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Headless guitars always make me think of these dudes: and they are just as attractive.
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muike posted:http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/page14_jp.php?cat_id=1&series_id=3&data_id=227&color=CL01#.U8bBCbG9aC-  Holy gently caress. At least when Ibanez makes ugly stuff it's usually not boring-ugly. They must have wiped out a whole species of abalone to build that thing. And speaking of Ibby, can we talk about the fact that they still make a signature model for the guy from the Offspring? Did they just sign him to a hundred-year contract in 1992? I don't exactly hate the guitar, except for that input jack. Also the TV-yellow-over-basswood probably looks pretty underwhelming in person but whatever. Also, we may need to make a BEST music equipment thread so I have somewhere to post this. Edit: I forgot that Ibanez recently debuted a Casino copy, which is something I should almost automatically like since I am both a ridiculous Artcore and Casino fanboy. Except it has the ugliest finish possible. Even the AS73s now have nice bursts and natural/tint finishes so I don't know what happened. Ferrous Wheel fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Jul 16, 2014 20:33
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That Noodles guy from the Offspring(I wonder if he feels weird being called Noodles at age 45 or whatever he is now) had the best/worst/dumbest signature Ibanez guitar. It gave the Steve Vai model a run for it's money: That is a duct tape finish. Actual loving duct tape. It has clear gloss over the duct tape, because he it needs to be practical.
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Jul 16, 2014 20:49
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To be fair, that is pretty loving punk. If I wasn't allergic to non-offset guitars posing as offsets then I would be all over that.
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Jul 16, 2014 20:54
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hahaha oh god
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Jul 16, 2014 21:15
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Dirt posted:That Noodles guy from the Offspring(I wonder if he feels weird being called Noodles at age 45 or whatever he is now) Age 51. Fifty loving one, count 'em. 
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Jul 16, 2014 21:38
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Ferrous Wheel posted:And speaking of Ibby, can we talk about the fact that they still make a signature model for the guy from the Offspring? Did they just sign him to a hundred-year contract in 1992? I don't exactly hate the guitar, except for that input jack. Also the TV-yellow-over-basswood probably looks pretty underwhelming in person but whatever. I don't know what to think about this thing. It's basically a tele with P90s and an arm contour in concept which should be awesome, but the execution is... lacking. The body is some weird reverse offset with a really long and ugly lower horn. The jack is on the chrome electronics plate, along with ONE of the black knobs, while the other is chilling out on the black pickguard and basically invisible. I mean, it looks comfortable to play, and probably sounds great, but it's just an aesthetic mess, and not in an endearing way.
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Jul 16, 2014 21:52
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it's like a telecaster and an iceman had an abortion the split knobs irritate me more than they should. it really is a mess
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Jul 16, 2014 21:54
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darkwasthenight posted:Age 51. Fifty loving one, count 'em. 
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Jul 16, 2014 21:58
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Re: the camaro/teisco on the previous page, it even looks to have a truss rod so it wouldn't suffer from serious neck warp either, I'd totally drop 125 on that (will probs be able to sell it for more when the trend for them reaches you anyway, but as White Dog Eggs said, they're a helluva lot of fun).darkwasthenight posted:Age 51. Fifty loving one, count 'em. Those glasses really aren't helping matters. Also re: the fender stratacoustic a page or two back, IIRC the point of that was to be more comfortable for electric players by having an strat-like neck, and the rest of the guitar was to hammer it home (though they have others that aren't as obnoxious, also a telecoustic). As someone who rarely plays acoustic I appreciate the former. There is also this: 
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Jul 16, 2014 23:02
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darkwasthenight posted:Age 51. Fifty loving one, count 'em. gently caress, this is like my personal Dorian Gray immortality painting, now I'm just going to shrivel up and die. What a world, what a world!
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Jul 17, 2014 00:19
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Dirt posted:That Noodles guy from the Offspring(I wonder if he feels weird being called Noodles at age 45 or whatever he is now) had the best/worst/dumbest signature Ibanez guitar. It gave the Steve Vai model a run for it's money: it's actually satin. my friend had one. it would've been ok with a good set up, actually and was fairly comfortable but very heavy. 6/10 functionality imo
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Jul 17, 2014 02:39
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It's like a 90s 3D render of a guitar. Incredible.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:13
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th1nk posted:Also re: the fender stratacoustic a page or two back, IIRC the point of that was to be more comfortable for electric players by having an strat-like neck, and the rest of the guitar was to hammer it home (though they have others that aren't as obnoxious, also a telecoustic). As someone who rarely plays acoustic I appreciate the former. You know what... 
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Jul 17, 2014 04:38
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I wonder what an Ibanez employee had to do in order to be punished with duct-tape-duty when they were making those things. I assume working on the Talman acoustic is the new sentence for major offenders.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:50
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Well it wouldn't have actually been an Ibanez employee as at the time Ibanez did not own their own factory (they only did when they began producing the Premium line) and instead would have been some poor korean fucker. That being said, from the feel of it, it obviously wasn't actual duct tape but something more like a fabric tape or even something that could be applied in entire sheets or wraps.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:53
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Dirt posted:That Noodles guy from the Offspring(I wonder if he feels weird being called Noodles at age 45 or whatever he is now) had the best/worst/dumbest signature Ibanez guitar. It gave the Steve Vai model a run for it's money: I'm a total Ibanez fanboy, but these are pretty awesome guitars. It's too bad they looked so goddamn stupid. Those humbuckers have kind of a vintage sound, but with a slightly hotter signal, a friend of mine had a few guitars with them, can't remember the exact name of them. Also, I'm a fan of the Stratacoustic, because I also really love strats. They sound like rear end unplugged, but they're pretty decent sounding amplified. Man, this thread has made me realize I have the shittiest taste in guitars. At least I've exercised restraint and don't actually own any of the hideous guitars that I like.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:55
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I like prs and want a steinberger
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Jul 17, 2014 04:58
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PRS is weird to me in that the ugliness of their wares corresponds exactly to price. The SE standard was a great looking guitar, whereas their super high end private stock collection is 100% hideous. Steinberger I like because they at least have a sense of adventure. The new Z series that look mostly like a normal guitar are pretty cool, and I'd kind of want one of they could be had for less than a grand. Edit: Added link with pictures of Brent Mason private stock monstrosity with carefully mingled gold and chrome hardware. Ferrous Wheel fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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Jul 17, 2014 05:06
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Prs is like New Balance shoes. Sure, they're made well and they're probably comfortable, but they look super lame, not even ugly. Just lame and boring. For the sake of this analogy pretend New Balances also cost like 200 bucks. E: also their main customer base is 50 year old men.
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Jul 17, 2014 07:04
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shiksa posted:Prs is like New Balance shoes. Sure, they're made well and they're probably comfortable, but they look super lame, not even ugly. Just lame and boring. For the sake of this analogy pretend New Balances also cost like 200 bucks. Simplified, PRS is the guitar of _____ dads.
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Jul 17, 2014 07:11
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Ferrous Wheel posted:Steinberger I like because they at least have a sense of adventure. The new Z series that look mostly like a normal guitar are pretty cool, and I'd kind of want one of they could be had for less than a grand. i'm kinda bummed steinberger never made a retro kitsch comeback like keytars did, but they were even more of a niche instrument in their heyday i suppose they're funny but i think if you're gonna go headless might as well go whole hog and get one of those strandbergs. pretty sure the latest axe fx model comes with a 10% off coupon 
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Jul 17, 2014 10:22
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Just saw that albino blues legend and noted ugly guitar fan Johnny Winter just died.   I saw him live twice. Such a badass. Even when he was older, and he sat in a chair for the whole show, he was still awesome live. Also holy poo poo he was only 70. He looked about 90.
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Jul 17, 2014 10:26
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Rick Toone and Patrick Hufschmid are (separately) doing some neat things with headless designs. Toone designed a headpiece with a built-in bottle opener, because why the gently caress not? Sad about Johnny Winter. His bassist is completing the image by playing a pretty ugly bass in that pic—a Yamaha B-somethingorother. Like a P-bass in a fat suit.
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Jul 17, 2014 10:44
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I figure it's worth posting this in case it hasn't come up already (I'm reading through the thread but I'm skipping past most posts without images, so if it is linked I probably won't see it). It's a long story and I don't remember much of it, so if you want serious backstory, googling "Vampiire Guitars" should get you there – basically they guy is a nutter who claims to have made instruments for famous people who don't know him (I think one is mentioned in the video as being legit – that took longer to discredit because the dude was dead), and often goes off at legitimate luthiers. A music store or their employees bought one of his guitars to find out. They made a series of short videos when they received it, and they are definitely worth watching despite being recorded in a music store and all that comes with that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hepqjBaHA1s&list=PLnKh1YKoyORJamCV01VMG0tkPP6yhBLDm
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Jul 17, 2014 18:19
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yeah that one was loving classic. i love the dog bed case
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Jul 17, 2014 18:59
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Lost it at brand of the Floyd Rose-esque bridge: Rhythm & Jump. Dancing Close To You
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Jul 17, 2014 19:33
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Base price only $2500!!!  OH GOD I just skipped to part eleven of that video and jesus christ.
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bisticles posted:Lost it at brand of the Floyd Rose-esque bridge: Rhythm & Jump. Dancing Close To You I only remembered this stuff because someone mentioned Rhythm In Jump in a local muso facebook group yesterday. The guy is sort of well known here after sending angry messages/facebook posts to a well-respected local luthier (who had foolishly tried to interact with him like he wasn't a lunatic). Here is an example of someone else making the same mistake: http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/luthiery-modifications-customizations/215010-devries-vampiire-guitars.html Ferrous, your link is broken but wow the GIS results for that number are something special.
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Jul 17, 2014 22:26
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code: I think this is what the url is meant to be. The BBcode chokes on the underscore. Lots of ugly guitars, lots of 'art' of dead women.
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Jul 17, 2014 23:03
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Edit: His powers of web page breaking are truly extraordinary. I was trying to link to the page behind the "Vampires" button. No naked women, but it does have a geocities layout and ugly vampire face picture tiled as the background, so I still wouldn't look at it at work. Or if anyone who knows you can see your screen.
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Jul 18, 2014 00:31
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Serious question, is there any real reason for headless guitars like Steinbergers? They look hideously stupid to me, but I am figuring there must be some practical reason outside of making the guitar slightly smaller without a head.
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Jul 18, 2014 02:15
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I think it's more that there are plenty of reasons to get rid of headstocks, except for the fact that guitars look stupid without them. From a purely functional standpoint, tuning behind the bridge, and deleting headstocks makes sense. It's just hard to get away from a millenium of stringed instrument design.
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Jul 18, 2014 02:32
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unlawfulsoup posted:Serious question, is there any real reason for headless guitars like Steinbergers? They look hideously stupid to me, but I am figuring there must be some practical reason outside of making the guitar slightly smaller without a head. If you look it up, you can see ned steinberg interviews out the wazoo. Steinberger never played instruments and still doesn't. He started out in furniture and engineering. His first instrument design was the spector NS series, which is designed to be as balanced as possible. After that, he wanted to take it a step further and invented the headless bass system. Headless instruments, in function, are much more suited to basses, but it spread to guitars, too. He also wanted to just generally update the, frankly speaking, outdated guitar design. Thus moses graphite necks, carbon bodies, etc
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Jul 18, 2014 02:38
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Dirt posted:Just saw that albino blues legend and noted ugly guitar fan Johnny Winter just died. gently caress. Johnny Winter was probably the greatest blues guitarist of all time. Noe that he's gone, there's nothing to counteract John Mayer, the blues is officially terrible now
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Jul 18, 2014 02:53
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The blues, then, have got the blues? (Winter was awesome, though. drat, that sucks.)
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Jul 18, 2014 07:43
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HollisBrown posted:gently caress. Johnny Winter was probably the greatest blues guitarist of all time. Noe that he's gone, there's nothing to counteract John Mayer, the blues is officially terrible now Buddy Guy is still alive.
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^ Took the words right out of my mouth. ^ Also, the blues survived the deaths of Rev. Gary Davis, Son House, Bucca White, Howlin' Wolf, Robert Johnson, and Blind loving Lemon ( though not in that order). Not only that, it evolved and grew after all of those losses. Really, blues players are like Jedis that way; dying is just how they get promoted to upper management. (I realize you were probably joking, but really.)
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Jul 18, 2014 14:50
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Ferrous Wheel posted:Also, the blues survived the deaths of Rev. Gary Davis, Son House, Bucca White, Howlin' Wolf, Robert Johnson, and Blind loving Lemon ( though not in that order). Not only that, it evolved and grew after all of those losses. Really, blues players are like Jedis that way; dying is just how they get promoted to upper management. it also survived the careers of eric clapton, stevie ray vaughan, joe bonamassa, and john mayer bruce willis' harmonica will save us all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fy73GK784A Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 18, 2014 |
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