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movax posted:I exited it last week, the TikTok thing reminded me how much it was pumped up so after it recovered I figured what the hell. What made it poo poo this time? I think it was this thing (ty pmchem) https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1316472054359654413 They will reportedly miss earnings by like 4% ? And to be honest I’m confused on the idea of a company stock being leveraged, I thought that type of thing was for ETFs and such. I’ve still got a lot to learn.
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$FSLY isn't actually "leveraged" like a 2x/3x ETF or options. My read on the tweet is that he is saying it behaves like a leveraged fund -- large % rises, large % falls.
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decypher posted:I think it was this thing (ty pmchem) As said above, beta just means the stock moves more than an underlying index, usually due to higher volume trading, so TSLA has a beta of 1.69 to the s&p while XOM is 1.31 and aapl is also 1.31. Its movement relative to an index.
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pmchem posted:$FSLY isn't actually "leveraged" like a 2x/3x ETF or options. My read on the tweet is that he is saying it behaves like a leveraged fund -- large % rises, large % falls. A company can sort of be leveraged ("geared") if it has a high debt to equity ratio. No idea if that's the case here.
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They mean it’s leveraged to something. Like a junior gold miner is extremely leveraged to the price of gold — if gold moons a junior minor goes more because it’s way more valuable, if gold craters it goes to 0. Knowing nothing about the company but the tweets I presume FSLY is very leveraged because they have an exclusivish contract with some big boy so they’re going to move like the big guy but more so
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pointsofdata posted:A company can sort of be leveraged ("geared") if it has a high debt to equity ratio. No idea if that's the case here. yes, agreed; I was trying avoid the use of the term "financial leverage" in my response and that's why I put leverage in quotes and made the comparison to leveraged ETFs and options.
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In FSLY's specific case I think it's because its investors are in it because of some kind of exponential growth path, and if it departs from that, they want out. So a miss on guidance/growth is super bad for a company with negative EPS and negative FCF whose only plan to return on equity is to grow fast enough to make it worth it.
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Oct 15, 2020 17:34
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https://twitter.com/Hedgeye/status/1316776733543104513?s=20 calls on torches no specific insight here other than driving home how WELL aware hedge funds and conservative insiders were about corona risks to market in february
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pmchem posted:In FSLY's specific case I think it's because its investors are in it because of some kind of exponential growth path, and if it departs from that, they want out. So a miss on guidance/growth is super bad for a company with negative EPS and negative FCF whose only plan to return on equity is to grow fast enough to make it worth it. Ahhhhh
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Time and time again you wonderful people are a wealth of knowledge. It was nice to see PLTR get a pop at the end of day. I was able to work my CB down almost a whole dollar on this last dip. My entry was not very good, but I like it long term so whatever.
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I'm so paranoid of insider trading now. One of my short put positions expiring tomorrow hasn't closed out yet (AEL), the price just hasn't been coming down like it should. No news since the $36 bid from mass mutual was announced, and there's only a few hours left before this thing expires worthless. But implied IV just keeps going up on no news and a flatlined stock. I really wanted to sell another 1k+ worth of it today, but just this nagging thought "someone knows something, I'm gonna get hosed" stopped me. But really, I think if someone knew the bid would get rejected tonight or tomorrow, volume would have been higher on even more oom strikes.... And contracts would be executing at the ask, not just seeing abnormal bid prices.
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Oct 15, 2020 21:13
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decypher posted:Time and time again you wonderful people are a wealth of knowledge. Same here. I will buy almost every dip. I'm irrational about this stupid black box company.
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Oscar Wild posted:Same here. I will buy almost every dip. I'm irrational about this stupid black box company. $$$ Let’s buy villas after it’s all said and done. $$$
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i think pltr is kind of an interesting case. projecting out the most insane, terrible, dystopian cyberpunk surveillance panopticon of the future would result in huge gains for this company, yes? that's the value proposition? i can understand that. but their contracting is mostly thru the gov, which doesn't result in huge swings, yes? like look at raytheon, up 7.97% over 5 years, well, kinda disingenuous, was up 65% till the march crash. lockheed up 80% (105 before crash). SPY is up 72% over same period... IDK
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Don't forget Raytheon recently merged with United in April, which had just spun off two companies. That corporate messiness makes it a little harder to unpack the March crash and recovery
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Zypher posted:Don't forget Raytheon recently merged with United in April, which had just spun off two companies. That corporate messiness makes it a little harder to unpack the March crash and recovery ah, i c
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Oct 15, 2020 22:52
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Yes hello, SEC? This guy right here https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/jbob8s/the_harder_they_soar_the_fsly_they_fall_44k_380k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb 
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Oct 15, 2020 22:54
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Baddog posted:I'm so paranoid of insider trading now. (words) well, you should be. the SEC isn't doing poo poo about it under the last couple years of this admin
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Baddog posted:I'm so paranoid of insider trading now. One of my short put positions expiring tomorrow hasn't closed out yet (AEL), the price just hasn't been coming down like it should. No news since the $36 bid from mass mutual was announced, and there's only a few hours left before this thing expires worthless. But implied IV just keeps going up on no news and a flatlined stock. Unless you're an insider or related to an insider you're just fine. And if you're working for a publicly traded company just ask your investor relations or compliance or sarbanes Oxley person. It would be really unlikely that you would even appear on an SEC radar unless you were moving 3 figures minimum, or have a sandwich board on 1st ave.
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FistEnergy posted:Yes hello, SEC? This guy right here Fuuuuuck that's awesome for that dude.
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Oct 15, 2020 23:48
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Hasn't PLTR never posted a profit? Although I don't know why I worry about things like that anymore with regard to share price
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MomJeans420 posted:Hasn't PLTR never posted a profit? Although I don't know why I worry about things like that anymore with regard to share price
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FistEnergy posted:Yes hello, SEC? This guy right here 
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Josh Lyman posted:Nope, and their projections for this year are borderline criminal. I posted about this in the Discord a couple times when they IPOd. Discord????
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CompeAnansi posted:Discord???? Sent you the link via PM. For anyone else reading this, there's a permalink in I think the megathread OP for BFC.
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VelociBacon posted:Sent you the link via PM. For anyone else reading this, there's a permalink in I think the megathread OP for BFC. Thanks! I hadn't looked at the BFC megathread, but I did make sure to check the OP here before posting.
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Oscar Wild posted:Unless you're an insider or related to an insider you're just fine. And if you're working for a publicly traded company just ask your investor relations or compliance or sarbanes Oxley person. It would be really unlikely that you would even appear on an SEC radar unless you were moving 3 figures minimum, or have a sandwich board on 1st ave. I have zero insider knowledge. Worried the people on the other side of the trade do, because the option isn't decaying. So didn't double and triple down today. Will find out tomorrow....
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How about that, HYLN finally generating a headline.
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Chad Sexington posted:How about that, HYLN finally generating a headline. Yep too bad it was immediately drowned out by the bad news. Goldman announced a PT of $22 and then a few hours later it became public knowledge that registered warrants need to be filled by 10/22. Warrants are trading at $12 and redemption costs 11.50, so that means for the next week there's going to be a ton of downward pressure towards 23.50. Or lower if the common price keeps falling. 99% of the retail market doesn't understand SPAC warrants or PIPEs. It's a decent put opportunity, but you're gambling that HYLN won't announce anything in the next week. They've been totally silent and it's making their retail investors insane.
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FistEnergy posted:99% of the retail market doesn't understand SPAC warrants or PIPEs.
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Re: PLTR Their revenue is at least increasing where they should turn a profit eventually, right? Their revenue is up 46% year over year.
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dougdrums posted:Anyone willing to write up an overview cause I can't say I really understand them. https://www.reddit.com/r/SPACs/comments/icya8v/a_beginners_faq_guide_to_spac_warrants/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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decypher posted:Re: PLTR There's a lot of companies to bet money on, and a lot of them are Bad Guys, but PLTR is on that top level along with the defense contractors. Don't try to make money betting on human suffering and universal surveillance IMO
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I’m mad at myself for being greedy and holding out for a 100% gain instead of a 90% gain before earnings and now have nothing, but I am more mad at Dave & Busters for not believing in themselves as much as I did.
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Folks, what should I hold this weekend, if anything.
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FistEnergy posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/SPACs/comments/icya8v/a_beginners_faq_guide_to_spac_warrants/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 
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Toalpaz posted:Folks, what should I hold this weekend, if anything. TOS desktop app was freaking out and using all my CPU so I figured that means I shouldn't do anything today / hold anything over the weekend, it's a sign
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MomJeans420 posted:TOS desktop app was freaking out and using all my CPU so I figured that means I shouldn't do anything today / hold anything over the weekend, it's a sign Don’t you dare right click on the wrong thing.
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Baddog posted:I have zero insider knowledge. Worried the people on the other side of the trade do, because the option isn't decaying. So didn't double and triple down today. It was bullshit paranoia, the bids went to zero pretty quickly this morning. Doh, missed out on money.
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This week really wrecked me. I’ve got to get my head right for next week or stay out the game.
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