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TheFluff posted:I haven't put any heatsinks on the VRM's or the VRAM yet either, but honestly it might not be needed at all. I was somewhat concerned about the VRM's on the "wrong" side of the GPU die since they don't have any airflow from the Kraken's fan, but it really doesn't seem to be a problem - the card's VRM temperature monitoring says 63C has been the max so far (I've seen 70C on the stock cooler), and while I don't know which power stage it's measuring, the no-airflow power stages haven't been uncomfortably hot to the touch at least. The VRM is honestly so overbuilt that this really doesn't surprise me. I'm somewhat more concerned about the VRAM though, since it doesn't have temperature monitoring and is mounted under the G12 bracket so it's hard to get airflow to. Might try to figure out some janky rear end ziptie fan mount for that in the coming days. It's hard to mount heatsinks on it since the mounting bracket is in the way. You really don't need to worry about the VRMs. Not only are they overbuilt, as you say, but they're specced out to something silly like 110C. They need barely any airflow to be perfectly fine. The VRAM is potentially a different issue, as GDDR6 can get a bit hot. If you search Amazon/eBay for low-profile RAM heatsinks, you may be able to find some that fit under the mounting bracket. If not, zip-tieing a low-RPM fan in their general direction is probably sufficient. TheFluff posted:I installed CAM for fan/pump speed control but eeeh, I'd rather avoid it and just use Argus monitor instead. It's annoying that you can't control the pump speed without their special software, but that's what I get for buying without bewaring and I can't return it now. Think I'll hook up the radiator fans to a motherboard fan header tomorrow, just leave the pump at 100% and uninstall CAM. Leaving the pump at 100% and just dicking with the fan speeds is the best way to go, yeah. Most pumps don't get appreciably quieter scaling down from like 100% to 50%, and anything below that is asking for trouble anyhow, so you might as well just leave it at the 100% it's designed to run at in the first place.
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I'm seeing a bunch of 'cheap' quadro plex units on ebay all older GPUs. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-Quadro-Plex-P375-System-With-2-Quadro-FX-5600-Cards/133240210574?hash=item1f05bc448e:g:z0UAAOSw5yJdBWjL What were these used for? Can you swap out the cards for modern cards? Still, what commercial software can you use these with or were they mostly used with proprietary alien software in Area 51?
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Shaocaholica posted:I'm seeing a bunch of 'cheap' quadro plex units on ebay all older GPUs. Per Google they're eGPUs for render farms. Considering their age and use of a specialized connector to hook up to a computer I doubt they're good for anything, unless you want what was thousands of dollars of hardware for a collection / conversation piece.
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Shaocaholica posted:I'm seeing a bunch of 'cheap' quadro plex units on ebay all older GPUs. Dug up the manual for one of the models: https://la.nvidia.com/docs/CP/44809/Quadro_Plex_User_Guide.pdf
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Shaocaholica posted:I'm seeing a bunch of 'cheap' quadro plex units on ebay all older GPUs. Probably rendering farms, like animation or 3d movie effects. IIRC Pixar had a render workstation on every employee's desk with stuff like that, during the day the employees used the stack of video cards to do real time rendering for what they were working on, and at night they auto switched over to running a distributed farm for rendering the movie. It's a video card from 2008 so it's worth jack poo poo.
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Shaocaholica posted:I'm seeing a bunch of 'cheap' quadro plex units on ebay all older GPUs. Is that...a BCN connector on the back? 
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You mean BNC? That’s a common industrial connector for serial data and just rando switching.
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DrDork posted:Is that...a BCN connector on the back? mmmm og gsync 
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Delta-Wye posted:mmmm og gsync I think those were used to sync multiple GPUs in different systems to a global clock so you can have something like 16x4k tiled projectors driven by 16 different machines and all of their refreshes are synced to a master system so there's no 'tearing' if you will across projectors. I've seen these for dome projections for theme park rides and stuff like that.
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Shaocaholica posted:I think those were used to sync multiple GPUs in different systems to a global clock so you can have something like 16x4k tiled projectors driven by 16 different machines and all of their refreshes are synced to a master system so there's no 'tearing' if you will across projectors. I've seen these for dome projections for theme park rides and stuff like that. Yup, the BNC was a clock input to synchronize the whole system. I think nvidia calls it 'quadro sync' now, and g-sync is a related but different thing.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Got my new machine put together: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite, Sapphire RX 5700 XT Nitro+ with 32 gig of ram & Win 10. Apologies for the belated reply/update: Flashed my motherboard to the newest version, set the GPU bios switch to the third option (which enables switching bios in windows) and rebooted. Installed Sapphire Trixx and selected Primary Bios while in Win 10, rebooted again and everything is currently good. Still have to try this out in Linux but it's progress for now. :-)
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As far as lo profile cards that would fit into an SFF optiplex et al, is there any competitive option from AMD or am I looking really at 1030/1050/ti only at this point ive got my own w a 1050ti in it but i made that 2 years ago e: i just dont really want to pay what im seeing for prices for, at this point, old poo poo Worf fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVY5CjEC3W4 very hot, not thicc etc
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Statutory Ape posted:As far as lo profile cards that would fit into an SFF optiplex et al, is there any competitive option from AMD or am I looking really at 1030/1050/ti only at this point I’m also in the market for a low profile gaming GPU as well but I’m curious what’s available at the top end there always seems to be no market for these.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Oh Raja, you so silly: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-xe-rumors-development-reportedly-stagnating-and-efficiency-worse-than-its-competitors.html Really the last point - drivers - is what I've been most skeptical on when any 'new' player enters the gaming GPU market. GPU drivers are...hard. Really, really hard, and that's for established architectures. That has been my #1 concern if/when Intel releases this.
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Shaocaholica posted:I’m also in the market for a low profile gaming GPU as well but I’m curious what’s available at the top end there always seems to be no market for these. I was asking for an upgrade for a 1050ti in a SFF a couple months ago and the result was sticking with the 1050 :/
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So my brother's GTX 760 is having a hard time trying to do anything at the moment and it is crashing alot. Is there anything that is within the $250 for a replacement card that would be a boost in performance for him? He mostly plays in 1080p.
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Whiskey A Go Go! posted:So my brother's GTX 760 is having a hard time trying to do anything at the moment and it is crashing alot. Is there anything that is within the $250 for a replacement card that would be a boost in performance for him? He mostly plays in 1080p. The 1660 or 1660 Super should be available around that price and would probably crank out double the framerate in many games at the same settings. A cheaper alternative would be a RX 580 or something like that I guess but they draw a lot more power and doesn't reach the same performance.
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Half height card selection has always sucked, which is why the new gaming SFF cases from the last couple years support real video cards with risers to rotate the card 90°.Whiskey A Go Go! posted:So my brother's GTX 760 is having a hard time trying to do anything at the moment and it is crashing alot. Is there anything that is within the $250 for a replacement card that would be a boost in performance for him? He mostly plays in 1080p. Literally anything. 1660 supers are $230 and would be a huge upgrade. But a 1650ti would also be an upgrade, or a bargain-bin 580 (here's one for $160). Whenever AMD releases their 5500 & 5600 (january?) that might be a good $200 or sub-$200 option. If the rest of the system is the same vintage as a 760 the CPU is going to bottleneck the 1660 super. But the card would be decent if moved into a new system. The cheap sub-200 cards are better matched to a 2013 CPU, so if he's not going to do a full upgrade any time soon he might as well save some bucks. edit for alternate possibility: open up the 760 and re-paste it. On a card that old the problems might be from the thermal compound being dry dust from age. That might keep what he's got running so he can plan an upgrade budget without having to buy something right now. double edit: TheFluff posted:A cheaper alternative would be a RX 580 or something like that I guess but they draw a lot more power Unless the problem is actually that the PSU is from the same 2013 era and is on the way out. Klyith fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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taqueso posted:I was asking for an upgrade for a 1050ti in a SFF a couple months ago and the result was sticking with the 1050 :/ What’s your SFF case?
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HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF
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You can get SFF 1650 but that's about it. Some quadriceps cards and Radeon pro cards get similarly or more powerful but they're crazy expensive. Since nobody makes SFF anymore and the GT 1030 doesn't do NVENC the 1050 holds its value.
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charity rereg posted:quadriceps cards Beefiest cards around.
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taqueso posted:HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF Just measure things first. edit: actually nvm it has a 240w PSU, putting any decent video card in it would probably blow it up. Cheap office-grade PCs are not gaming boxes and can't really be made into one. Klyith fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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charity rereg posted:You can get SFF 1650 but that's about it. Some quadriceps cards and Radeon pro cards get similarly or more powerful but they're crazy expensive. Since nobody makes SFF anymore and the GT 1030 doesn't do NVENC the 1050 holds its value. AMD over here rehashing bi-cep tech still also that typo/autocorrect fuckup made me irrationally happy rn definitely in the workday doldrums Klyith posted:
i mean, i have a nearly identical setup already- i wasnt asking to "get into" the game, im just trying to make 2-3 more of these and was curious if anything had changed in two years mine runs every game out there on better than console settings and cost less. also 240w is more than enough for an i5/16/and any 75w card in my experience E2: lol nevermind i just saw you crossed out poo poo about dremel and full power cards, yeah that wont happen. and i dont think thats what we were talking about per se. Worf fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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I'm totally into hacking things up and DIY but this PC is more a dev workstation than a gaming PC so  not worth it versus having a nice clean case. The card I have is dying (bought it used and it's been doing this almost the whole time I've owned it :/) and the screen goes blank occasionally so I was looking to see if there was anything better if I was to replace it. Now I'm just waiting for it to die for real since the blank screen thing is mostly not an issue (off for a second once or twice a day) when I force the card to high power mode.
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I’ll have to check the PSU on my dell USFF but drat it I’ll blow it up if I have to.
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Why worry about it until something goes wrong? Just jump clear at the last second.
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You don't have a pc maintenance suit? (this guy's asking for it by not wearing the gloves)
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They don’t wear gloves because they need the dexterity to manipulate tools like a mouse. No glove is going to save your fingers and hand anyway.
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Per OSHA guidelines everything is fine as long as his body still has the shoes on when the dust settles.
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From the way Hardware Unboxed didn't talk about it in the beginning of this video, RX 5500 reviews may appear next week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvxY-Jrg8A&t=67s I wonder what went wrong with the 5600. AMD not having a competitive $250 card for much of this year was surely not intended.
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Maybe they had supply/fab issues like nvidia did, but unlike nvidia, didnt decide the workaround was just releasing products in triplicate in a cycle
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https://videocardz.com/newz/custom-radeon-rx-5500-xt-pictured-asrock-challenger-and-gigabyte-gaming-oc Board partners spilling the details as per usual, generally means the launch is close. Launch has been a real mess behind the scenes apparently, and supposedly the price isn't going to be very good (someone in the comments said $179-199) to let the board vendors keep dumping 590/580s.
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Drakhoran posted:I wonder what went wrong with the 5600. AMD not having a competitive $250 card for much of this year was surely not intended. AMD doesn't believe in consistently releasing a full lineup. eg the R7/R9 200 series was a mismash of GCN 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 parts across the lineup. Nor did it get any better with Polaris, no high-end polaris, they just moved straight on to Vega, which never got low-end cards. The CPU lineup is better, but APUs are still consistently a generation behind, and the 2C parts (Great Horned Owl/Raven Ridge 2) just come out whenever they feel like it. This is how AMD does GPUs. Every year they release half a lineup to replace whatever parts are the oldest/starting to stink from being rebranded too many times. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Statutory Ape posted:Maybe they had supply/fab issues like nvidia did Total 7nm fab capacity has been very limited, there's been stories about companies having to buy their production slots way in advance at TSMC. They'd probably rather keep making Ryzens where they can put the screws on Intel. A good $250 card wouldn't hurt nvidia nearly as much.
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I just bought an ACER vg240y pbiip and and it looked great out of the box. The Radeon software suggested some settings which I accepted and now my monitor looks terribly washed out. The lovely $100 TN panel I have next to it has noticeable better colors. I reset both the monitor and Radeon settings to default and it hasn’t fixed it. What the hell happened?
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fat bossy gerbil posted:I just bought an ACER vg240y pbiip and and it looked great out of the box. The Radeon software suggested some settings which I accepted and now my monitor looks terribly washed out. The lovely $100 TN panel I have next to it has noticeable better colors. I reset both the monitor and Radeon settings to default and it hasn’t fixed it. What the hell happened? Try disabling HDR if that was somehow enabled in the Radeon settings or in Windows.
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That fixed it, I guess it had windows turn it on. Thanks!
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It's annoying their software won't take no for an answer. I'm recommended both super sampling and HDR even after saying no a couple of times.
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