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CommieGIR posted:NYPD learned from the Feds: If Americans had a justice system, every cop there would be immediately arrested and charged with forcible kidnapping. Gestapo tactics have no legitimacy, and any court that upholds them is corrupted by doing so.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:video of cops snatching people up into unmarked vans in nyc What the gently caress
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Usually the VP pick themselves isn’t told until they have to board a plane and head for the announcement. Remember the whole debacle of Trump trying to get out of picking Pence while he was airborne. This year they’re not even going to be in the same room. I’m sure the finalist have all been told to have a speech prepared for Saturday and will get a phone call right beforehand.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:04
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, the key is that Biden's campaign didn't screw up, Politico did. So like its possible Politico knows who the pick is and screwed up/leaked it. But its also certainly very plausible that they just have a thing written up for all the possible candidates so they can get it out there as quickly as possible. It's a pre-write that got accidentally put in the publish queue. That's it. Every outlet is doing boiler plate write-ups on the most likely VP picks right now so they can be ready to go on the actual day. It could very well be Harris but I think smart money is on Duckworth. Unrelated - Seth Rogan out here talking that poo poo about Israel, you love to see it. https://twitter.com/jvplive/status/1288203221257932800?s=19
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Jul 29, 2020 01:04
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Feldegast42 posted:Biden comes out in favor of the blackbagging gestapo That is not a statement in favor of the blackbagging gestapo in any way, shape, or form. Biden explicitly condemns the DHS agents as acting like Trump's "private militia".
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Jul 29, 2020 01:06
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Kaal posted:If Americans had a justice system, every cop there would be immediately arrested and charged with forcible kidnapping. Gestapo tactics have no legitimacy, and any court that upholds them is corrupted by doing so.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:09
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DaveWoo posted:That is not a statement in favor of the blackbagging gestapo in any way, shape, or form. Biden explicitly condemns the DHS agents as acting like Trump's "private militia".
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Jul 29, 2020 01:09
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The right wing sees protesters as all rioters and arsonists wanting to burn down Targets, but most people look at them as two separate things. A holistic view that sees all unrest as justified reaction to oppression isn't as common as you'd hope, but it also means that when someone says "we need to protect against arsonists" they're not explicitly saying "we need to lock up all protesters because they're dangerous." I don't want to defend Biden here, but he said in there that he doesn't like what the feds are doing now, and that they didn't need to do stuff like what Trump is doing in order to keep things safe. It's not the response I'd like, which would be a full-throated denunciation of these tactics and a call for actual consequences for the perpetrators, but I don't see in there a message that he wants to do what Trump's doing.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:10
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DaveWoo posted:That is not a statement in favor of the blackbagging gestapo in any way, shape, or form. Biden explicitly condemns the DHS agents as acting like Trump's "private militia". right he'd rather the local cops black bag the 'anarchists', a thing it's not a crime to be
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Jul 29, 2020 01:11
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Grondoth posted:The right wing sees protesters as all rioters and arsonists wanting to burn down Targets, but most people look at them as two separate things. A holistic view that sees all unrest as justified reaction to oppression isn't as common as you'd hope, but it also means that when someone says "we need to protect against arsonists" they're not explicitly saying "we need to lock up all protesters because they're dangerous." Are you now or have you ever been, an anarchist? we've done something very similar before!
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Jul 29, 2020 01:15
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https://twitter.com/tuckwoodstock/status/1288106914434281474 Cops are aiming all the poo poo they shoot at people's heads, causing severe physical injuries.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:17
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it's a big club and you ain't in it https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1288096271169773569?s=19
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Jul 29, 2020 01:21
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CommieGIR posted:NYPD learned from the Feds: It takes a lot to make me angry online but the comments on this tweet have succeeded. These people are loving insane, they show no compassion or human decency whatsoever and have no regards for basic human rights. If a cop is murdering you, you did something wrong, in their minds. There is absolutely no grey area there. How did we end up here and how can we stop it
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Jul 29, 2020 01:21
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abigserve posted:It takes a lot to make me angry online but the comments on this tweet have succeeded. These people are loving insane, they show no compassion or human decency whatsoever and have no regards for basic human rights. If a cop is murdering you, you did something wrong, in their minds. There is absolutely no grey area there. hundreds of years of racicm and white people doing nothing. you can stop it by going out and de-arresting people or harassing your local government to do poo poo about this until they can't stand to see your face
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Jul 29, 2020 01:23
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Soonmot posted:Are you now or have you ever been, an anarchist? Anarchist is a bad thing to be in there, yeah. But I don't think the spirit is one of locking up people who describe themselves as anarchists, but rather one saying that they don't like the destruction of property that's being done and just lumping things together. I think it's behind where the country is, at least people under 45 who probably know someone who identifies as an anarchist, but I get the feeling from the statement that its not explicitly saying that anarchists must get locked up. Instead, it's about saying that businesses' windows shouldn't get broken but we don't need a militarized federal response to keep things all safe and orderly. Is it good? loving no, but I don't see it as a confirmation that Biden thinks the feds are in the right.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:24
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abigserve posted:It takes a lot to make me angry online but the comments on this tweet have succeeded. These people are loving insane, they show no compassion or human decency whatsoever and have no regards for basic human rights. If a cop is murdering you, you did something wrong, in their minds. There is absolutely no grey area there.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:26
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Grondoth posted:Anarchist is a bad thing to be in there, yeah. But I don't think the spirit is one of locking up people who describe themselves as anarchists, but rather one saying that they don't like the destruction of property that's being done and just lumping things together. I think it's behind where the country is, at least people under 45 who probably know someone who identifies as an anarchist, but I get the feeling from the statement that its not explicitly saying that anarchists must get locked up. Instead, it's about saying that businesses' windows shouldn't get broken but we don't need a militarized federal response to keep things all safe and orderly. if a protest is orderly whats the point of it
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Jul 29, 2020 01:26
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SubG posted:We got here because of systemic racism. We stop it by ending systemic racism. That involves but is not limited to abolishing the police and abolishing the prison system. This too.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:26
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Jaxyon posted:hundreds of years of racicm and white people doing nothing. It doesn't appear to be **just a race thing, it doesn't matter who is being brutalised and I've seen the same comments on videos and pictures of white people getting the poo poo beaten out of them/shot in the face. It's astonishing, it's like they have no empathy or the part of the brain that's wired to be like "hey, that could be me" is just missing edit; i retweeted the picture of the girl with a shotgun held to her face and people were like "well she was obviously harassing those officers", this is a young white girl holding a loving phone
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Jul 29, 2020 01:29
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https://twitter.com/BBCNorthAmerica/status/1288071064271159297?s=20 This camera looks pretty heavy, but I'm not sure about the cameras of the era.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:31
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gh0stpinballa posted:if a protest is orderly whats the point of it Clearly not much, since no one gave a poo poo about the quadruple murder cop crew until the cop shop lit on fire. But Biden isn't running on "light it all on fire, it's the only way anything will happen," so he'll instead be saying things about calming stuff down and how things don't have to be the way they are.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:33
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Honestly, that's really good timing. Shrewd business sense, Mr. King.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:33
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abigserve posted:It doesn't appear to be **just a race thing, it doesn't matter who is being brutalised and I've seen the same comments on videos and pictures of white people getting the poo poo beaten out of them/shot in the face. It's astonishing, it's like they have no empathy or the part of the brain that's wired to be like "hey, that could be me" is just missing
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Jul 29, 2020 01:38
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CommieGIR posted:NYPD learned from the Feds: They're in street clothes. Yeah how the gently caress do we know that's NYPD and not ICE? That person may never be seen on US soil again.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:39
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Grondoth posted:Clearly not much, since no one gave a poo poo about the quadruple murder cop crew until the cop shop lit on fire. But Biden isn't running on "light it all on fire, it's the only way anything will happen," so he'll instead be saying things about calming stuff down and how things don't have to be the way they are. He's a politician. His whole job is built around avoiding saying things. If he didn't want to imply that the protestors violent and the root cause of unrest and should be arrested, he could have easily avoided implying that. It's no accident that his sympathies seem to lie the most with local law enforcement, despite their own lovely showing over the past few months. He doesn't have to explicitly endorse "light it all on fire" to focus attention on the causes of justice and the structural problems with our law enforcement systems, but instead he's settling on "bad people on both sides".
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Jul 29, 2020 01:43
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cr0y posted:This is also happening for some reason? Few pages back, but the theory I've seen is that it's an Amazon third-party seller scam where they have to have somebody order a product for it to be a verified review. So someone from the company signs up using a real address they found on Google, orders the product, and they mail a bunch of seeds in the same sized package.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:44
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I think Biden would order a national quarantine, enforceable or not, he'd order it hoping Dems will listen and stay home. He won't rattle the police unions either.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:50
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:ШАТ ТНЕ ФНОСК
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SubG posted:This is like pointing out that many Roma ended up in Nazi concentration camps and using that to argue that the SS wasn't antisemitic. They're talking about people posting on social media siding with the cops for other reasons in addition to racism, not talking about the cops themselves.
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Jul 29, 2020 01:55
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A Terrible Person posted:Honestly, that's really good timing. Shrewd business sense, Mr. King. I suggest you read the rodney king wikipedia page he's been dead for 8 years
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Jul 29, 2020 01:55
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Grondoth posted:The right wing sees protesters as all rioters and arsonists wanting to burn down Targets, but most people look at them as two separate things. A holistic view that sees all unrest as justified reaction to oppression isn't as common as you'd hope, but it also means that when someone says "we need to protect against arsonists" they're not explicitly saying "we need to lock up all protesters because they're dangerous." The feds did the same stuff to kids in Ferguson and Baltimore, right down to Obama calling them thugs and outside agitators because a loving gas station and a CVS burned down, respectively. Biden uses nicer language than Trump because it's an easy win. That's it. He probably wouldn't empower DHS to go full gestapo but that's a pretty low bar considering what the cops and feds get up to anyway.
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Jul 29, 2020 02:04
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LordSloth posted:Portland: riots
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GoutPatrol posted:I suggest you read the rodney king wikipedia page Oh. Oh drat. I didn't know.
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Flying-PCP posted:They're talking about people posting on social media siding with the cops for other reasons in addition to racism, not talking about the cops themselves.
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Jul 29, 2020 02:06
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I don't know what exactly, but something is going to crack.
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Jul 29, 2020 02:07
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Does anyone else feel like the anti-protest assaults and fascist kidnappings aren't even something Trump really cares about and it's all a last minute scramble to grift as much as possible from the government before he gets voted out? If his tax returns were to come out, and be super dodgy, if he is re-elected then Deutschbank's cover is blown and they have get out of those loans, right? So grift as much as possible to maybe repay them worst-case, or keep both the old and the new money best case. His actions over the years don't strike me as those of someone who cares enough about anything to be malicious over time, just petty in the short-term and most of all do everything to continue the con. Who will support him if there's no money in it for them? They have to know they can't trust him to do anything but protect himself.
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Yes there's definitely a more pronounced "strip the copper wiring out of the walls before they get kicked out" feeling. Dunno if that's because he sees himself losing or if he's just bored with various world events keeping him from getting his way but it's there.
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Ornedan posted:https://twitter.com/tuckwoodstock/status/1288106914434281474 And yet if you wear a helmet to protect yourself, somehow that's doing violence against the cops and gets you blackbagged.
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Mizaq posted:Does anyone else feel like the anti-protest assaults and fascist kidnappings aren't even something Trump really cares about and it's all a last minute scramble to grift as much as possible from the government before he gets voted out? If his tax returns were to come out, and be super dodgy, if he is re-elected then Deutschbank's cover is blown and they have get out of those loans, right? So grift as much as possible to maybe repay them worst-case, or keep both the old and the new money best case. His actions over the years don't strike me as those of someone who cares enough about anything to be malicious over time, just petty in the short-term and most of all do everything to continue the con. Who will support him if there's no money in it for them? They have to know they can't trust him to do anything but protect himself. I'm not following on what part of it is a grift? What does he gain from getting protesters assaulted? I don't think Trump is a mastermind, but I could see the argument that this is more him being petty and using what power against people he doesn't like, because he's shown this exactly sort of disdain in the past?
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Trump talked about violently assaulting peaceful protestors his entire campaign. He’s doing this because he wants to.
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