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Citizen Tayne posted:Why is it better? its faster and more convenient.
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It isn't appreciably faster or more convenient unless you have a physical disability. I have no problem with assistive technology for the physically disabled like electronic locks or garage door openers.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:05
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Citizen Tayne posted:My Roomba 540 just died. it only takes like 3 minutes to plug in a vacuum and run it over your carpet, if need a machine to automate a common task like that for you then you have problems
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Jul 13, 2015 17:05
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Sniep posted:it only takes like 3 minutes to plug in a vacuum and run it over your carpet, if need a machine to automate a common task like that for you then you have problems If it were possible to vacuum a 2000 square foot house in three minutes while you weren't at home, I'd agree with you.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:07
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Citizen Tayne posted:It isn't appreciably faster or more convenient unless you have a physical disability. I have no problem with assistive technology for the physically disabled like electronic locks or garage door openers. its probably 5 to 10 seconds faster. if we say you do it on average 2x per day that's about 2 hours of your life saved per year.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:07
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Shaggar posted:its probably 5 to 10 seconds faster. if we say you do it on average 2x per day that's about 2 hours of your life saved per year. I wouldn't imagine most people's hourly wage works out to make it worth spending the money to install physical assist hardware for the handicapped in their able-bodied home just to save two hours a year.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:08
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that's for one person. if you have other people in the home it would be an even bigger savings
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Jul 13, 2015 17:11
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You also need the weigh the negative effect on the dignity of other household members that comes with being forced to use assistive devices for the handicapped, when they're perfectly physically capable.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:12
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Says the able bodied man with a roomba. If it was such a problem, you could have hired an able bodied maid for a year.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:13
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I thought we had established in the very first post of this thread that we do this poo poo because it gives us nerd boners, not because it's actually useful or convenient!
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Jul 13, 2015 17:13
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Stop stealing jobs away from humans and giving them to robots.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:14
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Zap! posted:Says the able bodied man with a roomba. If it was such a problem, you could have hired an able bodied maid for a year. It is more cost-effective to spend $400 on a robot that will vacuum my house every day with minimal further costs than it is to pay a maid.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:14
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Zap! posted:Says the able bodied man with a roomba. If it was such a problem, you could have hired an able bodied maid for a year. tori cmos isn't able bodied, he's a frail halfling and he poss bad too
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Jul 13, 2015 17:14
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Citizen Tayne posted:You also need the weigh the negative effect on the dignity of other household members that comes with being forced to use assistive devices for the handicapped, when they're perfectly physically capable. The assistive device is more convenient for everyone and in the even that you had an actual disabled person enter the home, they would be appreciative of your efforts. its a great win for everyone involved at a small and trivial cost.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:15
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Cocoa Crispies posted:tori cmos isn't able bodied, he's a frail halfling and he poss bad too he has trouble reaching the door handle so the automated lock does not benefit him as much.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:16
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Zap! posted:Stop stealing jobs away from humans and giving them to robots. This is the wrong attitude, hiring a maid to mop floors creates ONE job. Using a robot to mop your floor creates jobs for a team of software developers, hardware engineers, overseas factory workers building the thing, sales people, support staff and repair shop technicians for when it breaks down after a week etc etc etc Robots are good!
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Jul 13, 2015 17:19
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Citizen Tayne posted:It takes what, three seconds to take your keys out of your pocket and open a lock? I couldn't fathom being so incredibly lazy that I would welcome a convenience to save three seconds. if you didnt blow $3k on the convenience package on your car, they may already be in your hand!!! i like having a keypad on the shed tho, cuz i dont necessarily have my keys with me when going there
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Jul 13, 2015 17:26
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Cocoa Crispies posted:tori cmos isn't able bodied, he's a frail halfling and he poss bad too My posts are the best in this forum. Shaggar posted:The assistive device is more convenient for everyone and in the even that you had an actual disabled person enter the home, they would be appreciative of your efforts. its a great win for everyone involved at a small and trivial cost. I couldn't imagine what a household too lazy to take their keys out of their pocket must look like.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:28
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hey how easy is it to install a backup alarm for a bus onto a versa? the louder the better e: wait wrong thread
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Jul 13, 2015 17:30
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error1 posted:This is the wrong attitude, hiring a maid to mop floors creates ONE job. And that's just for mopping. Add a robot for vacuuming, and dusting, and moving the broken robots aside...
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Jul 13, 2015 17:34
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error1 posted:This is the wrong attitude, hiring a maid to mop floors creates ONE job. Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from disorder, destruction and chaos. *pushes glass off table*
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Jul 13, 2015 18:04
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My most recent "smart home" woe was deciding that if I am going to be slaving my light switches (let alone any other part of the home) to the Vera ecosystem then I should probably actually release all my code as native plugins. This necessitated updating my Vera3 to their latest "UI7" software. Needless to say, mistakes were made. Last night the nonsense culminated with whiskey, factory default resets, and restoring from backup. Today I have to now re-program every Z-Wave remote and essentially audit every device to ensure the ID hasn't actually changed. I console myself with two facts. The first is that every time I encounter "smart home" concepts in the wild (at hotels, "professionally installed" residential systems, demo studios) they all suffer the same UX issues that I have struggled with. The second is that, according to my partner, ninety percent of the time the house just does what is appropriate for the context and time of day. Meanwhile, we still don't have real light switches - the fancy crowdsourced Android powered Z-Wave light switches have yet to ship.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:09
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Oh I should probably mention that the Erlang piece responsible for asking DD-WRT if our mobile phones are on the WiFi and toggling corresponding virtual switches on the Vera has been running flawlessly on it's Raspberry Pi for close to six months now 
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Jul 13, 2015 18:10
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Sniep posted:it only takes like 3 minutes to plug in a vacuum and run it over your carpet, if need a machine to automate a common task like that for you then you have problems Don't worry you aren't alone most people have a really hard time understanding multitasking.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:11
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gadgethugs posted:Don't worry you aren't alone most people have a really hard time understanding multitasking. you're not very perceptive are you
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Jul 13, 2015 18:13
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Sniep posted:you're not very perceptive are you Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of five household machines dutifully performing their tasks while I shitpost.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:14
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a good smart home thing would be a roomba brain attached to a 5hp wet dry shop vac. quit loving around and get serious
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Jul 13, 2015 18:50
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If you want to come home to a wrecked home, maybe. The roomba is like an obnoxious puppy that chews on everything it can get its grubby little paws on, fortunately the current model has pretty blunt teeth. also http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/robot-crushes-contractor-death-vw-motor-plant-germany-n385541 Current robots are pretty retarded, you should think long and hard about giving them strength
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Jul 13, 2015 18:57
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error1 posted:If you want to come home to a wrecked home, maybe. go on..
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Jul 14, 2015 00:11
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what kind of idiot carries keys in their pocket?? my phoen and wallet are both juuust slim enough to fit into the pockets of my skinny jeans not needing keys is a pro move
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Jul 14, 2015 04:54
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Sniep posted:it only takes like 3 minutes to plug in a vacuum and run it over your carpet, if need a machine to automate a common task like that for you then you have problems sorry about your lack of floor space
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Jul 14, 2015 04:55
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lol if you don't carry a purse
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Jul 14, 2015 04:59
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Citizen Tayne posted:I couldn't imagine what a household too lazy to take their keys out of their pocket must look like. one with kids
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Jul 14, 2015 05:16
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duckfarts posted:one with kids Why are you carrying your kids everywhere all the time?
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Jul 14, 2015 14:20
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duckfarts is actually mom cat 
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Jul 14, 2015 14:40
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Citizen Tayne posted:Why are you carrying your kids everywhere all the time? nice try evading the obvious point
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Jul 14, 2015 15:02
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duckfarts posted:nice try evading the obvious point Having kids makes your hands fall off? That's not how it works at all.
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Jul 14, 2015 15:09
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Citizen Tayne posted:Why are you carrying your kids everywhere all the time? - a person without kids
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I've been a primary caregiver for kids for long periods of time, infants and toddlers. They never made my hands fall off.
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my roombas stole my baby but on the plus side i no longer have to carry him
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