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Mr.Radar posted:AMD sales are up in absolute terms as well as relative terms. Intel sales are down in both. Here's a quote from the original r/AMD thread that image came from:  Though keep in mind Intel will more than make up for the revenue they've lost with the much higher ASPs of the upcoming eight cores. This is a very small dip in the scheme of things. Llamadeus fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:just the "have disk" thing works well enough long as you select one of the raven ridge parts there help, I am about to do this thing for the brother in a few hours, hopefully you check this thread on the weekends, which driver did you download for the 2300/2500U?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:help, I am about to do this thing for the brother in a few hours, hopefully you check this thread on the weekends, which driver did you download for the 2300/2500U? adrenalin driver 18.8.2 Used DDU before installing it, but apparently there are horror stories for DDU on OEM laptops (not just on AMD, either) so ymmv and be sure to have a drive image backup of sorts Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 02:31
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Llamadeus posted:Though keep in mind Intel will more than make up for the revenue they've lost with the much higher ASPs of the upcoming eight cores. This is a very small dip in the scheme of things. Its if it goes on for a quarter or 2 than it could actually matter. Be interesting to see if its just a short term Osborne-ish effect that goes away as soon as the next minor but expensive Skylake revision Intel pushes out hits the markets. To me it seems that, in general, among PC enthusiasts the Ryzen2's are getting a reputation as 'performs close enough to Intel to not matter but is significantly cheaper' and are getting more acceptance over Intel. Especially for chips like the Ryzen2-2600. Which is interesting to me because its also known that these Ryzen's aren't all that good overclockers in general and don't hit the magic 5Ghz clocks that the various Intel Skylake revisions can.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:adrenalin driver 18.8.2 Surprisingly? It installed without so much as a peep. I just downloaded the latest drivers off AMD's website, and express installed. No muss, no fuss.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Surprisingly? It installed without so much as a peep. I just downloaded the latest drivers off AMD's website, and express installed. No muss, no fuss.
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My god, going from an fx8320 to this ryzen 1700 is like night and day.
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celewign posted:My god, going from an fx8320 to this ryzen 1700 is like night and day. Bask in the buttery smooth multitasking. Oooh yeah gimme all the threads.
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I do like running game servers and poo poo in the background, and forgetting they're there.
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The interesting thing with lots of cores is, even if there's a shitload going on in the system, the more cores there are, the more often lower priority threads get a chance to run. On this Threadripper, I can get Arnold render something on all threads, start a compile on the console and still operate the thing almost as if things were idling.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I think Dell is pretty much being a shitter in that regard :[ Except not, as previously mentioned, I have no problems doing the exact same thing with either my machine with a FirePro M5100 in it, or my other one with a GTX 1060 in it, both Dells. I think you may have just fallen into this weird area of "this is a custom SKU we ran up specifically for Dell but forgot about".
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Except not, as previously mentioned, I have no problems doing the exact same thing with either my machine with a FirePro M5100 in it, or my other one with a GTX 1060 in it, both Dells. 
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Oct 2, 2018 05:26
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Pretty disappointing. Similar to the zen+ bump. I was hoping for 4.8-5.2 clocks and expected 8c/16t. Maybe there is OC headroom and the engineering sample is not as aggressive as it could be.
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Oct 2, 2018 20:24
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It's an ES sample that crashes constantly, if 4.0/4.5 is metastable for buggy first silicon then I have hope for higher clocks still. Also buried lede here is that it went to RTG for driver development because the interconnect topology has changed.
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Khorne posted:Pretty disappointing. Similar to the zen+ bump. I was hoping for 4.8-5.2 clocks and expected 8c/16t. Maybe there is OC headroom and the engineering sample is not as aggressive as it could be? Even if it was real, engineering samples often clock way lower than the finished product, which implies there could still be headroom. If it's crashy, that also anecdotally supports the idea of it being an early sample. Can't really read anything into the core count either, they could very easily be 12C or 16C parts with some cores turned off for yields.
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Khorne posted:Pretty disappointing. Similar to the zen+ bump. I was hoping for 4.8-5.2 clocks and expected 8c/16t. Maybe there is OC headroom and the engineering sample is not as aggressive as it could be? Early Zen samples ran at ~3Ghz for what it's worth.
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Arzachel posted:Early Zen samples ran at ~3Ghz for what it's worth. so 5 ghz+ confirmed from your uncle that works at AMD.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Even if it was real, engineering samples often clock way lower than the finished product, which implies there could still be headroom. If it's crashy, that also anecdotally supports the idea of it being an early sample. I said it before but while 16c parts will be baller as hell, AMD is not going to let them go for cheap, especially if clockspeeds ramp up considerably from zen+ on said parts. For reference, TR 16c/32t is $900 msrp. Unless something miraculous happens with Intel and their cores/$ gets alot better I won't expect to see Ryzen (not TR) 16c/32t until like 7nm++
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Seamonster posted:Unless something miraculous happens with Intel and their cores/$ gets alot better I won't expect to see Ryzen (not TR) 16c/32t until like 7nm++ I think we will sooner see the TR style chips become the norm with better support for everyday desktop/gaming use from the OS and cpu itself. edit: To be clear, you CAN do it, but it's really complicated and has problems with performance or increased complexity in communication between cores. Khorne fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 2, 2018 |
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yeah, aint no way 16c monolithic would be the mainstream mask at mainstream prices. AMD's goal for Zen2 is likely the 9800k head on. and frankly if they can pull that off, it will be a massive achievement.
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wargames posted:so 5 ghz+ confirmed from your uncle that works at AMD. Now we just need some sketchy benchmark scores to extrapolate from!
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I mean have you seen the embedded EPYC products? I can imagine AMD could make a similar desktop product for AM4 and Zen2, so no need to scale the number of cores per die and just stick the strengths of the current design and make them even better. In fact I think that's probably a great way to differentiate future 500 series boards from 400 series, introduction of quad channel on X570 for dual die variants, where a new X550 takes is dual channel only X570, and B550 and A520 are just direct send ups.
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EmpyreanFlux posted:I mean have you seen the embedded EPYC products? I think the new CCX is 6C/8C though, so why would you need to do this? quote:I can imagine AMD could make a similar desktop product for AM4 and Zen2, so no need to scale the number of cores per die and just stick the strengths of the current design and make them even better. In fact I think that's probably a great way to differentiate future 500 series boards from 400 series, introduction of quad channel on X570 for dual die variants, where a new X550 takes is dual channel only X570, and B550 and A520 are just direct send ups. Embedded Epyc is, well, embedded. Probably not enough pins to do that on AM4, unless AMD introduces a new socket for it (they never said they won't do that, just that AM4 will remain an active product through 2020). While we're throwing around wishlists for more pins, though, how about giving us the extra 8 PCIe lanes too?
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Roughly how long is it after engineering samples become available before the retail release?
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Roughly how long is it after engineering samples become available before the retail release? Epyc won't officially launch until 2019 and then Ryzen will follow that by some length. My impression is that hitting their usual March launch date sounds potentially possible but optimistic at this point. Maybe middle of the year, maybe September.
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Ultimately it's whenever the thing is stable. You do not want to release something that is going to blue screen even 0.1% of the times you boot it.
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I really doubt that AMD has an early ES going 4.5ghz. Makes the whole story sound fake. It's like the exact opposite of what you do with engineering samples.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Roughly how long is it after engineering samples become available before the retail release? I'm pretty sure there are multiple rounds of engineering samples. Sometimes you get engineering samples that leak to press or benchmarks a few weeks or a month before release. But those are more like QC stuff that run full speed and doesn't crash.
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Well, a normal lead time for a chip is like 2-3 months so if there are hardware bugs that need to be fixed...
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Even if we take the "leak" at face value, I'd be extremely down for a 4.5Ghz 9900k at half the power.
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Never mind, found it, of course complaining made it work. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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7nm at CES 2019: https://twitter.com/anandtech/status/1047500761238851590
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Between this, and "Polaris 30", I don't know which rumor is more hilariously fake.
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https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?105105-Code-0E-Load-VGA-Bios Not really impressed for what I paid for this board, especially given that it's not a new board and ASUS makes Turing cards themselves. One of the reasons I picked it was because it had already had a year out to work out all the kinks. I'm doing GPU passthrough so I need a second physical GPU. Good thing I thought to test this poo poo before draining my loop. This should have been caught, and they should have had a day one Turing compatibility BIOS. I'm seriously considering going through the effort of ripping this out and replacing it with a taichi, which would certainly ship faster than ASUS will ship a new BIOS.
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An incredibly important development for Threadrippers larger than 16 cores: Dynamic Local Mode. Advanced Micro Devices posted:Dynamic Local Mode is implemented as a Windows® 10 background service that measures how much CPU time each thread on the system is consuming. These threads are then ranked from most to least demanding, and the top threads are automatically pushed to the CPU cores that contain direct memory access. Once these cores are consumed by work, additional threads are scheduled and executed on the next available CPU core. This process is continuous while the service is running, ensuring the most demanding threads always get preferential time on cores with local memory. (As a corollary, insignificant threads are pushed to other dies.) Essentially, demanding threads automatically get scheduled onto the CCXs with direct memory access. It should help significantly with mitigating any performance regression going from the 2950X to the 2990WX. When is this goodness available? Advanced Micro Devices posted:Dynamic Local Mode available starting October 29th HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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HalloKitty posted:An incredibly important development for Threadrippers larger than 16 cores: You would think that this would be a scheduler thing, not a thing that would run in a service.
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:You would think that this would be a scheduler thing, not a thing that would run in a service. I'm guessing they'd prefer Microsoft would roll it into Windows, just like HyperThreading awareness is a part of Windows, but maybe it just takes time.
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You'd think that'd be a thing that's automagically there via NUMA awareness. The special no-memory case with the 4-die Threadrippers is probably new.
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Combat Pretzel posted:You'd think that'd be a thing that's automagically there via NUMA awareness. The special no-memory case with the 4-die Threadrippers is probably new. Since Windows is already NUMA aware I am guessing it has something to do with this. I can't imagine the latencies being that high that it needs a new scheduling paradigm though.
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