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Mr. Fortitude posted:How am I the crazy one? Because I feel Fallout 1 aged like milk and Fallout 2 is by far the better of the isometric games? Seriously though, you go on some tangent about people from NMA and how anyone anyone who likes any of the previous Fallout games is just like them, then say anyone who has legitimate criticism about Fallout 3 is being a ignorant nitpicker. Fallout 3 problems are glaring, and not because  people over looked stuff or that Bethesda was trying to forge it's own identity, it's because they did a lovely job making a lovely Fallout game.frajaq posted:I wouldn't call Fallout 3 lovely, it was a pretty decent game, specially when it came out To each there own, I personally thought it was crap, but that's just my opinion. Hihohe posted:Fallout 1 and 2 Did age like milk though. You'll get no argument from me, the games came out almost 20 years ago, It's dated as dated can be. Course I don't think Fallout 3 has aged any better in that regard, at least Fallout 1&2 high points are it's story, but Fallout 3 high point is it's gameplay and it was outdated even when it came out. 
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I wouldn't call Fallout 3 lovely, it was a pretty decent game, specially when it came out
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Jun 26, 2015 17:59
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Fallout 1 and 2 Did age like milk though.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:00
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Fallout 3 is a victim of hindsight. A lot of games that seem good at the time but when they are trumped by its successor then it seems a lot worse. Borderlands, Saints Row, and Mass Effect are other examples of games that seemed fantastic on release but are dull and lackluster compared to their sequels.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:03
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Spun Dog posted:Vodoo priest protagonist, bead based currency, mutant crawdaddies, banjos. gently caress, I'd buy that day one. Wouldn't that basically be part Bioshock as Old Orleans would be a bubble city on the toxic ocean floor?
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Jun 26, 2015 18:07
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Hihohe posted:Fallout 1 and 2 Did age like milk though. The only problem I truly have with Fallout 1 is the limit of 3 digits on doing cap transactions. Buying high end stuff with a low barter skill ends up with you having to do 999 caps, ok, 999 caps, ok, 999 caps, ok, 999 caps, ok for 10 straight minutes to move enough money over.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:27
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Is this robodad thing just a joke/assumption about the time gap? Or is there something I haven't seen outside the e3 footage?
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Jun 26, 2015 18:49
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I will say that Fallout 3 aged a little better and is more accessible, Before fallout 3 I hadnt even play any of the Fallouts, I think i remember fallout 1 and 2 combo packs in those little computer game boxes at the Walmart (god i miss those) and I never remembered the name and made the connection. When i played the game at first i was kinda floored by all you could do. I remember playing it with my friend and busting out laughing when Bloody mess fricken exploded things. The vats bullet time stuff was always cool. The story was enhh and forgettable but i usually ignored it. My freaking jaw dropped when i first used the Fat Man. There were a lot of things they considered when making this game for a new audience that I think is pretty good game design. 3 is a different game for a different age and to compare them to 1 and 2 is like comparing Rock and Roll to Rap. Hihohe fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 26, 2015 |
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Jun 26, 2015 18:50
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I wonder if newer models of power armor will need fuel. IIRC, T-51b's fuel cores were supposed to last for thousands of years.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:53
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SunAndSpring posted:I wonder if newer models of power armor will need fuel. IIRC, T-51b's fuel cores were supposed to last for thousands of years. Tragically they used the same battery life estimator that cell phone manufacturers use
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Crabtree posted:Wouldn't that basically be part Bioshock as Old Orleans would be a bubble city on the toxic ocean floor? It just keeps getting better. Picturing a Mad Max, scrap metal diving bell.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:56
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The power armor will be a victim of planned obsolescence.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:57
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Cheap Shot posted:Is this robodad thing just a joke/assumption about the time gap? Or is there something I haven't seen outside the e3 footage? People are extrapolating from the fact that Fallout 3 had a quest that hinted that the Institute was kinda Bladerunner-y with human-like androids, and the fact that this is a character whose been supposedly frozen for two hundred years and guessing at that as being a twist.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:59
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SunAndSpring posted:I wonder if newer models of power armor will need fuel. IIRC, T-51b's fuel cores were supposed to last for thousands of years. If they're smart, they'll make a small off hand comment about the core being ruptured or something. If don't, it's going to be a weird recont for power armor.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:14
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Can androids get high?
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BenRGamer posted:People are extrapolating from the fact that Fallout 3 had a quest that hinted that the Institute was kinda Bladerunner-y with human-like androids, and the fact that this is a character whose been supposedly frozen for two hundred years and guessing at that as being a twist. Plus, we know what happened to the last guy who was frozen for 200 years. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dobbs
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Jun 26, 2015 19:18
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Plus he isn't actually in the vault when the bombs fell. I've got to imagine that the moment Boston gets nuked nobody inside the vault is going to open that door on the off chance that the next bomb will be close enough to irradiate the vault or damage the door so it can't close.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Can androids get high? Androids dream of electric weed.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:26
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I say take the New Orleans idea one step further and have a sequel set in chunks along the Mississippi River between New Orleans and St. Louis. Lots of amphibious combat, TONS of American history and culture crammed into one geographic feature, mutant catfish societies, river boat piloting, floating cities, gambling.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:58
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Manket posted:I say take the New Orleans idea one step further and have a sequel set in chunks along the Mississippi River between New Orleans and St. Louis. Lots of amphibious combat, TONS of American history and culture crammed into one geographic feature, mutant catfish societies, river boat piloting, floating cities, gambling. This would be really cool. You get a small barge, and use FO4's construction system to build it into a houseboat, add some solar panels and a small deck gun and sail your mobile player home up and down the river to the various locations.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:02
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New Orleans would be a really great setting for a Fallout game. If Bethesda is ever going to do an Elder Scrolls in Black Marsh, they should release the two together, so they can work on stuff like water combat in both series, fine-tuning it so that it's better in whichever game comes second.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:11
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Nevets posted:This would be really cool. You get a small barge, and use FO4's construction system to build it into a houseboat, add some solar panels and a small deck gun and sail your mobile player home up and down the river to the various locations. Fallout:Black Flag
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Spun Dog posted:It just keeps getting better. Picturing a Mad Max, scrap metal diving bell. Of course, the game won't be complete if you can't ally and buddy with the Cajuns by comprehending Acadian and Creole french. Not enough of those folks in media and I'd love to hear them find someone that can speak the old way. I won't even care if you have some of them become part gator, just let that local flavor be represented right.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:32
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frajaq posted:I wouldn't call Fallout 3 lovely, it was a pretty decent game, specially when it came out Right, I bet literally everybody itt enjoyed FO3 back in the day, and only greww sour in retrospect, after NV evolved the FO3 platform. Which brings up the point that no matter how inferior you think the FO3 was to the NV, there would be no New Vegas, and probably no Obsidian, without Bethesda's legwork. Bethesda was like the French at the Panama Canal - underappreciated and ridiculed by posterity, but absolutely essential to making the greatness of the Canal / game possible.
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Back Hack posted:If they're smart, they'll make a small off hand comment about the core being ruptured or something. If don't, it's going to be a weird recont for power armor. Only the T-51b and Advanced Power Armor have micro fusion cores, the T-45d was supposed to be powered by small energy cells. You don't actually have to feed the thing energy cells in Fallout 3 but there's some line about it in Van Buran and the Fallout Bible. My guess for Fallout 4 is that early models of power armor will have fuel requirements, and more advanced models you get later will have the unlimited 10,000 year micro-fusion cells.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Can androids get high? Androids only get high because their CPU tells them to. Otherwise you could tell who was an android by getting them high and seeing that it had no effect. There's a deleted scene from Blade Runner where the replicant hunters make people smoke future-weed to see if they get high; the first generations of replicants don't exhibit any "high" symptoms. Even Deckard smokes weed and is like, "this poo poo is weak, I don't even feel it."
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Jun 26, 2015 20:44
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That would be a cool way of slowly introducing the player to PA, you can only use it for a few minutes before you power runs out in the early game, but after a late game quest you can operate it indefinitely.
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FO3 was a good game. The only thing that sucked about it was the writing. It was very low quality and lacked the dark and cynical humor from the first two games. But I realize Black Isle was very special in that regard. (Baldur's Gate series also had amazing writing for its time.)
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Androids only get high because their CPU tells them to. Otherwise you could tell who was an android by getting them high and seeing that it had no effect. There's a deleted scene from Blade Runner where the replicant hunters make people smoke future-weed to see if they get high; the first generations of replicants don't exhibit any "high" symptoms. Even Deckard smokes weed and is like, "this poo poo is weak, I don't even feel it." Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is written by Philip K. Dick, so you more or less have to expect that anyone, human, android, dead person, whatever, is tripping balls on some kind of souped up Future Drug.
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Bicyclops posted:Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is written by Philip K. Dick, so you more or less have to expect that anyone, human, android, dead person, whatever, is tripping balls on some kind of souped up Future Drug. The thing about Electric Sheep is that the characters experience their existential nightmares through excruciatingly sober minds. They are not allowed the respite of altered consciousness, and no matter what they do, they are confronted with their own system of morality. The protagonist even has a chat with his own god, reflecting upon the greater meaning of his existence, and his previous actions.
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Philip K. Dick is extremely cool and if there are little references to his work, it might make me crack a smile as I am playing my possibly robot dad.
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I've wanted Fallout: Louisiana for a while now. It'd be the coolest.
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Bicyclops posted:New Orleans would be a really great setting for a Fallout game. If Bethesda is ever going to do an Elder Scrolls in Black Marsh, they should release the two together, so they can work on stuff like water combat in both series, fine-tuning it so that it's better in whichever game comes second. Toss in wandering groups of feral ghouls who run around with musical instruments playing New Orleans-style jazz with their rusty instruments.
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Shroud posted:Toss in wandering groups of feral ghouls who run around with musical instruments playing New Orleans-style jazz with their rusty instruments. Day One "Rusty Trombone" Loverslab mod
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Hihohe posted:I will say that Fallout 3 aged a little better and is more accessible, Before fallout 3 I hadnt even play any of the Fallouts, I think i remember fallout 1 and 2 combo packs in those little computer game boxes at the Walmart (god i miss those) and I never remembered the name and made the connection. When i played the game at first i was kinda floored by all you could do. I remember playing it with my friend and busting out laughing when Bloody mess fricken exploded things. The vats bullet time stuff was always cool. The story was enhh and forgettable but i usually ignored it. My freaking jaw dropped when i first used the Fat Man. No you didn't, you hated it, everybody hates video games because their mom won't let them get Call Of Duty because it's mature.
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Shroud posted:Toss in wandering groups of feral ghouls who run around with musical instruments playing New Orleans-style jazz with their rusty instruments. A produce wagon ghoul, selling his wares. I've got bottled water, bottle caps, Brahmin meat with salt. I've got Fancy Lads Snack cakes, more better than the Vault. I've got rum and nuka, enough to suit ya, Pork n' beans of every kind If hungry is what's eatin' you, I'll sell you piece of mind. Ah, but this ain't what you came to hear me say. Well I hate to disappoint you, but I got no love today. I got no love today. I got no love today. No love today.
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Yaos posted:No you didn't, you hated it, everybody hates video games because their mom won't let them get Call Of Duty because it's mature. Press (F) to disrespect elders.
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catlord posted:I've wanted Fallout: Louisiana for a while now. It'd be the coolest. They have lots of experience with natural disasters so I'm sure a wasteland would be a very believable setting.
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Back Hack posted:Plus, we know what happened to the last guy who was frozen for 200 years. To be fair, as bad as people think it is, they also introduced cryogenic freezing in Mothership Zeta that worked better. And the article specifically mentions bio med gel possibly having something to do with it, too.
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