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pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


fart simpson posted:

my stonks are already up 0.6% today in anticipation op

he already spoke and is doing a boring Q&A now

the relevant details are in these links:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/guide-to-changes-in-statement-on-longer-run-goals-monetary-policy-strategy.htm
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20200827a.htm
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20200827a.htm

tl;dr -- rates stay down, goods and asset prices go up

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Umbreon
May 21, 2011
Is Jpows' speech why SPY is climbing even more after the huge climb yesterday?

e: I'm literally too afraid to sell my $336 SPY calls I got back when SPY was in the high 320's because they just don't stop climbing up in price

dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)
looking pretty muted now but airlines and ANF (don't judge me) pretty green

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
SPY was absurd this morning. My puts went from being down 35% at open to being up 40% and I was able to scalp some calls for a few hundred bucks in like 50 seconds. Pretty much recovered from my TSLA mistake at this point.

This market is really, really dumb.

LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
I’m so awestruck at the difference between the realities of the economy and the fairytale of the stock market that I’m just holding what I have and keeping a pile of cash. I’m about to buy real estate with it because at least I can understand that market.

Artonos
Dec 3, 2018
Major corporationa are driving the stock market more than ever. Mid and small cap is lagging along with private small businesses. Until consequences of the smaller businesses having trouble materialize (if they ever do materialize) the big guys may just keep on dragging everything up.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Anyone buying and holding tons of Tesla is mentally ill And increasingly rich with no end in sight

Who the gently caress knows.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Anyone buying and holding tons of Tesla is mentally ill And increasingly rich with no end in sight

Who the gently caress knows.

I got curious yesterday and had to look — only seven companies worth more than TSLA in the entire S&P.

And then a kicking myself in the face seeing NVDA up there in the top 15 and not being a more interested investor in my early 20s.

Jack Daniels
Nov 14, 2002

lol whew its over goddamn

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

This may be a dumb question, but you gotta learn somehow and I only recently started investing outside of retirement mutual funds. I’ve recently made a few hundred $ in covered calls in my fun money RH account.

Currently, I have 100% VTSAX in my vanguard Roth IRA. Would it be possible to sell that, purchase 100% VTI (minus the <$200 that I’m not able to buy a full share with) in the Roth IRA and sell covered calls on every 100 shares?

If possible, is there any reason I shouldn’t do that? Would the gains affect the $6,000 max that I can deposit to my Roth IRA for 2020?

Disclaimer: any gains are not for withdrawal, but for additional growth in my retirement accounts.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Woah my vix calls from yesterday up 100%, I am actually bought some SVXY incase BTFD happens but will use 5-10% stop.

Any of you lads caught that monster move on BIGC(aka Shopify's lil bro), I sold it on monday after it went slightly over $100, rerolled into option but held too long like a greedy bastard.

DGC773
Sep 10, 2010


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TSLA is the biggest bubble in the last 100 years. It is going to crash.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

NGC773 posted:

TSLA is the biggest bubble in the last 100 years. It is going to crash.

but when

Clockwork Sputnik
Nov 6, 2004

24 Hour Party Monster

Clockwork Sputnik posted:

It was pinned around 2k all day - isn't it just shaking off the hype from Friday? I think the rh crew will keep it at 2k at least through the week.

(note I have a large TSLA butterfly with a 2k bullseye expiring Friday so everything I just said is frankly hopeful bullshit)

^^^ welp, lol

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Right after you go long on it.

DGC773
Sep 10, 2010


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This is unsustainable.

DGC773 fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Aug 27, 2020

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

The year is 2120. The United States of Tesla has invaded the Amazonian Republic. Elon Musks reanimated head screams in its jar, for it cannot weep.

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!
You guys are over reacting there is obviously nothing wrong with Tesla I mean think about it... I... uhh...

Oh gently caress.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

NGC773 posted:

TSLA is the biggest bubble in the last 100 years. It is going to crash.

Stocks only go up

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



SPY is going to end up closing pretty much where it opened, I guess the market didn't give a poo poo about Powell's speech?

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Its substance was widely reported on in advance. So he could really only have moved the markets if he’d said something different.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

I bought into Tesla at 1500 this run up has annoyed me mostly because it’s gotten in the way of me buying more

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Squalid posted:

I bought into Tesla at 1500 this run up has annoyed me mostly because it’s gotten in the way of me buying more


I bought Tesla at 450 and sold at 500, thinking I'd scalped a beauty just before the end of time. Kind of wish end of time had come around.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

Ola posted:

I bought Tesla at 450 and sold at 500, thinking I'd scalped a beauty just before the end of time. Kind of wish end of time had come around.

I bought at $40 and sold at $165. :shrug: it was the right decision at the time

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Tyro posted:

I bought at $40 and sold at $165. :shrug: it was the right decision at the time

If you needed the cash, then it was the right decision. Otherwise it wasn't. There is no "right decision" other than in retrospect IMO. There's just risk and the size of the bet.

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!
If only I bought those tulips in November 1636 and sold in January 1637.

:shrug:

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Jenkl posted:

If only I bought those tulips in November 1636 and sold in January 1637.

:shrug:

It is basically this, but it's so hard to shake the feeling that you could have done better and that it should have been obvious at the time.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

Ola posted:

If you needed the cash, then it was the right decision. Otherwise it wasn't. There is no "right decision" other than in retrospect IMO. There's just risk and the size of the bet.

Yep I was between jobs and needed the cash. It is what it is.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
The next time I decide to not buy some popular stock because they don't have any earnings I am going to just start my money on fire instead and move into a barrel.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
You see a lot of amateur trader/investors on the web with this mindset that there is a "right" or "rational" way to play the market, if only people would just ignore those pesky emotions. Like if you double your money and cash out half the investment to preserve your initial principal and play with just house money, you're being stupid by limiting your potential upside.

But nobody gets the timing right anyway in the best of situations. No sense dwelling on it.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
It's the same argument that amateur gamblers make. Emotions bad. Emotion only thing holding Thag back! Thag be successful if no emotion! Turns out there's more to the game.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
I use the same trading strategy as family planning. Put it in, wait for a little and hope I pull out too early rather than too late.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Tyro did make the right decision, don't bet more than you can afford to lose. That being said, TINA to stocks. Just buy.

Oscar Wild posted:

I use the same trading strategy as family planning. Put it in, wait for a little and hope I pull out too early rather than too late.

Me too. Blow a tiny load, pray the losses are equally small.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Was just watching some Bloomberg TV on streaming, and they had an interview with the CEO of Xpeng, which just IPO’d.

It’s a Chinese EV company whose name even uses nearly the same font as Tesla.

Tesla gonna get turbofucked by having its IP stolen by China, RIP

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!

pmchem posted:

Was just watching some Bloomberg TV on streaming, and they had an interview with the CEO of Xpeng, which just IPO’d.

It’s a Chinese EV company whose name even uses nearly the same font as Tesla.

Tesla gonna get turbofucked by having its IP stolen by China, RIP

This is good for bitcoin tesla.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

pmchem posted:

Was just watching some Bloomberg TV on streaming, and they had an interview with the CEO of Xpeng, which just IPO’d.

It’s a Chinese EV company whose name even uses nearly the same font as Tesla.

Tesla gonna get turbofucked by having its IP stolen by China, RIP

The font isn't IP. They are serious ripoffs though, layout, dash, everything. I'm not sure it matters, unless they can somehow rip off the charging network.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Ola posted:

The font isn't IP. They are serious ripoffs though, layout, dash, everything. I'm not sure it matters, unless they can somehow rip off the charging network.

Did you really think I was referring to font choice as a threat to Tesla’s IP and business

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

pmchem posted:

Did you really think I was referring to font choice as a threat to Tesla’s IP and business

Yes, really. I may have been wrong. Let's hear your other arguments as to why they are.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Thinking about carvana, yeah it's already up 800% since the 'rona crash but I think they're likely to end up destroying the entire existing used car industry because

1: Every dealership experience is so poo poo that it's worth paying a premium to avoid entirely

2: There are a finite number of used cars at auction that aren't hot garbage and if they scale enough to buy most or all of them they not only burnish their own reputation for quality but actively make their competitors' product worse

3: Automation/heavy streamlining of wash/photograph/list processes

4: No need for high value commercial real estate

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Aug 28, 2020

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Baddog
May 12, 2001

shame on an IGA posted:

Thinking about carvana, yeah it's already up 800% since the 'rona crash but I think they're likely to end up destroying the entire existing used car industry because

1: Every dealership experience is so poo poo that it's worth paying a premium to avoid entirely

2: There are a finite number of used cars at auction that aren't hot garbage and if they scale enough to buy most or all of them they not only burnish their own reputation for quality but actively make their competitors' product worse

3: Automation/heavy streamlining of wash/photograph/list processes

4: No need for high value commercial real estate

I want to believe, because gently caress the used car dealers.

Anecdotally I haven't heard anyone have a bad experience with them... People will pay a little more for the convenience and being able to return it no hassle, not feeling like they are getting ripped off completely.

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