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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Did he ever say anything once he realized Tor was a hub for CP distribution? I think he's okay with that.
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Feb 1, 2015 17:14
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Rockopolis posted:drat it, like usual it's only after the dude leaves that I come up with a better question. I can field this one. Threatening people with nuclear annihilation if they don't capitulate is a violation of the NAP, therefore
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Feb 1, 2015 18:28
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Who What Now posted:Isn't Synero's website defunct? That was their blog.
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The answer to "will there be nukes under the NAP" lies in applying as corollary Jeff Cooper's four rules of gun safety. You can't point a nuke in a safe direction and therefore it is not a safe weapon and therefore no one would use it because mankind annihilating itself is a very silly thing!! Also I turned my fedora upside down on the floor at midnight and chanted "Mises Mises in a hat, show me where aggression's at" three times.
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To be fair here, presumably part of the transition to libertopia would involve dismantling the US nuclear arsenal.
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VitalSigns posted:To be fair here, presumably part of the transition to libertopia would involve dismantling the US nuclear arsenal. A nuke in every home!
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Feb 2, 2015 00:37
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Disinterested posted:A nuke in every home! Its our 2nd Amendment RIGHT! Down with the state
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Yeah, the real libertarian answer is that you're free to build and keep nuclear weapons. Who's going to stop you? The average person can't do it, but the people with money can hire the people with capability and then threaten regions with nuclear annihilation unless they pay tribute. But that's good, because it's free association!
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah, the real libertarian answer is that you're free to build and keep nuclear weapons. Who's going to stop you? The average person can't do it, but the people with money can hire the people with capability and then threaten regions with nuclear annihilation unless they pay tribute. But that's good, because it's free association! I think the real libertarian answer is nobody would have them because they're irrational aka magical thinking because they're supremely rational if you're the only person who has one and the only rational option if someone else has them.
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VitalSigns posted:To be fair here, presumably part of the transition to libertopia would involve dismantling the US nuclear arsenal. How, though? You don't just flip a switch and have nuclear bombs be "off". Even if you make it impossible to arm the detonators you still have to deal with the raw materials.
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0. Nuclear weapons can be used offensively or defensively. 1. Nobody would ever violate the NAP if it weren't for state interference, so nobody would use nuclear weapons. 2. Therefore, no nuclear weapons would be needed as deterrents. 3. Therefore, there would be no logical or moral reason to build nuclear weapons, so nobody would.
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Muscle Tracer posted:0. Nuclear weapons can be used offensively or defensively. 4. *fart*
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Disinterested posted:I think the real libertarian answer is nobody would have them because they're irrational aka magical thinking because they're supremely rational if you're the only person who has one and the only rational option if someone else has them. No, you're absolutely right. NAP, therefore no violence would occur (and if it did then that person would get a scammer tag on their bitcoin address and they'd become outcasts from society). Because it's totally reasonable to assume poo poo like this
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Who What Now posted:How, though? You don't just flip a switch and have nuclear bombs be "off". Even if you make it impossible to arm the detonators you still have to deal with the raw materials. I don't know, just dump it in the ocean or something, that doesn't violate the NAP so it's all good. And if the first step is abolishing welfare and all labor laws, then I'm sure the government can find an enterprising contractor willing to make a tidy profit doing this considering there'd be no shortage of poverty-stricken children ready and willing to load radioactive materials onto barges.
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VitalSigns posted:I don't know, just dump it in the ocean or something, that doesn't violate the NAP so it's all good. Ergo James Cameron and his fleet of deep-sea submersibles would claim the dumped nukes and rule the world. From this point forth the Earth will be referred to as James Cameron Land, and any society, city-state, or voluntary nation that does not pay fealty to him will be destroyed. All hail the Arch-Avatar.
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Who What Now posted:Ergo James Cameron and his fleet of deep-sea submersibles would claim the dumped nukes and rule the world. Avatar: the last Nukebender, Wait wrong franchise.
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Who What Now posted:Isn't Synero's website defunct? The blog and the twitter are both dead, so we don't get gems like this;  quote:Network Dynamics Chapter 2 - Content, Interests, and Communities on @Synereo’s Platform. http://bit.ly/1yWVLX8 The end of an era  ... well, at least until Eripsa notices another word appear a lot in the popular science articles he skims.
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The website may be dead, but synoreo will live on forever in our hearts.
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Wanamingo posted:The website may be dead, but synoreo will live on forever in our hearts. Good news! http://www.synereo.com/
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DrProsek posted:The blog and the twitter are both dead, so we don't get gems like this; They both seem to be up as far as I can tell. They even updated their website with more useless buzzwords, catch phrases and usage of other company's IP as placeholder art (Hello League and Community).
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Caros posted:They both seem to be up as far as I can tell. They even updated their website with more useless buzzwords, catch phrases and usage of other company's IP as placeholder art (Hello League and Community). Huh son of a bitch, I'm so bad at Twitter I thought that the twitter was abandoned because the first post I saw was from October, but the post that I got that image and text from were from last week. Even their github had something updated 4 days ago. Looks like Eripsa's really into this  .
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DrProsek posted:Huh son of a bitch, I'm so bad at Twitter I thought that the twitter was abandoned because the first post I saw was from October, but the post that I got that image and text from were from last week. Even their github had something updated 4 days ago. I think you are literally like, the third person I've seen that mistake, not including myself the first time I looked at it. On the other hand it is an easy mistake to make since the difference between "They'll never make this and it will flop if they do." and "They made a few mock up things before it utterly falls apart" are pretty slim.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Good news! http://www.synereo.com/ Well look at that! They had the good sense to re-up their subscription on the domain. And they even took the time to put in some basic coding. It's like they're a real company!
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A social network that takes the thing literally everyone hates most about social networks—advertising—and makes that the primary benefit! Better yet, you have to earn the ability to upvote, something that every other social network lets you do for free! And best of all, it's not just completely decentralized, it's also completely anonymous!
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Who What Now posted:Well look at that! They had the good sense to re-up their subscription on the domain. And they even took the time to put in some basic coding. It's like they're a real company!  "I got so many marbles, I had to take a second wife."
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SedanChair posted:
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Caros posted:My god, its full of And drug and illegal firearm trade. Really it's a trinity of illicit trade, not unlike the trinity of Christianity. Coincidence?! ...maybe.
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DrProsek posted:Looks like Eripsa's really into this I'm a fairly peripheral member of the team; there's a half dozen core members running things, and another few dozen collaborating from the edges. We have a professional media team operating for the duration of the fundraising; if you have suggestions about the feeds I suggest you respond to them directly, because someone is paying attention. . The core technology really exists and really works, and was built by actual professionals who actually know what they're doing. We're working with the people who built splicious; synereo adds some attention economic principles for managing information flow and consensus-driven community management on top. It is far more interesting and plausible than anything I could have come up with myself, and I'm happy to help the project in whatever way I can. When the whitepaper goes public (should be soon) I'll post a real D&D thread so we can talk about the specifics. I'll be saying the word "networks" quite a lot.
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Eripsa posted:I'm a fairly peripheral member of the team; there's a half dozen core members running things, and another few dozen collaborating from the edges. We have a professional media team operating for the duration of the fundraising; if you have suggestions about the feeds I suggest you respond to them directly, because someone is paying attention. . Have you come up with a solution to deal with the fact that your network is going to be primarily used, if only at first, by people trying to evade detection for illegal activities such as child pornography, or do you still not really give a poo poo about that? On a less pithy note I do look forward to your next thread. It's boring with jrodefeld gone. Edit: Gotta say, I'm sort of amused that your example video for the tech you are using is some poor audio youtube video with 400 views. loving Broken Loose got more views in 24 hours about his proposed board game based around super robot style combiners. Caros fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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Caros posted:Have you come up with a solution to deal with the fact that your network is going to be primarily used, if only at first, by people trying to evade detection for illegal activities such as child pornography, or do you still not really give a poo poo about that? To be fair a game about robot combiners is infinitely more viable than Synero
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Caros posted:Edit: Gotta say, I'm sort of amused that your example video for the tech you are using is some poor audio youtube video with 400 views. loving Broken Loose got more views in 24 hours about his proposed board game based around super robot style combiners. That's an old video from a previous iteration of the tech. Synereo will launch with a completely reworked demo. I'm just showing that we have working code, which is to say that it's not vaporware. That doesn't make it a messiah either, of course, but it does mean that our arguments over how it will work will have more than my feeble mind to contend with. The white paper itself runs over 50 pages, most of it math written by an actual mathematician.
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Eripsa posted:That's an old video from a previous iteration of the tech. Synereo will launch with a completely reworked demo. I'm just showing that we have working code, which is to say that it's not vaporware. That doesn't make it a messiah either, of course, but it does mean that our arguments over how it will work will have more than my feeble mind to contend with. The white paper itself runs over 50 pages, most of it math written by an actual mathematician. Tell me more about your tech program that will allow me to free my city from fiat currency. Also please share a redacted versions n of the white papers. God bless.
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RuanGacho posted:Also please share a redacted versions of the white papers.
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Eripsa posted:That's an old video from a previous iteration of the tech. Synereo will launch with a completely reworked demo. I'm just showing that we have working code, which is to say that it's not vaporware. That doesn't make it a messiah either, of course, but it does mean that our arguments over how it will work will have more than my feeble mind to contend with. The white paper itself runs over 50 pages, most of it math written by an actual mathematician. Err, I think you sort of missed my point. The point was that your example of the 'core tech' behind this is software that is so 'innovative' and 'world shaking' that it couldn't gather more than five hundred hits on youtube over the course of 4/5ths of a year. I'm sure it exists, but for technology that is going to redefine how we as a society view ourselves and our currency, no one seems to have given much of a poo poo. And the fact that you have working code does not mean that it isn't vaporware. Star Citizen has had working Alpha and Beta software for like... god it feels like centuries now but I guess its only two or three years now? That doesn't mean that Star Citizen isn't vaporware, because ultimately it isn't delivering on the vast majority of things that it promised in any practical timeline. The things you expect your uber-network to do are things that it will be functionally incapable of doing based on such difficult concepts as 'reality' and 'common sense' so I expect it will remain vaporware, but amusing to discuss. Nice dodge on the CP question by the way. You're still in top form!
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How do you contribute to a paper with math you don't understand? Maybe the math says "grind babies up for fuel." Did you ever consider that?
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Have you tried 'raise VAT and Kill All The Poor?'
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SedanChair posted:How do you contribute to a paper with math you don't understand? Maybe the math says "grind babies up for fuel." Did you ever consider that? I get a kick out of the fact that "Its over fifty pages of math, by actual mathematicians!" Hoo-loving-ray? Frankly I'd be more interested in a functional alpha or beta version of his software than a fifty page whitepaper about how great this is going to be. The irony of facebook and twitter is that there wasn't any huge loving hype for them. People with an idea quietly produced software, and then marketed that software once they had something functional that people had a desire to use. Eripsa and co are basically going the Bitcoin route in trying to make it look like they are developing some impossibly awesome new thing, when in reality... not so much.
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