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Politicalrancor posted:you got real life issues in my sports and pop culture! I can go to The Atlantic for that poo poo. Would you want to hear a gun control debate during the 3rd quarter of Monday Night Football? Current events and politics does not have to be discussed in every aspect of life. Take a break once in a while.
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I was pretty upset about the way they took down all the other articles on Grantland, too.
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Aug 16, 2014 00:30
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Politicalrancor posted:you got real life issues in my sports and pop culture! I wouldn't go to Jalopnik to read about killer whales and why its probably bad to keep them in a concrete bathtub. That's what io9 is for. Similarly, I don't particularly want to read about race relations in a sports website (unless the race relations thing is, like, Jackie Robinson or about the Negro Leagues or something).
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Aug 16, 2014 00:41
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So then don't read it. Don't click the link. Big deal.
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Aug 16, 2014 00:52
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I hate the way it crowded actual important stories off the front page, like that video of Bill's college roommate eating until he throws up, or that recap of that television show - you know, that one.
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Aug 16, 2014 00:55
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lol @ the last page
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Aug 16, 2014 01:15
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And just when the Bachelor in Paradise started.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:17
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Ribsauce posted:I can go to The Atlantic for that poo poo. Would you want to hear a gun control debate during the 3rd quarter of Monday Night Football? Right, this one does though.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:43
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Sash! posted:I wouldn't go to Jalopnik to read about killer whales and why its probably bad to keep them in a concrete bathtub. That's what io9 is for. Similarly, I don't particularly want to read about race relations in a sports website (unless the race relations thing is, like, Jackie Robinson or about the Negro Leagues or something). Its a good thing Grantland isn't just a sports website and never has been, then.
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Aug 16, 2014 02:07
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It's not like they just dropped a bunch of stuff about Ferguson in an article about the NFL. It's clear from the title of the story what it's about. If you want to ignore it and just read about sports or tv instead it's really easy to. I dont get how just the very existence of it could upset you. Don't read it if you don't care.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:00
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MourningView posted:It's not like they just dropped a bunch of stuff about Ferguson in an article about the NFL. It's clear from the title of the story what it's about. If you want to ignore it and just read about sports or tv instead it's really easy to. I dont get how just the very existence of it could upset you. Don't read it if you don't care. And it's not like they've dramatically shifted their focus, either. It's a one-off article that a lot of people, especially people in their demo, care about. morestuff fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 03:18
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I'm sorry I started this. And to reiterate one last time I wasn't angry it existed and glad it was there. I just kind of wanted to discuss its existence. Also I'm pissed that it crowded out a breakdown of the latest housewives recap. Also that polygon article looks hilarious.
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Aug 16, 2014 04:25
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morestuff posted:And it's not like they've dramatically shifted their focus, either. It's a one-off article that a lot of people, especially people in their demo, care about. They do these kind of one-offs every now and then when something big pops up. Simmons has always emphasized the sport/culture combo; it's part of his schtick; this just stands out as one of the 10% of stories that isn't pop culture-oriented. And it's also a pretty drat good article by one of their better contributors who's present at a significant event.
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Aug 16, 2014 05:39
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Sash! posted:I wouldn't go to Jalopnik to read about killer whales and why its probably bad to keep them in a concrete bathtub. That's what io9 is for. Similarly, I don't particularly want to read about race relations in a sports website (unless the race relations thing is, like, Jackie Robinson or about the Negro Leagues or something). You can't even understand the importance of Robinson without understanding the broader context. This is a dumb as gently caress argument.
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joshtothemaxx posted:You can't even understand the importance of Robinson without understanding the broader context. This is a dumb as gently caress argument. You get that information from other sources. Not every source has to cover every base at all times, about all things.
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Aug 16, 2014 07:49
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It was interesting but Rembert has written better pieces.
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Aug 16, 2014 08:16
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The Wesley Morris piece was really really good. Also, interesting thing SI is evidently going to be doing. Going over career highlight photos with some of their most famous photographs/photographers. Really really cool and worth listening to all the interviews. http://www.si.com/longform/neil-leifer/
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soggybagel posted:The Wesley Morris piece was really really good. This is a serious pro click. Neil is one of the best.
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Aug 18, 2014 12:23
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Well this is a discouraging piece: http://gawker.com/time-inc-rates-writers-on-how-beneficial-they-are-to-1623253026quote:Here you see an internal Time Inc. spreadsheet that was used to rank and evaluate "writer-editors" at SI.com. (Time Inc. provided this document to the Newspaper Guild, which represents some of their employees, and the union provided it to us.) The evaluations were done as part of the process of deciding who would be laid off. Most interesting is this ranking criteria: "Produces content that [is] beneficial to advertiser relationship." These editorial employees were all ranked in this way, with their scores ranging from 2 to 10.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:15
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Was Taters posted:Well this is a discouraging piece: http://gawker.com/time-inc-rates-writers-on-how-beneficial-they-are-to-1623253026 Are we gonna sit around and pretend that this isn't how news media has worked for the last 100 plus years? Or that when downsizing that money shouldn't be a priority?
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Aug 18, 2014 18:52
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Print is nearly dead in every case, and weeklies like Time, Newsweek, etc have been dead and buried for well over a decade now.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:54
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Archo posted:Are we gonna sit around and pretend that this isn't how news media has worked for the last 100 plus years? Or that when downsizing that money shouldn't be a priority? It's at least a little different, in that subscription rates are way down and no one pays for content on the web, so media companies are more dependent than ever on their advertisers.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:55
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Archo posted:Are we gonna sit around and pretend that this isn't how news media has worked for the last 100 plus years? Or that when downsizing that money shouldn't be a priority? There was actually a real change when companies realized that news could be profitable. For a long time companies accepted that the fourth estate was a money loser but a necessity. It wasn't until the last 30 or so years that media companies realized that the news could be the most profitable division. This change in organizational philosophy also rearranged what it meant to provide news content.
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Bip Roberts posted:There was actually a real change when companies realized that news could be profitable. For a long time companies accepted that the fourth estate was a money loser but a necessity. It wasn't until the last 30 or so years that media companies realized that the news could be the most profitable division. This change in organizational philosophy also rearranged what it meant to provide news content. That's all true, but I believe that selling newspapers by cooperating with your sponsors (not covering what they don't want covered and perhaps not dogging them in the stories) is pretty old. Just because you didn't sell your paper at a profit doesn't mean you didn't try at all to make monies.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:18
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Archo posted:That's all true, but I believe that selling newspapers by cooperating with your sponsors (not covering what they don't want covered and perhaps not dogging them in the stories) is pretty old. Just because you didn't sell your paper at a profit doesn't mean you didn't try at all to make monies. Before there were a billion other ways to advertise they really didn't have to try as hard as you think. Really, "trying" before meant focusing on the news because print was the primary game in town and if you delivered the content people wanted, advertisers would flock to you. People are getting their hard news elsewhere now for the most part, so you're really at the total behest of the advertisers if you want to continue to exist.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:33
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The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles are up. It is 41,000 words long. Block out an afternoon.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles are up. Nah, I'm good.
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(It's a joke story by Jon Bois)
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles are up. Fabulous, though I thought it started to lose steam in chapter V, the ending...the ending.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:The Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles are up. Excellent, found my evening entertainment.
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That may be the best sports thing I've ever read.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:44
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The originals were better IMO but at least this one included The Rouge.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:52
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Looks like Matt Hinton is on staff at Grantland now. When the site first started out their college football coverage seemed like a complete afterthough (probably because Simmons doesn't give a poo poo about college sports) but between Hinton, Holly Anderson, and the occasional Chris Brown piece it might be the strongest part of the site now. I assume that's mostly Sharp's doing.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The originals were better IMO but at least this one included The Rouge. So is this one just a different take on the same concept as the originals?
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Frackie Robinson posted:So is this one just a different take on the same concept as the originals? Basically. It has more pictures.
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Aug 20, 2014 15:31
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Incredible. I do miss the part from last year about the domed city where past Sun Bowls provide the light and education is the only currency.
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Aug 20, 2014 20:54
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Frackie Robinson posted:So is this one just a different take on the same concept as the originals? And Drake is in it, which never fails to make me laugh
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Aug 21, 2014 05:56
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MourningView posted:Looks like Matt Hinton is on staff at Grantland now. When the site first started out their college football coverage seemed like a complete afterthough (probably because Simmons doesn't give a poo poo about college sports) but between Hinton, Holly Anderson, and the occasional Chris Brown piece it might be the strongest part of the site now. I assume that's mostly Sharp's doing. Yeah, NBA gets the sheer resources but for pure analysis and commentary that is an All-America team. I enjoy Weinreb's pieces for Grantland, though he's more of a gun for hire.
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Aug 21, 2014 09:51
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The originals were better IMO but at least this one included The Rouge. It's definitely like making the Fargo TV series before making the Fargo movie. I was able to roll with it though. Definitely agree that it does not end as strong as its rising action (which is very strong) suggests.
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Apparently Stephen A. Smith is going on Sean Hannity's radio show at 4:30 ET. In case you needed to be driven to insanity this afternoon.
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