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No, the point flew over both of your heads because you're being obtuse.
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Akuma posted:No, the point flew over both of your heads because you're being obtuse. I totally get what they are trying to say, I just disagree.
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Jun 19, 2011 19:23
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Akuma posted:No, the point flew over both of your heads because you're being obtuse. Star Trek is not about technology or scientific progress and it's impact on humanity in any way, shape or form. It's just used as set-dressing for exactly the same sort of adventure stories found in Flash Gordon or Doctor Who. Some episodes included some social commentary, but then so do some episodes of Doctor Who and it doesn't make either of them "hard" science-fiction.
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Jun 19, 2011 19:30
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Oh Jesus Christ. For some reason I was mixing up Babylon 5 with Farscape. Babylon 5 is what I bloody hated, not Farscape.
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Jun 19, 2011 19:32
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Zorba the Greek posted:Oh Jesus Christ. For some reason I was mixing up Babylon 5 with Farscape. Babylon 5 is what I bloody hated, not Farscape. Opinion still worthless.
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Jun 19, 2011 20:57
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Kin posted:Opinion still worthless. You like Babylon 5? 
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Jun 19, 2011 21:00
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Zorba the Greek posted:You like Babylon 5? Babylon 5, barring most of the first series and half of the 5th series, is some of the greatest Sci-Fi ever made.
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Jun 19, 2011 21:06
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Oh my God, I refuse to believe people actually like that. Granted I've never got past the first series becuase it was the most horrible poo poo I've ever seen in my life.
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Jun 19, 2011 21:10
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this is a pretty good post with quotes about sci-fi, hot dog!quote:Arthur C. Clarke
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Jun 19, 2011 21:19
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Stumiester posted:Babylon 5, barring most of the first series and half of the 5th series, is some of the greatest Sci-Fi ever made. I wouldn't go as far as to say that... but it was really entertaining to watch. Seriously did people not like it? I haven't met anyone who didn't like it? 
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Jun 19, 2011 21:46
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Lurchibles posted:I wouldn't go as far as to say that... but it was really entertaining to watch. Seriously did people not like it? I haven't met anyone who didn't like it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpb1OXvNNMc
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Jun 19, 2011 21:56
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Why are we arguing over a bunch of non-UK scifi?
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Jun 19, 2011 22:36
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Lurchibles posted:I wouldn't go as far as to say that... but it was really entertaining to watch. Seriously did people not like it? I haven't met anyone who didn't like it? The first 7 episodes are shockingly bad, the script is clumsy, the CGI is horrible, it's permeated with a very dated 90s style, the aliens are bland and the opening narration is the worst thing ever recorded. It has some really good ideas, I've just finished the second series which is much better, but there's some pretty bad stuff in there. What kills it for me is the really vague tone. The ambassadors squabble like children and act in ways that would start wars if it happened in the UN. I get what they were trying for, showing the beginnings of intergalatic politics, but it doesn't feel rigorous enough for a political drama, but neither is it gung-ho enough for a space opera. If it had been made post-Lost I think it would have turned out different, and MUCH better. It would really benefit from an ensemble cast and abandoning stand-alone episodes.
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Jun 19, 2011 22:42
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The first 7 episodes are shockingly bad, the script is clumsy, the CGI is horrible, it's permeated with a very dated 90s style, the aliens are bland and the opening narration is the worst thing ever recorded. Season 1 is awful, 2 is good, 3 and 4 are excellent, 5 is ok. If you like 2 at all, watch 3 and 4, they are really worth it. But yeah, not really UK TV...
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Jun 19, 2011 23:44
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Strom Cuzewon posted:the CGI is horrible, I remember people writing in to Digitiser saying that because Amigas were used to make the Babylon 5 CGI, the system wasn't dead.
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Jun 20, 2011 00:06
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Junkenstein posted:I remember people writing in to Digitiser saying that because Amigas were used to make the Babylon 5 CGI, the system wasn't dead. I bet Biffo or Hairs' responses to those letters were good. Or at least were accompanied by reveal-o stuff about Inspector Morse.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The first 7 episodes are shockingly bad, the script is clumsy, the CGI is horrible, it's permeated with a very dated 90s style, the aliens are bland and the opening narration is the worst thing ever recorded. Bab 5 was of its time, it ran from 1994-98. This was before the big serialized dramas really took off on cable (The Sopranos didn't start till '99) and TV was generally less smart and less mature than it is today. Something like new Galactica could never have been made in 1994 in the form it finally took, nor could even more heavily serialized genre shows like Lost. So yeah, it's nowhere near as literate or clever as premium cable drama, and not as exciting as network serialized shows. The acting is pretty variable and the writing goes from pretty good to pretty poor. But it was building on what had come before, and providing a foundation for things to come. It was ground breaking and deserves some respect even if parts are laughably dated 15 years later.
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Jun 20, 2011 00:23
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Junkenstein posted:I remember people writing in to Digitiser saying that because Amigas were used to make the Babylon 5 CGI, the system wasn't dead. Insincere Dave agrees that the Amiga is alive and well!
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Jun 20, 2011 08:37
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Star Trek is essentially a non-threatening bedtime story for adult children. For all that Doctor Who gets called kids TV, it is Newsnight Review compared to Trek. In Star Trek there is never any real substance to any of the stories. Ever. Yes, they do try social commentary every now and then, but it's always clumsy, unsophisticated, and usually boils down to an extremely awkward lesbian kiss with no tongues. It's just safe, bland, escapist dross with added titilation for people scared of boobies. And that would be just fine if it wasn't for the fact that people insist that it is the best scifi ever. gently caress trekkies and their developmentally subnormal version of Humpty Dumpty.
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Jun 20, 2011 08:55
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all sci fi is for for virgin nerds imo 
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Jun 20, 2011 10:52
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Did anyone watch the Kennedy's? It's pretty cheesy but that seems to be in common with the Canadian dramas I've seen.
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Jun 20, 2011 11:03
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Semprini posted:Insincere Dave agrees that the Amiga is alive and well! Gossi the Dog has heard from industry insiders that Amiga is due for a big comeback in 2011. And if that isn't true, Gossi's master will thrash him again.
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Jun 20, 2011 11:10
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Metrication posted:Did anyone watch the Kennedy's? Did anybody manage to sit through the apologia that the BBC put with it to try and detoxify the show from all that mess with the history channel. What does John Bird know about the Kennedys?
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Jun 20, 2011 11:24
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Metrication posted:Did anyone watch the Kennedy's? I can't get over that it's being done by the same production company that did 24... Even the guy doing the music is the same and boy howdy is he just phoning that poo poo in.
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Jun 20, 2011 11:31
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I watched a bit of The Kennedys just to see Barry Pepper, "star" of Battlefield: Earth.
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Jun 20, 2011 16:36
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Why in gods name I care for The Kennedys, unless it shows Joe Kennedy for being the ultimate tool that he was of course.
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Jun 20, 2011 16:49
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Metrication posted:Did anyone watch the Kennedy's? I was looking forward to it because I find American history pretty interesting, plus I always love seeing Tom Wilkinson doing things. I watched the first episode and found it oddly detached and frankly rather boring. Greg Kinnear in particular is so wooden that I get the feeling that he's putting all of his effort into keeping his accent. Katie Holmes looks the part but could literally be in flames and I still wouldn't be convinced that she was on fire. I did, however, quite like Barry Pepper. Does the series go on to touch on JFK's legendary womanising? Would consider re-watching to see the approach to that.
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Jun 20, 2011 18:25
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Star Trek is essentially a non-threatening bedtime story for adult children. For all that Doctor Who gets called kids TV, it is Newsnight Review compared to Trek. The wrongest thing ever.
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Jun 20, 2011 18:29
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Watching the Terry Pratchett doc on the iplayer and it cuts out 10 mins before the end. It seems the seven days are up. Does anyone know if they're planning to repeat it anytime soon?
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Jun 20, 2011 22:10
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ChuckDHead posted:Well, hopefully the Injury Lawyers 4 You guys die outright in the fight, because if they survive, they'll chase their own ambulances, leading to some sort of paradox. 
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Jun 20, 2011 22:40
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Who the gently caress would use a company that has txtspk in its name? Do they end every communication with LOL >_< ?
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Jun 20, 2011 23:00
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Jawidar posted:Who the gently caress would use a company that has txtspk in its name? Do they end every communication with LOL >_< ? The kind of people who require the services of the 21st century version of an ambulance chaser?
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Jun 20, 2011 23:01
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Hmm, who can we get as the friendly face of our legal services advertising campaign? Oh, how about the actor Billy Murray, most recently known for his role as vicious gangster, murderer and conman Johnny Allen in Eastenders. A piece of casting genius by whichever agency is responsible for those commercials.
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Jun 20, 2011 23:59
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Remember they are 100% lawyers.
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MisterLizard posted:Hmm, who can we get as the friendly face of our legal services advertising campaign? Oh, how about the actor Billy Murray, most recently known for his role as vicious gangster, murderer and conman Johnny Allen in Eastenders. Previously known for his role on the Bill where he played a dirty cop who viciously murdered a long starring good cop. Fucker lured him to some construction yard, beat him up and then smothered him to death on a pile of silt or gravel or whatever. It's about the only thing i remember from the bill.
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Jun 21, 2011 00:19
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Kin posted:Previously known for his role on the Bill where he played a dirty cop who viciously murdered a long starring good cop. Fucker lured him to some construction yard, beat him up and then smothered him to death on a pile of silt or gravel or whatever. Is he the guy they chased to Australia (fun fact, people over there loved The Bill) and who got blown up when his getaway boat exploded?
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Jun 21, 2011 00:30
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Psybro posted:Remember they are 100% lawyers. That's why, when you present the details of your claim, they give it to you straight - like a lawyer made from 100% law.
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Jun 21, 2011 02:42
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"This is Eric. He was injured in an accident at work. However, because he only used a 74% lawyer, his case collapsed and he was forced to be the judge's servant. Don't let this happen to you. Don't settle for less than 100% lawyer!"
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I'm just going to post this great Adam Curtis parody in the middle of all of the Sci-Fi and Lawyers Of A Certain Percentage talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg I do hope it hasn't been posted here already.
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Psybro posted:Remember they are 100% lawyers. See if I was going to court I'd want 100% solicitors. Lawyers are only good for crazy USAnian law.
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