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New Canadian SAR aircraft delivery flight
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 17:15 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:00 |
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Here, have *all* the stop-motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKOIAM9BcWQ Skip to 1:10 to actually get to the action.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 22:49 |
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That's some spicy piloting! Funny, I thought Lufthansa was retiring their A340s, but I saw a -300 flying over me the other day and it appears it's still making regular flights from Frankfurt to Seattle and even to Singapore sometimes. D-AIGZ. Must not have got the chopping block yet.
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# ? Oct 7, 2020 21:13 |
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https://barnfinds.com/twin-plug-plane-1988-mooney-m20l-pfm/ What's the TBO on a Porsche flat 6?
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# ? Oct 7, 2020 23:18 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18x38IMAwrY
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# ? Oct 7, 2020 23:21 |
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Charles posted:That's some spicy piloting! According to the flightradar24 podcast they are keeping a couple. I think it was in the latest episode: https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/avtalk-episode-94-what-a-mess/
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# ? Oct 7, 2020 23:33 |
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rscott posted:https://barnfinds.com/twin-plug-plane-1988-mooney-m20l-pfm/ Not sure what TBO is, but there's essentially zero parts available (Porsche stopped production in 1991, surrendered the type certificate and abandoned all support in 2007, and there's no aftermarket), and the FAA has put out documents basically telling owners that the airplanes will be considered airworthy if they meet the original airworthiness requirements, but good luck with that. Porsche knew the engines were going to bite them in the rear end down the line, so they set up a program to convert airplanes to other engines (with Porsche paying 70% of the cost) to reduce their liability, and they also destroyed several stocks of spare parts to further reduce future legal issues. My understanding is that he FAA will allow owners to install equivalent replacement parts for stuff like valve springs (after jumping through a lot of hoops), from non-approved manufacturers, since there are some regulations in place for aircraft that end up "orphaned" by the manufacturer. azflyboy fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Oct 7, 2020 |
# ? Oct 7, 2020 23:52 |
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azflyboy posted:Not sure what TBO is, but there's essentially zero parts available (Porsche stopped production in 1991, surrendered the type certificate and abandoned all support in 2007, and there's no aftermarket), and the FAA has put out documents basically telling owners that the airplanes will be considered airworthy if they meet the original airworthiness requirements, but good luck with that. Those regs are a lot more effective at keeping orphaned airframes in the air than they are at keeping orphaned engines in the air. Porsche Mooneys with the original engine are curios at this point, sadly.
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# ? Oct 8, 2020 00:53 |
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I assume that's because most airframe components last a long time, and are usually nothing more complex than curved bits of metal/composite/wood, or fasteners or brackets made from those same things, so a skilled amateur can probably make them if they can't find someone to do it for them. It's probably a hell of a lot harder to find a supplier for something like a piston or crankshaft that involves complex metallurgy and precision machining (to say nothing of potential liability), especially when those parts get worn out way faster than anything on the airframe.
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# ? Oct 8, 2020 03:24 |
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azflyboy posted:I assume that's because most airframe components last a long time, and are usually nothing more complex than curved bits of metal/composite/wood, or fasteners or brackets made from those same things, so a skilled amateur can probably make them if they can't find someone to do it for them. Say what you like about Jack Roush, but his company has done an enormous service for the warbird community generally and the Merlin community specifically, keeping otherwise unsupported engines in the air.
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# ? Oct 8, 2020 03:48 |
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I didn't realize anyone was doing new PMA parts for Merlins. I assume they're hellishly expensive, even relative to "normal" airplane parts.
azflyboy fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 8, 2020 |
# ? Oct 8, 2020 03:52 |
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I hired someone to fly my new Pitts away and help me with transition training once it's closer to home. I spent yesterday watching the ground speed from the ADS-B out, and I'm excited about the 150-180 mph cruise speeds. On climb out the ADS-B reports 1400 fpm at a 120 knots cruise climb, and seemed to peak at 2000 fpm.azflyboy posted:It's probably a hell of a lot harder to find a supplier for something like a piston or crankshaft that involves complex metallurgy and precision machining (to say nothing of potential liability), especially when those parts get worn out way faster than anything on the airframe. There are new Franklin, Warner, and probably Ranger parts being made, but those engines fill a niche that the Porsche aircraft engines didn't. FAR §21.303(b)2 covers this situation, an aircraft owner can produce parts for an aircraft, and I bet you can find a machine shop in the US that will make everything except the castings. What does the FAA mean by owner supplied parts? http://www.velocolutions.com/FAA-owner-manufactured-part.pdf "The owner provided the manufacturer with design or performance data from which to manufacture the part. (This may occur, for instance, where a person provided a part to the manufacturer and asked that the part be duplicated". If you owned that plane, you could replace piston rings and stuff, provided you had some detailed involvement in specing them out or manufacturing them. Your A&P could not do the same. The A&P signing the paperwork and installing the part (which the owner can't do without A&P supervision) should be really careful in making sure you did your homework with the part, and better make sure it's airworthy. If they sign off on your beer can gaskets, they fail, and you have an accident, the FAA will be coming for their license. None of that is probably worthwhile, if that plane wasn't priced so high, it would be getting a Continental installed like all the other Porsche-Mooneys.
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# ? Oct 8, 2020 12:49 |
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wzm posted:I hired someone to fly my new Pitts away and help me with transition training once it's closer to home. I spent yesterday watching the ground speed from the ADS-B out, and I'm excited about the 150-180 mph cruise speeds. On climb out the ADS-B reports 1400 fpm at a 120 knots cruise climb, and seemed to peak at 2000 fpm. And this is a really good example of why Flying Cars won't happen anytime soon. The other examples are Dashcam Compilations and people sleeping in their Teslas. We as a whole haven't mastered 2 dimensions.
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# ? Oct 8, 2020 12:58 |
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wzm posted:If you owned that plane, you could replace piston rings and stuff, provided you had some detailed involvement in specing them out or manufacturing them. Your A&P could not do the same. The A&P signing the paperwork and installing the part (which the owner can't do without A&P supervision) should be really careful in making sure you did your homework with the part, and better make sure it's airworthy. If they sign off on your beer can gaskets, they fail, and you have an accident, the FAA will be coming for their license. Some nitpicking, if FAR §21.303 worked like that it would be an extremely tedious process to have any sheet metal repairs made because either the owner, the manufacturer, or a PMA would be responsible for creating the patch, since a mechanic would not be allowed to do so. The last paragraph of the document you link disagrees with that interpretation: 'Notwithstanding that repair stations and mechanics bill their customers for parts, along with the labor of installing the parts, those entities produce the parts for the purpose of accomplishing maintenance on products, limited to those products brought in by their customers. As described in order No. 8000.50, a repair station may produce a replacement or modification part, under FAR Parts 43 and 145, for an STC modification or a field-approved repair or alteration, given certain circumstances that assure quality control of the part produced. Compliance with part 43 gives the assurances of the quality control for a part produced by a part 65 mechanic. In addition, compliance with the maintenance recordkeeping requirements memorializes the circumstances of production and installation of the part. Accordingly, the objectives of Subpar K are achieved when a part is produced by a repair station or mechanic for installation on a customer's product: the installed part is introduced into the aviation stream of commerce with the necessary evidence of the part's suitability. Thus, one can conclude, as a matter of law, that a repair station or mechanic has not produced the above-described part "for sale" for installation on a type certificated product, as defined in the context of 21.303(a)' Practical concerns aside, an appropriately rated mechanic is absolutely allowed to fabricate parts in order to bring an aircraft back to an airworthy state so long as any fabricated parts conform to acceptable data and they are fabricating those parts for the repair of the aircraft that they are working on specifically. AC 43-18 clarifies this a bit further. As far as repair parts go, if you have to make one yourself it's all about making sure it conforms to acceptable data, and the conformity to acceptable data determines whether or not a mechanic is in compliance when he installs it. Finding and conforming to acceptable data may be a challenge for some older aircraft and there are definitely mechanics and pilots who play a little bit loose when it comes to repair parts. EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 8, 2020 |
# ? Oct 8, 2020 16:57 |
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I didn't see this here, so let me post it: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-will-consolidate-787-production-in-s-c-leaving-everett-wsj-reports/ So, you have a union plant that does excellent aerospace work, and this non-union plant that you tried and failed to get to do that work for cheaper, and it's done tremendous damage to business and your reputation. What do you do? Expand the crap plant and abandon the union one, obviously
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 02:13 |
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This surely won’t impact product quality
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 02:55 |
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We in Washington love Boeing management and all the deals we gave them haha
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 03:31 |
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Sure the planes fall apart in midair, but what are we gonna do about these Q3 numbers?
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 03:39 |
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Arson Daily posted:Sure the planes fall apart in midair, but what are we gonna do about these Q3 numbers? It didn't fall apart, that was just a "less than optimal weight reduction strategy", and the FAA totally let us grade out own homework on the airplane, so there's no problems here.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 04:55 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:I didn't see this here, so let me post it: lmao the next Air Force One is going to have to be an Airbus.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 06:26 |
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Trumps last act will be to order some A380Neo's and have Boeing build them in Everett.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 06:44 |
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slidebite posted:Trumps last act will be to order some A380Neo's and have Boeing build them in Everett. The main reason the replacement 747-8s got such a rush order put on them is because he was butthurt by Qatar and Kuwait having newer, bigger, and longer planes than his.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 06:56 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:I didn't see this here, so let me post it: I've heard it's partially so they can move the narrow body production out of Renton and sell that property since it's waterfront Seattle and worth $$$$$, since they're so desperate for cash to pay down that $50 billion in debt they've taken on in the last year, but really this has been the plan the whole time since they stood that plant up with soulless managers who put quality at priority 3 at best Basically going down the same path Sears did when the real estate was worth more than the rest of the company
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 15:20 |
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rscott posted:Basically going down the same path Sears did when the real estate was worth more than the rest of the company A proven path to success!
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 18:02 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXpJcb3wjM
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 18:33 |
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When the music started I expected descending joint and sunglasses.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 19:01 |
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In Finland with flat land and copious amount of farms you are usually near a good outland spot, except for few of the larger forests and swamps which you may not want to overfly if the weather isn't solid. But in the mountainous regions you really need to know where you can outland, end up in the wrong valley and the forest is your only option. In those regions they produce book that list all the locations that have been judged suitable for outlanding, with maps and photos. On that video it's nice that he decided to stick with the original landing plan while still at safe altitude. Switching the landing spot when is always a dangerous temptation. It's hard to judge from the video, but it looks and sounds like he is doing a sideslip during final to achieve some extra descent speed. Because of that he also seems to have some excess speed over the standard 100km/h or less, since you can't trust the air speed indicator anymore. If the landing field is looking end up too short you always have the option to push the stick and put the nose in the ground, it's not like you need to worry about the propeller. If the situation really looks dire you have the option to stick one of your wingtips in the ground. This will cause the plane to telemark and it will stop almost on the spot, but it will almost most likely cause at least minor damage.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 19:21 |
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The description has some information about the circumstances.quote:At that day I was flying SZD-48M "Brawo" (pimped out Jantar Std 3) taking part in Austrian Junior Gliding Championships in Kapfenberg. It was my first time there and the area was new for me as I had only two days of training before the competition.
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 19:25 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The main reason the replacement 747-8s got such a rush order put on them is because he was butthurt by Qatar and Kuwait having newer, bigger, and longer planes than his. he also wants a AF1 with the really hideous new livery he picked out
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# ? Oct 9, 2020 20:54 |
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FuturePastNow posted:he also wants a AF1 with the really hideous new livery he picked out I actually don't mind the new livery, and I don't think it's actually gone into painting yet so if/when Biden wins he can nix that. In other news, I really can't about $151m being spent to produce (thus far) an F-104 with an F-107's air intake system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdRnvPitp0
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 00:13 |
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Ola posted:When the music started I expected descending joint and sunglasses. Goddamn that's a pretty place to fly.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 00:38 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I actually don't mind the new livery, and I don't think it's actually gone into painting yet so if/when Biden wins he can nix that. I find it extremely telling they didn't show a low speed taxi let alone a high speed one...
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 00:41 |
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Couldn’t find a hillside runway for gravity assisted taxi.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 00:52 |
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hobbesmaster posted:I find it extremely telling they didn't show a low speed taxi let alone a high speed one... "The engines are getting installed..." "...let me guess, next Tuesday?"
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 01:13 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I actually don't mind the new livery, and I don't think it's actually gone into painting yet so if/when Biden wins he can nix that. Cool, they rebuilt the TSR
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 01:41 |
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hobbesmaster posted:I find it extremely telling they didn't show a low speed taxi let alone a high speed one... If my pilot, even test pilot, feels the need to have a ballistic helmet with integrated oxygen and a parachute, I am Full Nope on the project. Look at the guys in shirtsleeves and ties barrel-rolling 707s at airshows. They already knew what was gonna happen. The guy there in the poopy suit wishing he had an ejection seat? Terrified he's gonna die in a dotcom-disruptor boom.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 02:02 |
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Cool, they rebuilt the TSR I am perfectly fine with this.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 02:13 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:If my pilot, even test pilot, feels the need to have a ballistic helmet with integrated oxygen and a parachute, I am Full Nope on the project. Look at the guys in shirtsleeves and ties barrel-rolling 707s at airshows. They already knew what was gonna happen. The guy there in the poopy suit wishing he had an ejection seat? Terrified he's gonna die in a dotcom-disruptor boom. The Dash 80 had over a year of flight time before that demo, and actually had a landing gear collapse literally days after the rollout. Everybody's butt is puckered initially.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 02:16 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:If my pilot, even test pilot, feels the need to have a ballistic helmet with integrated oxygen and a parachute, I am Full Nope on the project. Look at the guys in shirtsleeves and ties barrel-rolling 707s at airshows. They already knew what was gonna happen. The guy there in the poopy suit wishing he had an ejection seat? Terrified he's gonna die in a dotcom-disruptor boom.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 02:48 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:If my pilot, even test pilot, feels the need to have a ballistic helmet with integrated oxygen and a parachute, I am Full Nope on the project. Look at the guys in shirtsleeves and ties barrel-rolling 707s at airshows. They already knew what was gonna happen. The guy there in the poopy suit wishing he had an ejection seat? Terrified he's gonna die in a dotcom-disruptor boom. Parachutes and supplemental oxygen aren't uncommon for test flights, even airliners.
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# ? Oct 10, 2020 02:51 |