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Furnaceface posted:Everything is bad and were all going to die because a bunch of greedy oil and mineral execs have a strangle hold on our entire political apparatus. If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure most people who actually read the most recent climate change projection for +2°C come away thinking "Well, that's gonna suck for a lot of people but at least rich developed countries will be able to handle it". We'll most assuredly miss the two degree targets by a bit but our current economic and political system is likely to survive because, in my books, migration will provide the impetus for (re)construction and also the population growth necessary to keep things moving despite the global collapse in birth rates. Time'll tell!
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:These are brilliant. Interested in doing writeups for the election OP?
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James Baud posted:If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure most people who actually read the most recent climate change projection for +2°C come away thinking "Well, that's gonna suck for a lot of people but at least rich developed countries will be able to handle it". We'll most assuredly miss the two degree targets by a bit but our current economic and political system is likely to survive because, in my books, migration will provide the impetus for (re)construction and also the population growth necessary to keep things moving despite the global collapse in birth rates. The problem isn't middle to affluent class goons surviving a 2 degree increase. The problem is precisely the political system surviving, because given our current track record, we won't be welcoming migrants, we'll be electing Trumps, Bolsonaros, Scheers and Berniers in an attempt to close our borders to climate refugees. Anyone with a shred of empathy wants to avoid this coming climate catastrophe, but the stranglehold the capitalist elites have over the current system makes it impossible to do anything or build any momentum.
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vyelkin posted:Interested in doing writeups for the election OP? I'm booked until Sunday night. I can help after that
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We're doomed but everyone already knew that.
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Conservative shitheads no show a poverty debate. Plain as day they do not care about anyone except those with money. https://twitter.com/CBCManitoba/status/1164132711881199617 But their base doesn't give a gently caress. FYGM to the extreme.
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I was recently on a flight with Jagmeet from Vancouver to Calgary. The guy sat in first class for a one-hour flight. Just seemed a bit strange to me when Warren and Sanders are getting so much positive press in the States for riding in coach on their flights. You would think that the NDP would be all over that.
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Whiskey_Dick posted:I was recently on a flight with Jagmeet from Vancouver to Calgary. The guy sat in first class for a one-hour flight. Friend if you're expecting competence from the NDP, uh, I've got some bad news for you
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Pinterest Mom posted:It's very possible he bought an economy ticket and got upgraded Absolutely. To be clear, I wouldn't begrudge him for spending his own money on a first-class ticket. It's just the optics of sitting separate from the peasants that I thought the NDP would want to avoid. vyelkin posted:Friend if you're expecting competence from the NDP, uh, I've got some bad news for you You're right! My expectations were way too high.
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Vintersorg posted:Conservative shitheads no show a poverty debate. Plain as day they do not care about anyone except those with money. That headline is slightly misleading. "No-show" implies (to me anyway) that that the Conservatives agreed to attend, and then didn't show up the day of. The article suggests that the Conservatives declined to attend well in advance, citing other commitments. It still doesn't look great, though - I agree with you on that. I also agree that most of the voterbase won't care. However, I don't think it's for lack of empathy - rather a lack of trust in the unknown. The vast majority of Conservative voters I have met are kind and generous. However, they tend to be more invested in friends and family rather than groups of people they have never met. A debate about "poverty" won't interest most Conservatives - they don't know the "impoverished" and likely assume that it's just a group of people looking for a hand out. Conversely, if you told a group of Conservatives that three of their neighbours couldn't afford to eat dinner, you would likely have a captive audience.
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Vintersorg posted:Conservative shitheads no show a poverty debate. Plain as day they do not care about anyone except those with money. They pull this poo poo everywhere. Don't even trust their own candidates to stay on message so they just don't show up to debates or anything where they can be filmed saying a bad thing. Sadly it works for them.
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They did the same thing last election and ended up with more then 50% of votes so
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Whiskey_Dick posted:I also agree that most of the voterbase won't care. However, I don't think it's for lack of empathy - rather a lack of trust in the unknown. The vast majority of Conservative voters I have met are kind and generous. However, they tend to be more invested in friends and family rather than groups of people they have never met. A debate about "poverty" won't interest most Conservatives - they don't know the "impoverished" and likely assume that it's just a group of people looking for a hand out. Conversely, if you told a group of Conservatives that three of their neighbours couldn't afford to eat dinner, you would likely have a captive audience. That still sounds like a lack of empathy to me
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yup saw something similar in the last alberta election.
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ChickenWing posted:That still sounds like a lack of empathy to me Empathy is the ability to understand and share feelings of another. As stated, most of the Conservatives I have met have that ability and demonstrate it regularly - but it doesn't tend to extend to ubiquitous groups of the unknown.
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A poster on reddit kept calling them Regressive Conservatives and I liked that.
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Whiskey_Dick posted:Empathy is the ability to understand and share feelings of another. As stated, most of the Conservatives I have met have that ability and demonstrate it regularly - but it doesn't tend to extend to ubiquitous groups of the unknown. Yeah, small-circle vs large-circle kindness. Conservatives are most definitely the former - if you're not a member of their tribe, there's no reason to get involved or assist. It's frustrating, because these people who nominally perform charitable acts use that as a "I'm a nice person" fig leaf when opposing wide scale systemic progressive change.
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Whiskey_Dick posted:Absolutely. To be clear, I wouldn't begrudge him for spending his own money on a first-class ticket. It's just the optics of sitting separate from the peasants that I thought the NDP would want to avoid. Is there even "first class" on most domestic flights in Canada? Seems like its usually business and economy.
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:I'm booked until Sunday night. I can help after that I probably won't get the thread up until Sunday anyway, so if you're willing I'm happy to at the very least edit in and link to what you write.
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https://twitter.com/aballinga/status/1164228297661788160 ???
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Wow, way to stick to your guns there Mrs. May. Wouldn't want to inadvertently hold an opinion or something.
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zapplez posted:Is there even "first class" on most domestic flights in Canada? Seems like its usually business and economy. You're right - it was Air Canada so it was technically business class. They were beyond the little curtain, though.
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zapplez posted:Is there even "first class" on most domestic flights in Canada? Seems like its usually business and economy. Business is first class.
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Canadian airlines only have 2 classes: middle class and those working hard to fly middle class.
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I like that its called business class because it's a good reminder that it's an absurd expense that's a waste of money/out of reach for most people unless you're billing it to a corporate card. There's lots of things that are only kept afloat by corporate buyers, but I have a particular distaste for products that kind of have the illusion of being consumed by individual consumers but are predominantly only bought by corporate bank accounts. Business class seats and high end arena tickets come to mind. CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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CRISPYBABY posted:I like that its called business class because it's a good reminder that it's an absurd expense that's a waste of money/out of reach for most people unless you're billing it to a corporate card. It's also a nice reminder that our society privileges business above all else.
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Baronjutter posted:Canadian airlines only have 2 classes: middle class and those working hard to fly middle class. Not bad, but a little clunky. 8/10
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Baronjutter posted:Canadian airlines only have 2 classes: middle class and those working hard to fly middle class.
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I flew business class once on United, got very drunk on lovely canned margaritas, ate a banana and watched DirectTV until we left US airspace and it cut out.
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Job mobility for temporary foreign workers would punish 'good employers,' hotel group says
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It's not slavery if we don't call it slavery.
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Reality Sinner posted:Business is first class. Paying 1100 for a ticket instead of 800 for a guy that might need more space to use a laptop or sleep between speeches isnt a crazy expense for a political leader. Paying 5000 for actual first class with sleeper beds and champagne would be silly. Especially since the NDP only raises like 42 dollars a year anyways. vincentpricesboner fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Baronjutter posted:It's not slavery if we don't call it slavery. No no of course not. It's indentured servitude. Completely different thing!
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Job mobility for temporary foreign workers would punish 'good employers,' hotel group says Lol why would employees leave good employers
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Just stop and actually think for a moment about how confident in their total control over society businesses have to be for their spokespeople to say those things openly.
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