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Floodkiller posted:A bunch of changes just hit thanks to the tournament ending. Here's some interesting ones (to me, anyway): While I appreciate the summary I dunno why people keep on linking to the commits instead of the commitdiffs, which would let people see what code was actually changed. Ultimately a minor annoyance since the link to the diffs are right there on the page. ?noise will still work just fine for Elf 3 murderholes, it just makes clearing the rest of the level before you set up the hole a bit more dangerous, and makes the vault itself a bit less dangerous. Overall a good change. No real opinion on the rest aside from spark wasps. I'm excited for spark wasps.
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So how come faded altars weren't added in the released version of 0.17? VVV I didn't see any in all 3 of my games. Weird. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Internet Kraken posted:So how come faded altars weren't added in the released version of 0.17? I've seen some during the tournament, is this exclusive to the local for some reason or you're just unlucky? It's in the changelog, too - as well as in today's online trunk. rchandra fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Nov 23, 2015 07:54
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I do really think faded altars should be guaranteed.
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Nov 23, 2015 08:09
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resistentialism posted:Do chained zigs break item rules now or something? There was a hilarious bug where the random plus bonuses on rings were all fixed at the same amount, picked at random between 1-120something. Which is how I got rings of +81 ev and +51 ac. Also every amulet transformed into the necklace of bloodlust for some reason. Then an apocalypse crab breathed chaos and paralysed me for 6 turns and the immortal octopus died. Now imagine Mnoleg doing that to you except you won't have 100+ AC at the time. Rip ev characters. Also rip casters who get berserked.
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Darox posted:There was a hilarious bug where the random plus bonuses on rings were all fixed at the same amount, picked at random between 1-120something. Which is how I got rings of +81 ev and +51 ac. Also every amulet transformed into the necklace of bloodlust for some reason. Read fog and stand in the clouds. Or make your own 'better than chaos' safety freezing/flaming/poison/mephitic clouds and stand in those. My pro strat suggestion.
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Fog or Freezing are probably the best choices as they are, IIRC, the longest lasting clouds. Alternatively take Qazlal for maximum random clouds! 
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Nov 23, 2015 15:20
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Some other changes from tournament start to now:
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Nov 23, 2015 15:23
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I did see a couple of brain worms during the tournament. With the restore stats changes I can see why they aren't very interesting anymore. Shame though, the zombified versions of them were hilarious because they don't have a physical attack.
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Nov 23, 2015 15:32
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ZeeToo posted:
Also swamp just got a whole lot less tedious.
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World Famous Whore posted:These are all excellent. Is there any plan on reducing troll hunger now as well or is that sticking around because 'reasons'? I always thought it was connected to their regen (and I guess lore). It's sticking around because it's a big part of what makes trolls mechanically distinctive, probably.
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World Famous Whore posted:These are all excellent. Is there any plan on reducing troll hunger now as well or is that sticking around because 'reasons'? I always thought it was connected to their regen (and I guess lore). In a way I would hope it would stick around for Trolls. It seems like a really minor malus for innate regen and a bit of character differentiation, and since they have gourmand, food really should not be an issue unless you're zerking all the time or hop into a labyrinth without enough permafood. Granted, I'm not thinking about extended but I don't normally do that so  Edit: What he said ^^^
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Nov 23, 2015 16:06
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Man, I didn't manage to Ogrecome all weekend 
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Glagha posted:Man, I didn't manage to Ogrecome all weekend I mean, I'm like, the head Ogre of OA and I'm pretty sure I've posted maybe two or three tournament wins ever over multiple tourneys so uh, don't beat yourself up about it 
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Nov 23, 2015 17:43
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150 games, 0 wins. I collected 3 runes, total. Not all in the same run. I am bad at this.
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Brannock posted:While I appreciate the summary I dunno why people keep on linking to the commits instead of the commitdiffs, which would let people see what code was actually changed. Ultimately a minor annoyance since the link to the diffs are right there on the page. If anything, patrolling should make clearing the rest of the level safer, and make clearing the vaults significantly more dangerous (which is the intended result). Patrolling enemies have a fixed area they return to when not actively chasing you. In Elf:3, that should mean that even if you wake up the end vaults the high level elves won't give you trouble while you're clearing the rest of the level, but they'll also be hard to lure to a murder hole because they'll just walk back to their designated patrol areas rather than chase you.
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Nov 23, 2015 18:45
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ZeeToo posted:[*]Octopode crushers replaced with Iron Giants. Where are my guaranteed hats going to come from now? Still throws like octopode crushers. I'll miss my high-tier octopodes, even so. What is this racist bullshit? 
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Nov 23, 2015 19:26
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Guide to drinking the purple as a Spriggan: 1. Find the purple 2. Drink it 3. "gently caress" 
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apple posted:Guide to drinking the purple as a Spriggan: The solution is more of the problem.
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Floodkiller posted:The solution is more of the problem. That just means you need more solvent.
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apple posted:Guide to drinking the purple as a Spriggan: I quaff ID'd mut on my recent SpEn and got *Rage and double Frail. Quaffed again and got rMut 
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Nov 23, 2015 20:48
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It looks like someone is logging on to underused servers with others' usernames and breaking their streaks? That's pretty stupid.
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odiv posted:It looks like someone is logging on to underused servers with others' usernames and breaking their streaks? The same thing happened about half a year or so ago. Good thing i can not get a streak to save my life so I don't have to worry about that!
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Nov 23, 2015 23:42
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ZeeToo posted:[*]Octopode crushers replaced with Iron Giants quote:Iron giants are bigger, tougher, and have the same fundamental skills as so when are orcs getting replaced with orc warriors
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the @?? for Iron Giant doesn't say anything about throwing. Is there a way to disavow an account? I don't want to have to stay on top of every single server development.
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Angry Diplomat posted:I mean, I'm like, the head Ogre of OA and I'm pretty sure I've posted maybe two or three tournament wins ever over multiple tourneys so uh, don't beat yourself up about it I was not able to ogercome I had some good guys going, but couldn't get over the midgame. I'm trying to make myself feel better by playing some GrEE^Chei until I can shatter the world.
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I posted before and I'm guessing know one else knows, but as you're all Crawl pros compared to me I thought I might ask again. I'm trying to get inventory sorting working, I'd like things organized in a logical fashion rather than the order I pick it up. Looking in the options there is a 'sortmenus' feature that can be turned on and it should apparently sort the inventory and other tabs. I've put 'sortmenus = true" into my config as directed but it doesn't seem to be working. Anyone know how to get this going? Is it because I'm playing tiles, is it something that only works on console? Any advice would be appreciated
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I only got one win this tourney but it was the most fun Demonspawn mut set I've ever gotten, so I'll call it good.quote:Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations I was basically spamming Glaciate by the end of this, and with the insane mana regeneration I didn't find myself missing Vehumet for a drat second. What a great character  Agreeing with Haifisch that Bribe Branch's actual mechanics seem to be extremely confusing though. My allies in Vaults never dropped alliegiance with me, but they wouldn't follow me out of Vaults. My Pandemonium allies did time out eventually though. I had to kill my best bro Mennas The application felt inconsistent but it was still pretty powerful. Made the V:5 ambush a joke, and friendly/allied OOFs made z:5 smooth sailing.
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ZeeToo posted:Some other changes from tournament start to now: there are already enough samey giant dudes in this game where the gently caress are my octopodes
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Yeah the octopode crusher change is just another one of those pointless changes nobody outside of the dev understands. Lets take this enemy with neat flavor and make it more boring because ???
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I mean it's fine there's only like, -ogres -trolls -hill giants -ettins -two-headed ogres -ogre mages -cyclops(+polyphemus) -stone giants -fire giants -frost giants -titans -juggernauts and now iron giants. so like, 13 different flavors of big angry men. I'm glad they decided to remove one of the two(2) kinds of octopode in the entire game to make the monster list more balanced
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah the octopode crusher change is just another one of those pointless changes nobody outside of the dev understands. Lets take this enemy with neat flavor and make it more boring because ??? the developer responsible for adding octopode crushers has wanted to remove them for some time. (he's the same guy who added & removed jump attack.) I'm going to ask around and try to figure out what's actually going on here. IronicDongz posted:so like, 13 different flavors of big angry men. I'm glad they decided to remove one of the two(2) kinds of octopode in the entire game to make the monster list more balanced technically, they removed the only kind of octopode that spawns outside gimmick entry vaults. PleasingFungus fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Nov 24, 2015 03:45
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Donald the octopode complains "I hate being polymorphed"
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OK, apparently the long-standing concern was that tentacle throw didn't work very well without monsters around. another dev was simultaneously working on the iron giant concept, and so they ended up being merged; the monster is a giant so that it can have a band of giants pals to throw the player toward. there isn't really any obvious thematically compatible Depths-appropriate monster for octopodes to band with. (water elementals don't quite cut it!) it's a loss to flavour, but I can understand why the decision was made.
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Other, smaller octopodes, obviously.
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Tripod(e)s.
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Make Octopode Crushers be accompanied by packs of octobees. octoshrikes octoliches
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