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Gaim was kind of the same way. Even though I loved most of it myself, there's still a good bit of tonal inconsistency when the morally ambiguous rival guy has shoulder pads shaped like a banana.
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Caphi posted:I caught up on Kyuranger, can we all take a second to appreciate Raptor's suit actor? Most, if not all, of the suit actor characters are better than the non-suit actor cast members. Except Naga and maybe Stinger. Edit: Her suit actor also did suit work for Sela (including unmorphed scenes with the shark mask), ShiroNinger and ToQ 3 Double Edit: The suit actress is also almost 40. Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Broken Loose posted:I wish these belts existed so bad I made more dumb powerup lines earlier in the thread. Those two were made by scanning my Twitter feed for words and phrases.
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The only Rider series I can think of that didn't really have anything (intentionally) goofy in it is Faiz, it had a few unintentional goofy things like one of the villains killing a busload of people to Busta Rhymes. I would also say Blade but I'm sure I'm forgetting some one-off episode with goofy stuff in it.
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I'm pretty sure Kabuto was the last rider series with a non-goofy belt. It talked, but it was very utilitarian robot voice announcements for functions. Den-O and Fourze didn't have belts that were inherently goofy from a design standpoint, but they became goofy through context. W was almost not goofy, but the Memories exuberantly shouting their names when you press the button shot it back up there. OOO and, somehow, Wizard, are runners up here. OOO would have been a pretty straight "weird mystical relic" if it didn't sing little songs about the form it was switching to, and Wizard's belt narrowly shifted into the goof spectrum by having a little hand that he has to high-five with his ring instead of just like a magical glyph on the buckle (I actually did appreciate the dichotomy between Wizard's "Please" belt and White Wizard's "NOW" belt). Also, Kiva's belt was goofy, but IXA's belt was pretty serious. Also, this isn't a condemnation of goofy belts. I like most of the goofy belt shows a lot. It's just kinda my casual observation that "serious" gimmicks ended with Kabuto.
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I finished ExAid 5-7 last night. Is Emu like this the whole series? He's a pediatrician, there's no way anyone gets through medical school THAT naive. Is this an act? Does he get better? Or am I in for Doctor Kouta McEiji?
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Aug 1, 2017 23:39
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PMush Perfect posted:I finished ExAid 5-7 last night. Is Emu like this the whole series? He's a pediatrician, there's no way anyone gets through medical school THAT naive. What you're seeing is fundamentally his character, but they start utilizing him (and the rest of the cast, for that matter) better after the first chunk of episodes. I though he was a limp noodle for a while too.
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PMush Perfect posted:I finished ExAid 5-7 last night. Is Emu like this the whole series? He's a pediatrician, there's no way anyone gets through medical school THAT naive. Give him time. The series starts very goofy, and the characters are treated with the same amount of seriousness; once it gets serious, the characters are treated with a bit more respect, Emu included. He gets better.
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All the interesting things happen around him, got it. Man, I miss when KR protags were interesting. 
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PMush Perfect posted:All the interesting things happen around him, got it. Please tell me when that happened, because I genuinely can't remember it.
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PMush Perfect posted:All the interesting things happen around him, got it. Ahh yes, my favorite interesting kamen rider was and also
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Blaze Dragon posted:Please tell me when that happened, because I genuinely can't remember it. Okay, let me tell you a tale of Kamen Rider 1971 and the beautiful man known as Hongo Real talk, you'd think that the original Rider wouldn't have much personality beyond FIGHTER FOR JUSTICE and what not Like the original Ultraman...okay the original HOST, Hayato, doesn't have much of any personality. The original Ultraman did but that's neither here nor there. But you'd be off. Ichimonji, Kamen Rider Niigo, is kind of completely banal and middle of the road. Meanwhile, Hongo? Hongo is the biggest goddamn troll in the world. Any time he can, he WILL, troll Shocker as hard as he can. It's basically his whole entire MO. Can I gently caress with these chucklefucks today? Let's do it then
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I love it when you post about old Toku, Burk. 
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Blaze Dragon posted:Please tell me when that happened, because I genuinely can't remember it. Kuuga. Watch a good man get destroyed in the course of justice. It's heartbreaking and wonderful to watch.
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Not to get sidetracked here, but... "Niigo"?
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https://twitter.com/mrfeelswildride/status/892494676778811392 Ex-Aid is a good and powerful show
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Caphi posted:Not to get sidetracked here, but... "Niigo"? Kamen Rider #2, the one that took over as the main rider of the previous series after the actor who played Hongo had to leave the show after injuring himself during a stunt. Once the original returned later in the series the second Rider stayed on and fought alongside him from then on. You could technically call him the first Secondary Rider of the franchise (and pretty much the only one in the Showa Era aside from Riderman and Tackle). The first two Riders are more commonly referred to in the fanbase by their Japanese designations Ichigo (One) and Nigo(Two). Back on the subject, Jo Shigeru (Stronger) had some personality to him as well, and of course there's also Gentaro (Fourze). If you want to bring Secondary Riders into this then Birth, Beast, and Mach can go on that list as well. Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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PMush Perfect posted:All the interesting things happen around him, got it. This show handles it's cast extremely well actually but the first 12 episodes are a slightly different show
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Nigo was also where several Rider hallmarks made their first appearance. Since they didn't want to risk their main actor getting indisposed again, they started using suit actors for stunt filming. Additionally, Ichigo originally transformed by driving his motorcycle really fast and activating his driver through wind. Since the actor who played Nigo did not have a motorcycle license, they had to come up with another visually interesting way to transform, and as such, the henshin pose was born.
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Larryb posted:Kamen Rider #2, the one that took over as the main rider of the previous series after the actor who played Hongo had to leave the show after injuring himself during a stunt. Once the original returned later in the series the second Rider stayed on and fought alongside him from then on. You could technically call him the first Secondary Rider of the franchise (and pretty much the only one in the Showa Era aside from Riderman and Tackle). The first two Riders are more commonly referred to in the fanbase by their Japanese designations Ichigo (One) and Nigo(Two). I gather, I'm just questioning the spelling (the double i specifically).
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PMush Perfect posted:All the interesting things happen around him, got it. Emu actually gets super interesting if you stick with it. There's a lot of stuff about how he changes thanks to others around him, and it's not always for the better; the show wants you, and the children it was made for, to empathize with Emu; the inexperienced intern whose got these aggressive, strange, and sometimes hostile mentors that he still needs to look up to because they can teach him a lot, even the ones that hate his guts or aren't really acting like 'mentors'. The show also spends time focusing on how Emu changes those mentors for the better as well, which can be interesting to look at as well.
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I meant Gentaro and Phillip + Shotaro but old toku is good too. Edit: Basically everyone in OOO except Eiji and Strong Girl were interesting, which makes it extra glaring.
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Caphi posted:I gather, I'm just questioning the spelling (the double i specifically). Oh, that one was probably just a typo then.
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Emu and Takeru remind me a lot of each other in that they don't have a ton going for them. They're just kinda... good natured nerdy losers. Takeru has hero worship and Emu has medicine. Every single other Rider is more interesting in both shows. I really hope Build is among the top 5 most interesting characters in his own show.
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Except Emu has suffered a lot, has had to take charge and make plans, and has shown skills in manipulating others to get a good outcome. Like I'm not sure how if you've seen episodes 39 and 40 you can say Emu is completely boring. Takeru was just "nice", never thought too hard about anything and the entire world just bent to get him his way and things always worked out for him and everyone loves him. Like when he killed that monster that was that girl's dad - but that ended up doing nothing but setting things out right anyway and the entire two parter was loving pointless.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Please tell me when that happened, because I genuinely can't remember it. I liked Kuuga and W's protagonists quite a bit and thought Gentaro was the best part of his show.
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I'll admit Emu has grown up a bit, but that's more "being less of a dipshit" and not so much "becoming interesting" Like, Parad becomes interesting when you learn his core motivation and see how that changes later, Snipe becomes interesting (thanks to Nico putting a lampshade on his incredibly silly unconvincing badass act) , even Hiiro has his little moral quandry that he has to overcome, and seeing exactly where Kuroto's priorities lie is always fun, but Emu... Gotta save them patients, I guess. It'd maybe feel less dull to me if he had an interesting relationship with any of the other characters than "That's the protagonist, so he's always involved in one important way or another"
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I feel like people try too hard to stick to their initial assessment of Emu when the show started without noticing that his character has grown, has repeatedly engaged with in both positive and negative ways with lots of the characters, and ultimately has come out of it with some incredibly great scenes. He's loving great, his entire scene with Parad on the rooftop was amazing right down to him talking about having to live with the game disease as a part of himself. His sequences with Hiiro have always been amazing and both characters have grown as a result. Same with pretty much everyone else. He actually deserves to be the protagonist unlike Takeru, who used to just loving walk off in the middle of everything to go look contemplative and help out someone's random problem.
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OnimaruXLR posted:I'll admit Emu has grown up a bit, but that's more "being less of a dipshit" and not so much "becoming interesting" Emu has his teeth-clenched teamwork with Kuroto and his clashing and ultimate saving of Parad in a very violent, emotionally-manipulative way that genuinely felt like Emu was the villain instead of the other way around. His relationships with those two alone make him far more interesting than several previous bland as poo poo characters (Kouta, Takeru), and how he might have genuinely become a worse person as the series went on (his ideals remain firm, but he's become far more willing to get violent and leave his emotions behind for those, to the point that he genuinely took Hiiro's "don't get emotionally involved" philosophy as his own at one point) is an interesting development course that nearly no series takes, and it shows a lot about Ex-Aid's writing that it's willing to say "pragmatism may be more important than just being a naive, good person" when this is still a show for little children. His other relationships are somewhat more standard, but have high points themselves, such as himself and Hiiro ultimately learning from each other (Hiiro having the standard "becomes more emotional and open to others" development, Emu going the exact opposite way) and proving how much they've affected each other after Hiiro joins Masamune; or how he pushed Poppy into accepting how she had become different from the other Bugsters by pushing her into shooting him. Honestly, Emu is not the greatest character in his show (protagonists nearly never are, and honestly, it's hard to be when motherfucking Shin Dan "Dangerous Zombie/The Man" Kuroto exists in your series) but he's one of the better primary Riders we've had. Again, he gets a lot of points from me entirely because the series is willing to have Emu become a less heroic individual for the sake of saving others, which I find unthinkable in most shows. He's not a plain sugar donut.
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BUILD SPOILERS AHEAD https://twitter.com/kYouTkaRciHb1a2/status/892605458409598980 https://twitter.com/SpecialForm12/status/892609821647622145 https://twitter.com/SunglassPri/status/892605877454340096 e: More stuff https://twitter.com/orewa_crazy/status/892606459321606144 https://twitter.com/fuka_surge6/status/892610113554456576 e: added spoiler tags, sorry if anyone got dinged e2: wtf, spoiler tags don't work on twitter embeds? StrixNebulosa fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Glad to see the evil organization is element is back, although it seems like it might be feuding organizations and the trouble they cause, instead
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I thought Hayato was pretty fun from what I watched of KIT's releases of Rider '71. Maybe stuff changes over the course of that show's ton of episodes, but he's definitely a bit more outgoing and less moody than Hongo, though that could partially be the show lightening up a bit after the first chunk of episodes.
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Oh my God, that's a plastic models thing too Jesus loving Christ, this show is either going to be amazing or an amazing trainwreck.
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PMush Perfect posted:Oh my God, that's a plastic models thing too MORE BUILD SPOILERS https://twitter.com/SpecialForm12/status/892608589709299713 it's going to be GREAT
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Maybe now I can get someone to watch Gundam Build Fighters! ...  I'll never get anyone to watch Gundam Build Fighters.
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PMush Perfect posted:Maybe now I can get someone to watch Gundam Build Fighters! Sorry, I need anti-war messages with my giant robots  Also Build fanart already delivering: https://twitter.com/T_pr551/status/892612699195965440
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GBF has a message! It's "you can enjoy childish things as an adult without being a horrendous self-important tool about it". So, the moral Gundam fans need the most and that none of them got.
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