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DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Feats of Strength posted:

Who wants to play Owen Jones Bingo?

HA HA! HOW HILARIOUS! A BINGO CHART COMPRISED LARGELY OF CURRENT POLITICAL TOPICS MISSPELT TO INDICATE A LISP! THIS IS FUNNY BECAUSE DISABILITIES ARE TO BE MOCKED! HA HA!

Get in the sea, you ableist fuckwad.

**edit

184, the Antonine Wall in Scotland abandoned by the roman forces and they retreat to hadrians wall. There's next to gently caress all left of it, because it was made of turf and wood, even though it was temporarily reoccupied and partially rebuilt by Septimius Severus a few years later.

DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Jan 31, 2017

# ? Jan 31, 2017 09:16

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:18

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I don't think I'd call people with lisps disabled.

seems a little harsh

# ? Jan 31, 2017 09:18

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

"Owen "The Only Gay in The Village" Jones" smacks to me of incredibly dumb and humourless homophobia while we're at it.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 09:30

Crashbee: May 15, 2007; Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

Spelling racist 'wacist' is a far-right thing, I know they do it on Stormfront and Guido Fawkes.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 09:36

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

DesperateDan posted:

Get in the sea, you ableist fuckwad.

I believe this is a threat to kill. Enjoy the police, fucker!!

TomViolence posted:

"Owen "The Only Gay in The Village" Jones" smacks to me of incredibly dumb and humourless homophobia while we're at it.

Also he's a "media type" in London. He's hardly the only gay in the village lmao.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 09:39

DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

JFairfax posted:

I don't think I'd call people with lisps disabled.

seems a little harsh

Think what you wish to think, the agencies and charities working with people with speech impediments, like the ones that worked with a patient I was keyworker for certainly do think it is.

And certainly, even over a decade on, I remember him coming back to the home terrified- shaking, in tears, because a taxi driver had relentlessly mocked him about it (just a joke! banter! honest! didn't know it would hurt his feelings!), or the times he would simply refuse to talk to people or even leave the house because he was terrified of not being able to communicate with people properly, because in his 60+ years he had continually struggled and taken poo poo for it. That kind of thing encapsulates the whole substantial and long-term adverse effect to living.

Why does it seem harsh to you- Because of the stigma behind the word?

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:11

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I'm still not sure if a lisp is a speech impediment.

It's not exactly a stutter is it.

e/ it's prob because I know a girl with a lisp, and I find it incredibly endearing

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:13

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

The Mail's coverage is exactly what you would expect it to be, with the expected Littlejohn parody piece. Littlejohn apparently got his copy in early however as his piece makes reference to how those millennials don't know how to protest properly and if they did they would be on the streets doing so.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:14

HJB: Feb 16, 2011; I can't get enough of are Dan

DesperateDan posted:

And certainly, even over a decade on, I remember him coming back to the home terrified- shaking, in tears, because a taxi driver had relentlessly mocked him about it (just a joke! banter! honest! didn't know it would hurt his feelings!), or the times he would simply refuse to talk to people or even leave the house because he was terrified of not being able to communicate with people properly, because in his 60+ years he had continually struggled and taken poo poo for it. That kind of thing encapsulates the whole substantial and long-term adverse effect to living.

Is ugliness a disability then?

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:14

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

HJB posted:

Is ugliness a disability then?

If you're sufficiently ugly, yes

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:19

DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

JFairfax posted:

I'm still not sure if a lisp is a speech impediment.

It's not exactly a stutter is it.

e/ it's prob because I know a girl with a lisp, and I find it incredibly endearing

Like I said, the people I met who worked with the guy were certain it was, and I witnessed it first hand to be a significant problem for him in day to day living.

I wish people had found it endearing on him.

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Of course, I am a hypocrite because every time I still find this loving hilarious

HJB posted:

Is ugliness a disability then?

Hasn't affected me much, but ask yer mam?

DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Jan 31, 2017

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:27

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

DesperateDan posted:

Like I said, the people I met who worked with the guy were certain it was, and I witnessed it first hand to be a significant problem for him in day to day living.

how bad a lisp are we talking? How difficult was it for him to make himself understood?

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:33

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

serious gaylord posted:

http://trumpdonald.org/

40,000 years of cultural evolution later.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:36

GEORGE W BUSHI: Jul 1, 2012

On the subject of Owen Jones, get your bingo cards ready because the Daily Express just printed this unexpected article about him: Owen Jones DESTROYS Piers Morgan.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 10:37

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

moonraker posted:

Letter from a irrelevant tosspot who has no public support. Just a shame he never had such a voice when he relaxed on the bench as his party leader tore up the middle east with illegal wars. And a petition signed by a supposed 1 million is not a clear show of public support . Majority of the other 64 million don't have a problem with Americas border security polices . All a big drama now but fact is its a storm in a tea cup the mass majority are happy to see less migration and tighter border controls the world is overcrowded .

We haven't had an overt villain in this thread for ages. Kapparomeo doesn't seem to have it in him anymore.

Welcome.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:00

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Regarde Aduck posted:

We haven't had an overt villain in this thread for ages. Kapparomeo doesn't seem to have it in him anymore.

Welcome.

He's scared to air his views ever since he got punched at the Trump Inauguration.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:05

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

TomViolence posted:

"Owen "The Only Gay in The Village" Jones" smacks to me of incredibly dumb and humourless homophobia while we're at it.

Owenly Gay In The Village would at least be humourous homophobia

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:06

dispatch_async: Nov 28, 2014; Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Speech delivered by Clive Lewis at a demonstration against Donald Trump in Westminster

quote:

Seeing you all here today makes me so proud to be a citizen of the world and makes me proud to be British.

That�s because when we listen to the better angels of our nature we are an outward-looking, tolerant and inclusive country that I am proud to call home.

Proud that everyone here today and millions more around our country reject the narrow, inward-looking destructive nationalism that Trump and Nuttall and Le Pen represent.

Proud of a country that was one of the original signatories to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. A declaration born out of the toxic ashes of xenophobia and intolerance.

Let us remind ourselves and wrap ourselves in the words of Article One of that declaration: �All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood and sisterhood.�

Nowhere in there does it say Muslims are to be excluded.

Nowhere in there does it say that torture is acceptable under any circumstances.

Nowhere does it say Donald Trump has the right to undermine our human rights. Because an attack on one, be they Muslim, Mexican or gay, is an attack on all of us.

So, Theresa May, listen up!

We the British people are telling you stop with the appeasement. Stop indulging a racist, torture-supporting, woman-hating, crypto fascist. Stop him from coming to this country until he lifts the ban on Muslims.

That�s because the EU referendum result did not give you a mandate to sell out on our British values. Did not give you permission to sell our NHS to Donald Trump and his corporate cronies. Did not give you permission to rip us away from our brothers and sisters in Europe and into the arms of Trump�s America.

My final plea is this. It�s a plea to all the decent people of Stoke. Its clear the Tories have pulled back in Stoke to give Paul Nuttall of Ukip a clear run at Labour.

In Richmond, progressive voters kicked out Zac Goldsmith - a man who conducted an outrageous racist mayoral campaign. They collectively kicked him out.

Now I urge the progressive voters of Stoke to support the Labour candidate and stop the politics of Trump from coming to Westminster.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:14

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Baron Corbyn posted:

On the subject of Owen Jones, get your bingo cards ready because the Daily Express just printed this unexpected article about him: Owen Jones DESTROYS Piers Morgan.

Bizarre. But I suppose Morgan is that unlikable. God only knows how he keeps getting TV work after failing so badly in the US. He's got a face for radio, a voice for the newspapers & opinions for sale to the highest bidder.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:16

Stormgale: Feb 27, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

opinions for sale to the highest bidder.

I think I found the reason.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:17

Rigged Death Trap: Feb 13, 2012; BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Baron Corbyn posted:

On the subject of Owen Jones, get your bingo cards ready because the Daily Express just printed this unexpected article about him: Owen Jones DESTROYS Piers Morgan.

Crushing piers morgan is like crushing an egg
Easy, but wholly unsatisfying, pointless and makes a godawful mess

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:19

DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

JFairfax posted:

how bad a lisp are we talking? How difficult was it for him to make himself understood?

I got used to his speech gradually, and slowly learnt that he was far more eloquent than he seemed through initial conversations because he would try and find the fewest and simplest words to describe something- even when it didn't really work or communicate what he really wanted. As levels of trust built up, and he realised you weren't going to mock him or ignore him, and had the patience to wait for him to get out the words?- stick a pint in his hand, and he would happily talk dog racing or football or eastenders till the last bell- still hard to follow but manageable. But for the bulk of his time he was pretty much monosyllabic at best, and staffing levels meant we could rarely give him the time, or regular, familiar staff he needed.

Generally, dealing with day to day life? Hard for him under good circumstances, but if a stressful event (e.g. goes to regular corner shop to buy cigs because the owner knows him well and can communicate easily, owner not there, worker is new, doesn't understand him) came up he would go entirely to pieces in embarrassment/frustration, and be unable to form any decipherable words.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:20

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

forkboy84 posted:

Bizarre. But I suppose Morgan is that unlikable. God only knows how he keeps getting TV work after failing so badly in the US. He's got a face for radio, a voice for the newspapers & opinions for sale to the highest bidder.

He generates and catalyzes outrage. The outrage dollar is a huge dollar in today's attention economy.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:23

Zephro: Nov 23, 2000; I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

https://www.ft.com/content/fde7616a-e6cf-11e6-967b-c88452263daf

quote:

For the most ardent supporters of Brexit, the election of Donald Trump was a mixture of vindication and salvation. The president of the US, no less, thinks it is a great idea for Britain to leave the EU. Even better, he seems to offer an exciting escape route. The UK can leap off the rotting raft of the EU and on to the gleaming battleship HMS Anglosphere.

It is an alluring vision. Unfortunately, it is precisely wrong. The election of Mr Trump has transformed Brexit from a risky decision into a straightforward disaster. For the past 40 years, Britain has had two central pillars to its foreign policy: membership of the EU and a �special relationship� with the US.

The decision to exit the EU leaves Britain much more dependent on the US, just at a time when America has elected an unstable president opposed to most of the central propositions on which UK foreign policy is based.

During the brief trip to Washington by Theresa May, the UK prime minister, this unpleasant truth was partly obscured by trivia and trade. Mr Trump�s decision to return the bust of Winston Churchill to the Oval Office was greeted with slavish delight by Brexiters. More substantively, the Trump administration made it clear that it is minded to do a trade deal with the UK just as soon as Britain�s EU divorce comes through.

But no sooner had Mrs May left Washington than Mr Trump caused uproar with his �Muslim ban�, affecting immigrants and refugees from seven countries. After equivocating briefly, the prime minister was forced to distance herself from her new best friend in the White House.

The refugee row underlined the extent to which Mrs May and Mr Trump have clashing visions of the world. Even when it comes to trade, the supposed basis for their new special relationship, the two leaders have very different views.

Mrs May says that she wants the UK to be the champion of global free trade. But Mr Trump is the most protectionist US president since the 1930s. This is a stark clash of visions that will be much harder to gloss over � if and when Mr Trump begins slapping tariffs on foreign goods and ignoring the World Trade Organisation.

In addition, any trade deal with the Trump administration is likely to be hard to swallow for Britain and would involve controversial concessions on the National Health Service and agriculture.

The British and American leaders also have profoundly different attitudes to international organisations. Mrs May is a firm believer in the importance of Nato and the United Nations. (Britain�s permanent membership of the UN Security Council is one of its few remaining totems of great power status). But Mr Trump has twice called Nato obsolete and is threatening to slash US funding of the UN.

The May and Trump administrations are also at odds on the crucial questions of the future of the EU and of Russia. Mr Trump is openly contemptuous of the EU and his aides have speculated that it might break up. This reflects the views of Nigel Farage and the UK Independence party � but not of the current British government.

Mrs May knows that her difficult negotiations with the EU will become all-but-impossible if member states believe that the UK is actively working to destroy their organisation in alliance with Mr Trump.

Her official position is that Britain wants to work with a strong EU. She probably even means it, given the economic and political dangers that would flow from its break-up.

Not the least of these dangers would be an increased threat from a resurgent Russia. The British government worked closely with the Obama administration to impose economic sanctions on the country after its annexation of Crimea. But Mr Trump is already flirting with lifting sanctions.

The reality is that the UK is now faced with a US president who is fundamentally at odds with the British view of the world. For all the forced smiles in the Oval Office last week, the May government certainly knows this. For political reasons, Boris Johnson, the British foreign minister, is having to talk up the prospects of a trade deal with Mr Trump.

Yet only a few months ago, Mr Johnson was saying that Mr Trump was �clearly out of his mind� and betrayed a �stupefying ignorance� of the world.

Were it not for Brexit � a cause that Mr Johnson enthusiastically championed � the UK government would be able to take an appropriately wary approach to Mr Trump. If Britain had voted to stay inside the EU, the obvious response to the arrival of a pro-Russia protectionist in the Oval Office would be to draw closer to its European allies.

Britain could defend free-trade far more effectively with the EU�s bulk behind it � and could also start to explore the possibilities for more EU defence co-operation. As it is, Britain has been thrown into the arms of an American president that the UK�s foreign secretary has called a madman.

In the declining years of the British empire, some of its politicians flattered themselves that they could be �Greeks to their Romans� � providing wise and experienced counsel to the new American imperium.

But the Emperor Nero has now taken power in Washington � and the British are having to smile and clap as he sets fires and reaches for his fiddle.

A Good Article

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:26

Zephro: Nov 23, 2000; I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Also I was drunk re-watching Red Dwarf last night and if you want to wallow in comforting 90s nostalgia instead of confronting our grim meathook present then I give it a solid 8/10. Dunno if any of the new stuff is any good though

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:28

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Anyone else thinking about what branch & job in the armed forces they're going to sign up for when WWIII inevitably comes?

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:30

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

forkboy84 posted:

Bizarre. But I suppose Morgan is that unlikable. God only knows how he keeps getting TV work after failing so badly in the US. He's got a face for radio, a voice for the newspapers & opinions for sale to the highest bidder.

The right wing hacks in general hate him. Part of it is because if there's anything they hate more than liberals and socialists it's other right wing hacks who have made it more successful than they have. Part of it is before he inked a deal with the Mail he was linked with every other paper and strung them along to get more money from the Mail. Even there Littlejohn hates him, and their tame left winger, sports editor Martin Samuel, takes regular pot shots at him.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:31

Zephro: Nov 23, 2000; I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

MikeCrotch posted:

Anyone else thinking about what branch & job in the armed forces they're going to sign up for when WWIII inevitably comes?

Vending machine repairman third class

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:32

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Zephro posted:

Also I was drunk re-watching Red Dwarf last night and if you want to wallow in comforting 90s nostalgia instead of confronting our grim meathook present then I give it a solid 8/10. Dunno if any of the new stuff is any good though

The Back to Earth three-parter was poor, the newest season was surprisingly watchable though.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 11:43

Lord of the Llamas: Jul 9, 2002; EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Paxman posted:

I've seen some Corbyn supporters on Twitter claiming there's some sort of rule that you have to support a Bill on second reading to try to amend it in committee, which is of course bollocks.

Strictly speaking it only goes to committee if the 2nd reading passes, but it's not like you can't amend it just because you voted against if it does pass.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Jan 31, 2017 12:19

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

The counter petition has gone up:

quote:

Donald Trump should be invited to make an official State Visit because he is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that supports free speech and does not believe that people that appose our point of view should be gagged.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:15

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Skinty McEdger posted:

The counter petition has gone up:

https://twitter.com/HarrisonKoisser/status/826192997528248321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:21

Looke: Aug 2, 2013

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/HarrisonKoisser/status/826192997528248321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

the turn out was actually huuuuuuuuge that photo is just misrepresenting the true scale of the turnout, it really was the best turnout

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:39

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Skinty McEdger posted:

The counter petition has gone up:

speeling is hard

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:51

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Skinty McEdger posted:

The counter petition has gone up:

"Stop no platforming me!" Cried the president of the United States.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:56

GEORGE W BUSHI: Jul 1, 2012

Skinty McEdger posted:

The counter petition has gone up:

Looks like they don't know the difference between an official visit and a state visit. The original petition even makes it clear that the author believes Trump should be allowed in on an official visit but shouldn't get to stay in the palace.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 13:58

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/826365011304050688

# ? Jan 31, 2017 14:09

Looke: Aug 2, 2013

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/826365011304050688

lol

# ? Jan 31, 2017 14:13

Paxman: Feb 7, 2010

Keir Starmer in the Commons right now making it clear that Labour is going to vote for Article 50. No hint of voting against it next week if their amendments fall or anything like that.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 14:16

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Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Shameful.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 14:22

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