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Micromancer posted:Game is in a good place right now. We're flush with content and income in Delve, war is on the horizon so that's going to be cool. Triglavian poo poo is fun to use. Sub up and get those rewards. Shitpost in Elysium and you'll get a bunch more info on other things too. War is on the horizon? Care to elaborate or will I found out when I get moved from vacationers?
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at a more systemic level, the npc interaction in this game is so poo poo it encourages people to program it.
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May 9, 2019 17:36
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Loky11 posted:at a more systemic level, the npc interaction in this game is so poo poo it encourages people to program it. it's stuff that was hacked together as a minimum viable product sixteen years ago and barely updated since
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May 9, 2019 17:38
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Grapefist posted:War is on the horizon? Care to elaborate or will I found out when I get moved from vacationers? I'm just a line member with no real info other than I attend firesides and listen to people who have to go to space meetings say things like "You really want to train FAXes right now." and "Start saving money, get some liquid and hold it." It's part of why I'm on a big push to get my stupid loan completed 2 months early.
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Wibla posted:No poo poo. Its pissing me off. CCP: 99% of our players quit unless we get them hooked up with other player groups because that is the solitary thing about our game that is good Also CCP: Sure, let's entertain the idea of punishing people who make player groups work by holding them responsible for others' behavior Grapefist posted:War is on the horizon? Care to elaborate or will I found out when I get moved from vacationers? We're doing long-distance war against NC & PL renters. Which might be why reddit has gotten stirred up about all the botters in <list of alliances that are not NCPL renters>
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Micromancer posted:I'm just a line member with no real info other than I attend firesides and listen to people who have to go to space meetings say things like "You really want to train FAXes right now." and "Start saving money, get some liquid and hold it." loans can get you Nolak'd :dagger:
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May 9, 2019 17:43
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Loky11 posted:loans can get you Nolak'd They can, but as 100% of my income comes from ice and injector sales, no more so than anyone else. It's not my fault CCP decided to give away 1.25m SP to anyone that bothers logging in for 16 days in a row. This event is going to singlehandedly finance around a third of my Dagon.
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May 9, 2019 17:54
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Micromancer posted:They can, but as 100% of my income comes from ice and injector sales, no more so than anyone else. It's not my fault CCP decided to give away 1.25m SP to anyone that bothers logging in for 16 days in a row. This event is going to singlehandedly finance around a third of my Dagon. I randomly got the urge to login, after years of not playing, 1 day too late for the 1m SP 
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May 9, 2019 18:00
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Grapefist posted:I randomly got the urge to login, after years of not playing, 1 day too late for the 1m SP send in a petition along the lines of "I heard about the event and came back for it, but was one day too late. can you help me out?" they bend over backwards for that stuff, especially if you paid money
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May 9, 2019 18:08
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Loky11 posted:loans can get you Nolak'd HA! That's funny! That dude was crying all sorts of tears on twitter.
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May 9, 2019 19:37
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Klyith posted:
I get what you are saying in regards to botting, but I think there is room for holding alliances responsible for some of their player’s behavior. For example, if an alliance’s leadership orders others to hack other player’s accounts, or conduct DDS attacks, or purposefully cheat on a large scale, then yes... absolutely hold them accountable.
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May 9, 2019 19:56
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ZombieLenin posted:I get what you are saying in regards to botting, but I think there is room for holding alliances responsible for some of their player’s behavior. what. That isn't what holding people responsible for other people's actions means.
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May 9, 2019 20:03
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ZombieLenin posted:I get what you are saying in regards to botting, but I think there is room for holding alliances responsible for some of their player’s behavior. in that case you would be holding an alliance's leadership responsible for that alliance leadership's action: telling other people to do illegal stuff or cheat in game. telling people to do it is an action.
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May 9, 2019 20:04
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Man, what a great day. Truly, it is the essential Eve experience to be satisfied by a graph.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Man, what a great day. Truly, it is the essential Eve experience to be satisfied by a graph. I want to make fun of you for this, but you're goddamn right.
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May 9, 2019 23:31
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I guess it's time for summer war  
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Wibla posted:I guess it's time for summer war Post your source
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chupacabraTERROR posted:Post your source Mittani hurf pinged it about half an hour ago. We get more details on Saturday.
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May 10, 2019 01:04
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I will never tire of the Pikachu Army Hell March War Announcement
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May 10, 2019 01:33
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CainFortea posted:what. Please. It totally is. Thats like saying Charles Manson’s murder conviction wasn’t about holding Charles Manson responsible for the actions of his family.
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May 10, 2019 01:35
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ergo, we can conclude that running a bot for a video game is equivalent to killing nine people while having a face swastika
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ZombieLenin posted:Please. It totally is. Thats like saying Charles Manson’s murder conviction wasn’t about holding Charles Manson responsible for the actions of his family. Okay but you're not holding Charles Mansion responsible for The Cleveland Torso Murderer.
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Rutibex posted:Carriers are cheap as dirt in 1DQ. If you can sell your Archon in low sec you can buy a Thanatos or Nidhogger in 1DQ and end up with a couple hundred million isk in the process. whats the risk factor in flipping capitals between null and low? will i get in trouble for exhausting the goon capital supply to make a quick buck? am i a moron?
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NavyBlue posted:whats the risk factor in flipping capitals between null and low? Exporting capitals is not wise. Especially dreads.
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NavyBlue posted:whats the risk factor in flipping capitals between null and low? I'm pretty sure exporting super carriers and titans is forbidden and will get you kicked from the alliance. I don't know about regular capitals. You might be able to make a buck or two exporting Nidhoggurs, they go for like 750-800m isk in 1dq but in low sec can sell for 1,200m+ isk. But that's assuming you can find a buyer in the rear end end of nowhere.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:ergo, we can conclude that running a bot for a video game is equivalent to killing nine people while having a face swastika https://zkillboard.com/related/30002914/201905100100/ snuff doing our part to stop the menace some of them will auto accept fleet invites if the botter forgets to turn off that swanky feature
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ZombieLenin posted:I get what you are saying in regards to botting, but I think there is room for holding alliances responsible for some of their player’s behaviour. You are so right CCP does need to hold alliance leadership responsible for botting in their alliance. But only if they openly promote it. There was some threads on Reddit about alliances and corps where advertising botting and giving suggest fits and links to the bot programs. In this case the alliance/corp needs to be banned. Now I have played Eve since 2010 but I am not in GoonWaffe so I don't know what your stance on botting is, but I get the impression that is negative But for CCP to start holding alliance leadership responsible for botting that goes on that they know nothing about. Its impossible to know what every member is up to. Is just wrong. If CCP wants to down that road all I can see ahead is trouble....
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tossing an idea out because i want to know if its good or not: rare HS sigs that dont need to be scanned, drop stupidly good loot, but concord will not save you when you are in one. shooting someone in a sig gets you a suspect timer and killing someone generates kill rights. Preferably they would be designed in a way that could be run by a single player but would still take a long time to run, maybe by delaying spawn waves. Players would not get a quick in and out on the loot even if they bring a fleet so they will have to defend the location so that others do not steal the site from them. in short this would create more pvp content, i think in the longer run solo players would realize that they need to be in a group to do well, so this would push them into joining an active corp. the player retention rate of players that play solo is way lower than players that join groups, so this would be good for the game.
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ZombieLenin posted:Please. It totally is. Thats like saying Charles Manson’s murder conviction wasn’t about holding Charles Manson responsible for the actions of his family. you're retarded shut up
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Came home from work to find the best Directorbot backlog in the last 6 months. Super stoked for the Fireside this Sat.
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Last time there was a war I wasn't into trading so I'm not entirely sure about something. Will I get in trouble profiting off of super cap modules during a war time? Concord Plates, Syndicate Damage Controls that sort of thing?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Exporting capitals is not wise. Especially dreads. Not to mention if you are in goons and get caught doing it, things won’t end well for you. Rutibex posted:I'm pretty sure exporting super carriers and titans is forbidden and will get you kicked from the alliance. I don't know about regular capitals. You might be able to make a buck or two exporting Nidhoggurs, they go for like 750-800m isk in 1dq but in low sec can sell for 1,200m+ isk. But that's assuming you can find a buyer in the rear end end of nowhere. Pretty sure it is against the rules too, not that you couldn’t get away with selling something you originally bought in Delve in low-sec now and then, but that is wayyyy different than purposefully exporting. And you are correct I think, to sell the carriers with any speed, or to sell the dreads to someone who isn’t planning on turning them around and using them on goons in Delve, you are going to have to move them annoyingly far—even with JC5. So to really make money you would need multiple cap pilots to circumvent jump fatigue. Edit I have to say, as awesome as Delve is, its pretty lovely for importing or exporting anything. For example, I have a jump freighter alt and its so loving annoying trying to use her to move poo poo to and from Delve, I basically always use ITL. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 15:51 on May 10, 2019 |
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Rutibex posted:Last time there was a war I wasn't into trading so I'm not entirely sure about something. Will I get in trouble profiting off of super cap modules during a war time? Concord Plates, Syndicate Damage Controls that sort of thing? The only things we really care about are bulk ore sales specifically to hostiles (exporting to Jita for general sale is OK, but please try to find a delve buyer first,) and capital + supercapital hulls. Everything else is fine.
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Rutibex posted:Last time there was a war I wasn't into trading so I'm not entirely sure about something. Will I get in trouble profiting off of super cap modules during a war time? Concord Plates, Syndicate Damage Controls that sort of thing? You're both allowed and encouraged to import war supplies and sell at a markup. The only thing that will get you in trouble is if you clear our market or our staging market of key items and relist them (e.g. just buying all the concord plates on the 1dq market and relisting at twice the price). If you import stuff and list it at hilarious prices the way that gets dealt with is generally someone else undercuts you at a reasonable price just looking to make money, or the alliance (or aryth or I) start doing it if the private importers don't act quick enough.
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Wibla posted:
holy moly are there some names on here i have not heard in a long time hell yeah ultima ratio
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Wibla posted:
I'm surprised we aren't on there just given our size and age.
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I'm not. Besides a few loud examples, botting isn't as prevalent in our alliance as people like to think it is.
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CainFortea posted:I'm not. Besides a few loud examples, botting isn't as prevalent in our alliance as people like to think it is. yeah but we're so big i would have expected us to make it on that list because that list is based on absolute number of botters banned, i.e. the bigger your alliance is the less percentage of your alliance needs to get caught botting to make the list not being on that list even given our size and age means we're clean as all loving hell
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evilweasel posted:yeah but we're so big i would have expected us to make it on that list because that list is based on absolute number of botters banned, i.e. the bigger your alliance is the less percentage of your alliance needs to get caught botting to make the list 
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evilweasel posted:yeah but we're so big i would have expected us to make it on that list because that list is based on absolute number of botters banned, i.e. the bigger your alliance is the less percentage of your alliance needs to get caught botting to make the list My favorite rebuttal for this point is something along the lines of "goons are actually botting A LOT but they aren't getting caught." This them saying that we're somehow drastically more competent at, well, anything, compared to the rest of the game.
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