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So of the 20 guys that made the semis, we've got 15 Brazilians, 4 US, and 1 Russian, and only 2 trialists left (Geo and Ramos)
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I'm frankly kind of surprised Ramos had to go through the trials, that dude is severely deserving of an invite (then again, so were Tonon and Cummings)
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Aug 30, 2015 04:58
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Budovideos put up the whole match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGzM8OJDrU Is Geo the first Eddie Bravo guy to make the semis since, uh, Eddie Bravo?
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If anyone else is watching live, what'd Yuri just get warned for? e: "I'm frankly kind of surprised Ramos had to go through the trials, that dude is severely deserving of an invite " --- man he looked good in his first match today E2 Davi fuckin Ramos Kekekela fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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Aug 30, 2015 14:53
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To give context to my second edit above, and because this really needs its own post: This happened, in an ADCC finals match, vs Lucas mothofockin' Lepri: 
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Aug 30, 2015 21:56
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That is insanely sick.
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Aug 30, 2015 23:36
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that reminds me of the time i hurt my elbow getting full extension armbarred by some spaz
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Kekekela posted:To give context to my second edit above, and because this really needs its own post: hachi machi
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Aug 31, 2015 04:04
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Kekekela posted:To give context to my second edit above, and because this really needs its own post: I can't even wrap my head around this, let around it happening in a top-flight elite context
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Aug 31, 2015 04:49
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Here is my question I asked about a few pages ago for people who train more than Jiu Jitsu that has bugged me forever. Most of you know I'm not likely to get back in to Muay Thai/MMA/BJJ sparring ever again because of health things. But when I did I desperately wanted to do things southpaw even though I'm right handed because I actually had a lot of fencing experience where your dominant hand is your lead hand/leg. But my coach at the time (2008/2009) was super against this and flipped his poo poo when I sparred and tried to switch stances. Was this a weird bug he had up his rear end or is it really a cardinal sin to have someone train a different stance from their dominant hand? I never really knew why that was such a big deal and thought you guys who have actual experience might be able to illuminate me. I appreciate your input. Also, someone posted finally getting a purple belt or a brown belt a few months ago. How is everyone progressing? I started following this thread almost a year ago and would be curious to know how the people that started around then are moving forward.
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Captain Log posted:Here is my question I asked about a few pages ago for people who train more than Jiu Jitsu that has bugged me forever. Weird bug up his rear end imho. I've seen several coaches just ask novices "how do you swing a baseball bat/golf club/hockey stick/shovel." Why should he care if you're using the stance that you find comfortable, if you're using that stance correctly?
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Captain Log posted:Here is my question I asked about a few pages ago for people who train more than Jiu Jitsu that has bugged me forever. Was this in BJJ? I don't see why he'd care. There's some merit, in boxing or kickboxing, to the thought that a beginner trying to learn everything from a reversed stance is perhaps hampering their development for dubious reasons, but which side you lead with in grappling shouldn't have that big an effect on you unless you're Kurt Pellegrino. In wrestling you lead with your dominant side to get more juice on your shot.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:17
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Any competent wrestling coach will teach you to wrestle from either side, but generally in striking coaches don't want beginners to switch; pick one or the other and learn it, and once you're competent from one stance then you can think about learning the other.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanhallbjj/status/637743879261917184ryan hall posted:@tanquinhojj 's base and passing are a scathing indictment of the idea that leglocks are some kind of secret to beating elite grapplers. 
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I get that he probably had that one locked and loaded since Eddie's interview last week, and was just waiting for the opponents name to fill in...but goddamn. Eddie won his first match via heel hook in like 3 seconds, then lost to Tanquinho in ot on a negative guard pull point, its not like he was just getting his guard blown by or w/e.
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Aug 31, 2015 13:20
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This is just Hall looking for an excuse to be snide, since Cummings never said "leglocks are some kind of secret to beating elite grapplers" or really anything of the kind - and is particularly amusing in light of the fact that Ryan made it to his only ADCC performance by heel-hooking his opponents in the West Coast trials, and the only time he fought Tanquinho himself he did worse than Eddie.
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I think leg locks are popular in high level competition because they're not well known compared to other parts of grappling, so they work better for the attacker than the most likely less informed defender. My old instructor said back in the day it was spider guard that held that spot, and before him I bet the triangle choke was some crazy aberration. As leg attacks get more known, I bet their usage levels off and people explore a new avenue to get an advantage. And all thats good, because as a part timer I can learn the basic "productionized" version of this poo poo and be better for it just like how now I am starting to understand rolling back takes after a few years where that was black magic. I also am beginning to think they're a great weapon for smaller people vs larger guys for various reasons, can anyone confirm if they really are or its just because people don't know them as well so are more hesistant to get involved in a leg-fest.
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Xguard86 posted:I think leg locks are popular in high level competition because they're not well known compared to other parts of grappling, so they work better for the attacker than the most likely less informed defender. My old instructor said back in the day it was spider guard that held that spot, and before him I bet the triangle choke was some crazy aberration. As leg attacks get more known, I bet their usage levels off and people explore a new avenue to get an advantage. And all thats good, because as a part timer I can learn the basic "productionized" version of this poo poo and be better for it just like how now I am starting to understand rolling back takes after a few years where that was black magic. Nah, having really long legs relative to your opponent is actually a big advantage when it comes to defending leglocks and making their leg control less effective. Think about trying to control your opponent's foot or heel when it's sticking out behind you, past your armpit -- you're basically chicken winging yourself to get your wrist into their achilles. Heel hooks and especially inverted heel hooks mitigate this a bit but not entirely. On top of longer limbs -> more leverage, you have to prevent them from extending that much more in order to have the foot in a good position, and quads are real fuckin strong muscles. Knee bars same problem, the bigger the leg the more leverage disadvantage you have trying to control it. Toe holds ignore length pretty well, though. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Nah, having really long legs relative to your opponent is actually a big advantage when it comes to defending leglocks and making their leg control less effective. Think about trying to control your opponent's foot or heel when it's sticking out behind you, past your armpit -- you're basically chicken winging yourself to get your wrist into their achilles. Heel hooks and especially inverted heel hooks mitigate this a bit but not entirely. On top of longer limbs -> more leverage, you have to prevent them from extending that much more in order to have the foot in a good position, and quads are real fuckin strong muscles. Knee bars same problem, the bigger the leg the more leverage disadvantage you have trying to control it. Yes. I have good look with defending leglocks purely by virtue of my shin being as long as most folks shin+half their thigh. Guys do their usual setup to get control of the leg and their hips are still below my knee. I can sit up, get control of the waist, bend my knees, sprawl, and get to the back from there if I'm fast enough. I'm usually not though because I'm fat.
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Rolling backtakes are black magic. I understand them, I use them, but I still feel like I'm breaking some kind of wizard law
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Rolling backtakes are black magic. I understand them, I use them, but I still feel like I'm breaking some kind of wizard law Yeah. Every time I pull it off and I wonder if I just cheated and muscled it, but I don't think it's really possible to just hulk a back take from that position.
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Coincidentally it looks like Ryan Hall is on the next season of TUF with Conor and Faber http://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-ultimate-fighter/story/ufc-ultimate-fighter-conor-mcgregor-urijah-faber-full-cast-tuf-22-announced-083115 I thought I heard a rumor about that before but wasn't sure it was ever confirmed. I know he's been working his wrestling so hopefully he can style on a few guys.
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origami posted:Coincidentally it looks like Ryan Hall is on the next season of TUF with Conor and Faber I just came here to ask if it was the grapply Ryan Hall
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I am familiar with the new school leg lock game and think it is still quite effective against tall and big opponents. Shin length isn't all that relevant to my finish rate. There is a pretty intricate control transition and finish game there and just because someone has a long shin or extends their leg doesn't mean you have to abandon a leg attack series. Old school heel hooks were pretty dependent on knee bend. The new heel hooks are not nearly as dependent. Even if I am below the knee, there are a number of attacks such as the short ankle lock that will still work. The leg lock game isn't a Konami cheat code but it should be understood and respected. In training, I mostly go for leg locks as counters or when someone repummels a leg loosely. I prefer transitioning back and forth between lower and upper body attacks.
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Yuns posted:I am familiar with the new school leg lock game and think it is still quite effective against tall and big opponents. Shin length isn't all that relevant to my finish rate. There is a pretty intricate control transition and finish game there and just because someone has a long shin or extends their leg doesn't mean you have to abandon a leg attack series. Old school heel hooks were pretty dependent on knee bend. The new heel hooks are not nearly as dependent. Even if I am below the knee, there are a number of attacks such as the short ankle lock that will still work. The leg lock game isn't a Konami cheat code but it should be understood and respected. In training, I mostly go for leg locks as counters or when someone repummels a leg loosely. I prefer transitioning back and forth between lower and upper body attacks. Yeah, it's not a leglock game can't be effective against longer opponents, just that it's not an exception to advantage length presents in most areas of grappling. Having long arms can also help a lot with defending leg locks (especially gi), and tends to go along with having long legs.
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Polaris 2 is looking sweet. September 12.Polaris posted:Pedro Bessa vs Luca Anacoreta - GI Tonon vs Imanari and Cummings vs Bodycomb are going to be really interesting with regards to all the evolution-of-leglocks stuff that Yuns has been talking about. I hope Reilly doesn't get wrecked, he is a precious angel
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Haha Ben Henderson competed in the Absolute division at ADCC and got matched up with Rodolfo Vieira. It went about as well as expected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtkz9lpa6Zk
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Polaris 2 is looking sweet. September 12. Reilly's great but I'm also a little concerned that he's not going to be able to keep up from a pure athleticism standpoint.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Reilly's great but I'm also a little concerned that he's not going to be able to keep up from a pure athleticism standpoint. I don't think there's any real significant advantage in athleticism for either guy; I think if there's any real advantage on either side it's that Cummings has a lot of really top-level training partners and in Louisiana Reilly probably doesn't.
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fatherdog posted:I don't think there's any real significant advantage in athleticism for either guy; I think if there's any real advantage on either side it's that Cummings has a lot of really top-level training partners and in Louisiana Reilly probably doesn't. How's his no kurtka dvd? I got the SL4NG one but didn't really understand how the no kurtka one supplements his first foray in instructionals.
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AJ Agzagarm can be a huge star if he keeps his chin up and his nose clean, unlike that lout AJ Agazarm.
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Odddzy posted:How's his no kurtka dvd? I haven't seen his no kurtka DVD specifically, but I've seen his seminars and on that basis I'd recommend it. He's a good, clear instructor who explains things in a very easy manner.
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From what I can tell so far, No Kurtka is mostly the same information as his earlier DVDs, but more concise, filmed with better production quality, and broken down into more easily navigable chapters. Vol. 1 covers a lot of the stuff from Dynamic Entry (in greater detail), Vol. 2 covers a lot of the stuff from that leglock seminar series. I'm finding it more useful as a quick reference. And it's very cheap.
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Anyone know if Kevin Casey has legit got his bjj black belt? or was there some big falling out with rickson when he left there?
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Nierbo posted:Anyone know if Kevin Casey has legit got his bjj black belt? or was there some big falling out with rickson when he left there? I was curious so I started googling. I didn't find any info about the black belt but I did uncover Casey's groundbreaking cover of g-in-a-gi.
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Nierbo posted:Anyone know if Kevin Casey has legit got his bjj black belt? or was there some big falling out with rickson when he left there? He basically gave himself his black belt, whereupon he got kicked out of Rickson's gym (because nobody there had actually promoted him) and eventually got accepted back because he voluntarily went back to brown. I believe he's "officially" gotten his black belt from there now, but whether or not he "deserves" it is an open question, because if Kron was good enough friends with him to accept him back after awarding himself a black belt he's also good enough friends to award him a black belt whether he deserves it or not, so there'll always be questions about whether his black belt is truly "legit" Kron is a very good grappler but he's a young guy and doesn't seem to have very good judgement in the people he gets close to.
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Ah I see. Kron might learn the hard way this time.
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Check out this article about youth wrestling in Bulgaria Makes me feel like the biggest shithead ever cause I get annoyed about driving 20-30 minutes for affiliate open mat poo poo on the weekends
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