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mobby_6kl posted:I'm a big fan of cheep and cheerful stuff but from what I've heard it's anything but cheerful to drive. I'd give it a shot but you'd probably be better off with a $12k civic or something. Discounted and depressing.
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I have a 24kWh Leaf and while it is a fine second car you'd really have to be prepared to compromise if it was your only vehicle. And that's assuming the battery is still in reasonable shape which is far from guaranteed at this point.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:In 50 miles my options are 17 matches for under 15k and manual (it does not have to be manual, but good gas mileage is important) scion tc is basically a corolla
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Mar 30, 2022 18:57
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I have a ‘14 manual soul base, does exactly what it needs to. The six speed is actually decent, 30-35 mpg depending on how I shift. Mines at 120k miles with no unexpected maintenance costs.
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So I had a chance to take the Kona N for a test drive the other day and just wanted to chime in that if you have an opportunity/time to go for a test drive you 100% should. It's an absolute rocket on wheels and put a dumb rear end smile on my face the entire time we went for a spin. A couple quick quips. Mehs: The boost button seems sort of gimmicky but is pretty fun to use and neat to see something like this on a "regular" sports car that isn't a Lamborghini. The interior of the vehicle has a lot of seemingly cheapo plastic parts and there is a LOT going on all over, it seemed a bit overwhelming at first with all the buttons etc The infotainment system has seemingly 1000 different menus and spots to navigate to which could be very distracting The Kona N is super easily confused with the Kona N Line which is similar but the non-sport tuned version of the same car. It took me some discussion and a lot of confusion on both the Hyundai website and when talking to a sales person to ensure I was test driving the right vehicle. Yays: Super fun to drive and very sporty, I loved the quick button changes to swap the drive gears and the car can sound very fun in the Sport or N drive modes. Because I was with the sales person I didn't waste too much time trying to navigate around the menus and setup any custom settings. The digital dashboard, HUD, and steering wheel are all very sharp, the dash cluster feels like it has more information that you ever need and can likely be customized even further. The steering wheel feels great, as well as the paddle shifters and buttons. It seemed a bit overwhelming at first because there is SO much going on with/around the wheel but I'm sure you could play around and customize it a bit with more time. The seats feel pretty great and comfy in the front for race bucket seats and I did like the leather/suede combo a ton more than my previous Focus ST leather recaros which took forever to break n. Coming from a Focus ST to this feels like it will be a fun upgrade in terms of performance and power, even though the cargo space and overall size of the vehicles are very similar. Definitely worth harassing a sales person and the 30 minutes of your day to take it for a drive!
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The Leaf is potentially way harder on its batteries than other electric cars because the pack isn't liquid-cooled.
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Manuals effectively don't exist (except for Fiesta / Focus, where you should not buy anything with a dry clutch DSG), limiting your search to manual only is losing 95% of your options.
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heffray posted:Manuals effectively don't exist (except for Fiesta / Focus, where you should not buy anything with a dry clutch DSG), limiting your search to manual only is losing 95% of your options. Agree. Modern automatics get as good gas mileage as manuals. Get a manual if you want one, but it's not going to save you any gas.
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Mar 30, 2022 19:21
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Brilliant
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Deteriorata posted:Agree. Modern automatics get as good gas mileage as manuals. Get a manual if you want one, but it's not going to save you any gas. yep
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BlackMK4 posted:scion tc is basically a corolla More like a smaller Camry. It was made mostly from Camry and Celica parts. I had one back in the day and I still miss it sometimes. Not amazing gas mileage, and the first generation 5 speeds had a much too low fifth gear. Gangringo fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
The newest Prius with the least amount of miles should work for you here.
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IKillForPie posted:So I had a chance to take the Kona N for a test drive the other day and just wanted to chime in that if you have an opportunity/time to go for a test drive you 100% should. It's an absolute rocket on wheels and put a dumb rear end smile on my face the entire time we went for a spin. A couple quick quips. Super convenient timing I was literally just looking into one of these to replace my Manual Crosstrek (extremely boring) The Kona N has roof racks, can hold some cargo and it looks like there are plenty of hitches that should fit for bike rack and a very small utility trailer. We have a 124 Spider Abarth for the"fun" car but we never are in it since you can't fit groceries and stuff lol I've been looking for a more exciting do it all daily and I can't believe how much you get for the price on the Kona N. What was the situation like on markups? No way I would pay anything more than MSRP on one.
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fknlo posted:The newest Prius with the least amount of miles should work for you here. Nothing in my price range 😩 Edit: or even area of the country  Out of my price range but I'd buy this unironically GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Mar 30, 2022 21:47
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I will consider it, but I don't like Ford though. My last Ford was a 2001 taurus and I hated it I had a same-generation Taurus and it was terrible. Ford is actually good now. That was literally >20 years ago and very few people who worked at Ford back then are even at the company anymore.
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getting an oil change at a Honda dealership in Austin Texas and after pacing around the mostly empty lot I can report that there’s uh no new inventory on it it’s all used! oh and someone is getting their Honda S2000 serviced here. why doesn’t Honda make an electric one of those? newest car I found was a Subaru WRX STI with 11,000 miles on it wolfs fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Mar 30, 2022 22:28
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wolfs posted:getting an oil change at a Honda dealership in Austin Texas and after pacing around the mostly empty lot I can report that there’s uh no new inventory on it Real answer is because nobody buys enthusiast vehicles and it would be a giant money sink for Honda. Why put R&D there when it won't generate profit vs. selling more CR-Vs? Car companies answer to shareholders and no one else. I think the reason why you see some companies building low or mid end enthusiast vehicles like Hyundai is because that brand still has image issues it is trying to dig out of. No one doubts Honda so they don't have to sink money into a dead segment. e: also vast majority of low or mid end sport focused vehicles are sporty trims of already existing platforms/models, a new S2000 wouldn't share anything Inner Light fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Mar 30, 2022 22:45
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KillHour posted:Ford is actually good now Your mileage may vary 
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Sab669 posted:Your mileage may vary You bought a factory-riced car you knew what you were getting into.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
IIRC this car is one of the lowest scoring vehicles in Consumer Reports history
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Last time I was at my Ford dealer they had 9 new cars on the lot to sell. Used is the only thing they have in stock really. They've pivoted their sales model to offering a large discount off MSRP if you order a car from them.
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KillHour posted:You bought a factory-riced car you knew what you were getting into. The other factory riced cars in the same segment don't seem to have nearly the same amount of issues.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Nothing in my price range 😩 where approximately do you live? anyway all this is a lot more appropriate for the car recommendation thread in A/T.
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Neo_Crimson posted:The other factory riced cars in the same segment don't seem to have nearly the same amount of issues. Other than the head-gasket recall and cooling issues on track, I haven't heard much about them being unreliable. I think Sab's PO was just a shithead, personally.
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Head Bee Guy posted:IIRC this car is one of the lowest scoring vehicles in Consumer Reports history This is a result of when it exists in time. Had this car been born 30 years ago, it would have topped lots of the charts. In 1992 I would totally buy a 2022 Mirage. It's just that we expect so much more of a car these days.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:This is a result of when it exists in time. Had this car been born 30 years ago, it would have topped lots of the charts. In 1992 I would totally buy a 2022 Mirage. It's just that we expect so much more of a car these days. I dunno, I'd stick with the '92 myself. MIVEC 175PS, LSD, Recaros.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlEYDDngFY
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Nothing in my price range 😩 We test drove one of these, it's massively worse than the Prius in every way, surprisingly so. Also full sticker price was under $20k, 8 years ago when that was new.
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I'll be honest, I just care that it's orange. I'm pretty sure whatever car I do invariably get, is getting wrapped and I'm gonna give it a shot on doing it myself because white/black/grey colored cars are boring. and several thou for a paint job is no. edit: good to know about the car though, I figured it was just a new update to a prius. edit2: apparently that model is discontinued! good to know edit3: 2/10 from C&D wow GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Mar 31, 2022 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'll be honest, I just care that it's orange. Both the Fiesta and the Focus came in cool colors from the factory. I'm particularly fond of the green on the Fiesta. 
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KillHour posted:Both the Fiesta and the Focus came in cool colors from the factory. I'm particularly fond of the green on the Fiesta. Fiestas are also great for surviving a high speed chase through a shopping mall.
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KillHour posted:Both the Fiesta and the Focus came in cool colors from the factory. I'm particularly fond of the green on the Fiesta. That green I'm seeing is OK. Second favorite color. But most of the cars are white/black/grey and that's 
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GreenBuckanneer posted:white/black Fantastically boring, but can serve as a good canvas for some flair!  Couple hundred for some racing livery and you too can look like me... Ka...Chow.
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BloodBag posted:Maybe they weighed it with the C&D reviewer in it? Almost certainly partly Maserati spewed out the dry weight (no fluids like oil, water or fuel, no spare etc) rather than kerb (able to drive to the shops) Still the claim by the factory is 204kgs less than the article says it really is. I'm going with Maserati thought car "journalists and bloggers" would take their BS at face value and lied
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Bajaha posted:Fantastically boring, but can serve as a good canvas for some flair! put some vinyl stripes on me delorean, gotta go fast idc it's probably not a good car to have I still want one
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can you even put vinyl stripes on a delorean's stainless steel body panels
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Alaois posted:can you even put vinyl stripes on a delorean's stainless steel body panels Sure, why not. A few were even gold plated. 
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Mr. Wiggles posted:This is a result of when it exists in time. Had this car been born 30 years ago, it would have topped lots of the charts. In 1992 I would totally buy a 2022 Mirage. It's just that we expect so much more of a car these days. I have one disappointment in the Mirage, and that is the current cool colors are all gated behind the CVT 
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BlackMK4 posted:scion tc is basically a celica Details of the corolla gr are out a day early thanks to google ads 300hp F/r torsen 6 speed Circuit tunes suspension no lube so what fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Mar 31, 2022 |
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If Toyota managed to squeeze 300hp out of a 3-cyl and keep it reliable, with AWD and a stick, I'll have consider it over a Civic Type-R. Just kidding, it'll be impossible to buy. 
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GR Corolla anyone? https://twitter.com/supcat/status/1509419970278486022?t=npLQcvptA6ZS63W1Jdw1Fw&s=19
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