOILER She also killed Luther's ex-best friend who was on the take and shot Luther's ex-wife, framing Luther in the process.

Edit: No it isn't supernatural, it's just larger than life and a bit ridiculous while mixing in horrific crimes and genuine London gloom.

I love Luther so much.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
I love Luther but I think I love Alice more. That visiting room scene was glorious, especially his face when she said they could go away together.

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car
This sri-lankan documentary is good so far (in that it lacks hyperbole for the most part and is shot mainly by sri-lankans) Dispatches looks very interesting next week as well.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.
This Sri Lanka Killing Fields documentary is incredible. Legit making me feel sick.

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car

LE0N posted:

This sri-lankan documentary is good so far (in that it lacks hyperbole for the most part and is shot mainly by sri-lankans) Dispatches looks very interesting next week as well.

I posted this before things got seriously disturbing. loving hell.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

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LE0N posted:

I posted this before things got seriously disturbing. loving hell.

It's loving insane. I don't know much about the Sri Lankan civil war but holy gently caress where the hell were the UN?

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car

Zorba the Greek posted:

It's loving insane. I don't know much about the Sri Lankan civil war but holy gently caress where the hell were the UN?

I was always a big fan of C4's docs (Dispatches / Unreported World), some of the ones lately haven't been as good as their previous ones over the years, but i understand now why there was seemingly an increased amount of ads for this on tv. (by good i mean quality , not purely down to shock value either, this is shocking but it was a really thorough documentary for the time they had)

Ponce de Le0n fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 14, 2011

Gram-O-Phone
Mar 9, 2007

Oh, play that thing!

Zorba the Greek posted:

It's loving insane. I don't know much about the Sri Lankan civil war but holy gently caress where the hell were the UN?

The UN are an absolute loving farce. They're like a football referee who can only give a red card if the offending player agrees with him. Totally loving useless.

That documentary made me sick and angry, not just regarding the Sri Lankan government flouting every rule of war in the book, and the atrocious war crimes committed by the Sir Lankan army, but also the fact that the international community seem powerless to do anything about it, or bring anyone to justice. Totally sickening and unacceptable.

Gram-O-Phone fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jun 15, 2011

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.

Gram-O-Phone posted:

The UN are an absolute loving farce. They're like a football referee who can only give a red card if the offending player agrees with him. Totally loving useless.

That documentary made me sick and angry, not just regarding the Sri Lankan government flouting every rule of war in the book, and the atrocious war crimes committed by the Sir Lankan army, but also the fact that the international community seem powerless to do anything about it, or bring anyone to justice. Totally sickening and unacceptable.

Both sides are completely loving disgusting. Sri Lankan government or Tamil Tigers. They both did extremely hosed up things but goddamn I can't believe that poo poo happened without anyone in the international community going in. We loving go into Libya under the pretence of protecting civilians but when poo poo like that happens, we don't get involved?

gently caress that bullshit man. loving goddamn bullshit. That documentary hit me hard man my god. The images of the dead children got me so loving angry. gently caress the previous government from not doing anything and gently caress the international community too. :smithicide:

EDIT: Apologies for the rant but I am so pissed off right now.

Onion Vanguard fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 15, 2011

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
I literally don't understand how they could have let the Sri Lankan government to get away with this. How can we justify going into Libya and do nothing for the Sri Lankans? I'm so bloody confused with governments in general, they've all left me so jaded.

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Gram-O-Phone
Mar 9, 2007

Oh, play that thing!

Zorba the Greek posted:

Both sides are completely loving disgusting. Sri Lankan government or Tamil Tigers. They both did extremely hosed up things but goddamn I can't believe that poo poo happened without anyone in the international community going in. We loving go into Libya under the pretence of protecting civilians but when poo poo like that happens, we don't get involved?

gently caress that bullshit man. loving goddamn bullshit. That documentary hit me hard man my god. The images of the dead children got me so loving angry. gently caress the previous government from not doing anything and gently caress the international community too. :smithicide:

EDIT: Apologies for the rant but I am so pissed off right now.

That's OK, I think it's justified in this case. The fact is that the UN should have stayed to at least witness the conflict from within, as the Tamil civilians requested, and not turned tail and fled at the first sign of trouble. Essentially, the UN abjectly failed in at least one of its key aims, that of maintaining the rights of innocent civilians to live in peace and security, i.e. without the fear of being bombed by their own government as they lie in a hospital bed.

I was dumbfounded at the brazen attitude of the Sri Lankan government though. First they set up a supposed 'no fire zone' which turns out to be anything but. Then, when the remaining civilians are fleeing from the constant shelling, they set up another no-fire zone, as if to say 'Oh, sorry about bombing you to bits in the first zone, here's another one which will be safe, we promise! (fingers crossed)'. And the people go there out of desperation, clinging to the faint shred of hope that this time their government is telling the truth, that the first betrayal was somehow a mistake. But of course, it isn't, and the slaughter starts again. I can't imagine what it must be like to be pursued across your own country by your own government, and knowing that they wouldn't think twice about killing you or your friends or family. And seriously, what kind of sick fucks would repeatedly bomb a civilian hospital? These people were betrayed by everyone, their own army, their government and the international community.

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