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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Carillon posted:

No I really appreciate that, but it's like what should I be looking for to know it's over? A rate of infection below x? 0 cases over x days or weeks? I just realized I don't have any idea of what over night look like locally and many people I know who I might look to seem to be treating it as a done deal, which lol.

At the moment in Victoria, Australia, we're on full lockdown. Chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations are open, restaurants are doing takeaway only, school is learn from home, which is hopefully finishing this week. Everything else is open for pickup only, or closed completely.

Our 14-day moving average of new cases is around 9.7, and we've been told that going to the next stage (being able to socialise with one nominated household, groups of ten people in outdoor settings, outdoor seating at restaurants with 25% capacity maximum) is dependent on having a that average be less than 5. Regardless of that, we have a face mask mandate that requires anyone over the age of 12 leaving the house to wear a mask at all times, scarves and neck gaiters don't count, and fines of $200 for not wearing a mask and fines ranging from $4,957 to $20,000 for breaching the regulations.

Having a government that has a plan is the key thing here.

Stravag posted:

Depending on where dining indoors has already restarted. I know NC has indoor dining open

And 1800 cases a day.

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Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Oh yeah its the dumbest thing ever

Carillon
May 9, 2014






Memento posted:

At the moment in Victoria, Australia, we're on full lockdown. Chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations are open, restaurants are doing takeaway only, school is learn from home, which is hopefully finishing this week. Everything else is open for pickup only, or closed completely.

Our 14-day moving average of new cases is around 9.7, and we've been told that going to the next stage (being able to socialise with one nominated household, groups of ten people in outdoor settings, outdoor seating at restaurants with 25% capacity maximum) is dependent on having a that average be less than 5. Regardless of that, we have a face mask mandate that requires anyone over the age of 12 leaving the house to wear a mask at all times, scarves and neck gaiters don't count, and fines of $200 for not wearing a mask and fines ranging from $4,957 to $20,000 for breaching the regulations.

Having a government that has a plan is the key thing here.


And 1800 cases a day.

Not even kidding I'm really happy there's a coordinated push for public health, here in the states there's very much less of that. I guess it's just the disconnect between seeing other places actually reinforce the public nature of public health and then seeing people I know bragging about flying or going to bars that gets to me and unfortunately rouses a sense that maybe by still bring careful I'm doing it wrong.

Classon Ave. Robot
Oct 7, 2019

by Athanatos
The pandemic is going to still be going on somewhere in the world (America for sure) until a vaccine is developed and distributed. Everything else depends on where you live. I just had thanksgiving dinner with a group of 10 people at my friends parents house because I live on an island in Canada with a pretty low number of cases and nobody is hugely worried right now. If I lived in some terrible country like America or Britain or some other parts of Canada I probably wouldn't be doing that. If I lived in New Zealand I probably would have forgotten there was a pandemic at all for a few weeks.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Memento posted:

At the moment in Victoria, Australia, we're on full lockdown. Chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations are open, restaurants are doing takeaway only, school is learn from home, which is hopefully finishing this week. Everything else is open for pickup only, or closed completely.

Our 14-day moving average of new cases is around 9.7, and we've been told that going to the next stage (being able to socialise with one nominated household, groups of ten people in outdoor settings, outdoor seating at restaurants with 25% capacity maximum) is dependent on having a that average be less than 5. Regardless of that, we have a face mask mandate that requires anyone over the age of 12 leaving the house to wear a mask at all times, scarves and neck gaiters don't count, and fines of $200 for not wearing a mask and fines ranging from $4,957 to $20,000 for breaching the regulations.

Having a government that has a plan is the key thing here.

In Finland we have way more cases than that (although 200-300 a day doesn't seem like A Lot to me) and there's only the vaguest of restrictions going on - bars shut earlier than normal and there's a recommendation to wear a mask in indoor public cases, but there's no enforcement and maybe like 10% of people wear them in shops. Yesterday I went to a cafe, an arcade and a pub, and basically the only difference from "normal" was earlier last orders and seeing some people wearing masks. I've probably never been happier to live here tbf

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Carillon posted:

No I really appreciate that, but it's like what should I be looking for to know it's over? A rate of infection below x? 0 cases over x days or weeks? I just realized I don't have any idea of what over night look like locally and many people I know who I might look to seem to be treating it as a done deal, which lol.

If you want to see how New Orleans is thinking about things, they have a milestone comparison here. Basically as long as:

New cases per day less than 50 (roughly 100 per million);
R0 less than 1;
Positive test rate 5% or less;
Hospital beds in use at 60% or less; and
Getting contacts for tracing from 75% or more or new cases,

...then they're willing to relax the restrictions somewhat more from previous.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=ey...e=ReportSection

dirby
Sep 21, 2004


Helping goons with math
If the rate goes down in your area (so speed of spread and hospital use is contained), then restrictions might relax. But that's about statistical averages and you have to decide how much risk of you personally going through symptoms and risking death you're willing to take on.

In the US, as long as people are traveling between states and most people haven't been vaccinated, the US (except Alaska and Hawaii?) will still have a certain level of personal risk even if it's a bit lower/major spreading is unlikely.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Stravag posted:

Depending on where dining indoors has already restarted. I know NC has indoor dining open

That usually has very little to do with actual safety:

South Carolina relied on restaurant association's coronavirus reopening guideline

quote:

As South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster prepared to announce the end of a coronavirus stay-at-home order, his top staff received an email from the state health department.

The message, highlighted in bold, was clear: Wait longer before allowing customers back inside restaurants, hair salons and other businesses where people will be in close contact.

Instead, McMaster pressed ahead with a plan written by the state restaurant association to resume inside dining on May 11. The guidelines made masks optional for employees and allowed more customers inside than the health agency had advised.

quote:

He was hardly alone. Thousands of pages of emails provided to The Associated Press under open-records laws show that governors across the U.S. were inundated with reopening advice from a wide range of industries – from campgrounds in New Hampshire to car washes in Washington. Some governors put economic interests ahead of public health guidance, and certain businesses were allowed to write the rules that would govern their own operations.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Ras Het posted:

In Finland we have way more cases than that (although 200-300 a day doesn't seem like A Lot to me) and there's only the vaguest of restrictions going on - bars shut earlier than normal and there's a recommendation to wear a mask in indoor public cases, but there's no enforcement and maybe like 10% of people wear them in shops. Yesterday I went to a cafe, an arcade and a pub, and basically the only difference from "normal" was earlier last orders and seeing some people wearing masks. I've probably never been happier to live here tbf

Probably why your cases are accelerating. I'd be very concerned, if I were you.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/

Lockdown isn't fun, but it's necessary.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Hyperlynx posted:

Probably why your cases are accelerating. I'd be very concerned, if I were you.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/

Lockdown isn't fun, but it's necessary.

The trick to reading those daily case graphs is to set them to log scale. It looks less scary that way.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
Does anyone know of a webcomic (or maybe a manga) and it's an issekai where a person is trapped in a game as a spider.

dirby
Sep 21, 2004


Helping goons with math

Boba Pearl posted:

Does anyone know of a webcomic (or maybe a manga) and it's an issekai where a person is trapped in a game as a spider.

"So I'm a Spider, So What?"/「蜘蛛ですが、なにか?」 has a manga adaptation (US Amazon link for vol 1) and was mentioned in my first Google hit for isekai where a person is trapped in a game as a "spider". It seems they might not be in a game, though.

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

Where is the cheapest place to buy a cheap ole microphone for the computer? I just need something that'll plug into the aux cable of my computer and allow me to communicate with other people for gaming.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
You can get a USB microphone for around $20 from basically any online electronics retailer.

Something like this would almost certainly suit.

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/49916/simplecom-um350-flexible-neck-usb-desktop-microphone

This one is an aux cable mic that clips onto your headset

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/2885/zalman-zm-mic-1-microphone

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Yeah, I just use a random $20 walmart mic for that and it's worked fine for years now.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

How do you get extra money from an eBay buyer after they have paid for something?
e.g. they buy an item, pay the listed price, then ask for an upgraded delivery method for extra cost, so need to pay an extra $10.

I can't find a method for doing this, other than issuing a refund, then creating a new invoice for the revised amount (and paypal will charge me for the first, refunded payment).

I've tried googling, but it keeps giving answers from 2014 which was before changes were made to prevent this. (e.g. you can't send them a paypal request for payment because ebay hides their email address. If you send them your address through the ebay messaging service, it gets blocked) or solutions that only work if they haven't paid you already.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

I don't use eBay but is there really no way to contact a buyer, even if they contacted you with a question? I can understand obfuscating their contact info but if eBay doesn't allow any contact at all that seems insane. Assuming I'm misunderstanding and you can contact them, give them your phone number and have them Zelle you the ten bucks
E: if "zelle" would be blocked, as seems likely, just send your phone number and ask them to text you. Or are phone numbers blocked too?

Put up another auction for a gun wrapper for 10 dollars and tell them to Buy It Now?

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Oct 12, 2020

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

regulargonzalez posted:

I don't use eBay but is there really no way to contact a buyer, even if they contacted you with a question? I can understand obfuscating their contact info but if eBay doesn't allow any contact at all that seems insane. Assuming I'm misunderstanding and you can contact them, give them your phone number and have them Zelle you the ten bucks

You can send them a message, but ebay will prevent you from sending it if it includes a phone number or email address and will penalise you if you try too many times. So, yes, it is very frustrating.

E: that new listing does seem to be the only option: which means they will take extra fees (rather than just the standard percentage if the original auction sold for more). eBay really hates the sellers.

Moo the cow fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 12, 2020

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
Hey, how do I stop my Mouse 4 from doing "Previous Page" on windows 10, anyone know?

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Boba Pearl posted:

Hey, how do I stop my Mouse 4 from doing "Previous Page" on windows 10, anyone know?

Download the official driver from the manufacturer and you should be able to configure or even disable any buttons

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009

Moo the cow posted:

How do you get extra money from an eBay buyer after they have paid for something?
e.g. they buy an item, pay the listed price, then ask for an upgraded delivery method for extra cost, so need to pay an extra $10.

I can't find a method for doing this, other than issuing a refund, then creating a new invoice for the revised amount (and paypal will charge me for the first, refunded payment).

I've tried googling, but it keeps giving answers from 2014 which was before changes were made to prevent this. (e.g. you can't send them a paypal request for payment because ebay hides their email address. If you send them your address through the ebay messaging service, it gets blocked) or solutions that only work if they haven't paid you already.

This sounds like a real loving hassle. Is messaging them and telling them that it's not really an option without additional cost and trouble on your end not an option? The auction listed shipping as such and that's basically on them for that. This seems like something they should've asked about before buying said item. Alternately is it possible to just omit characters from the email address and provide instructions and an explanation of how to fix it to get the additional funds?

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

dog nougat posted:

This sounds like a real loving hassle. Is messaging them and telling them that it's not really an option without additional cost and trouble on your end not an option? The auction listed shipping as such and that's basically on them for that. This seems like something they should've asked about before buying said item.

It is a real hassle: they asked for the delivery to be sent using a tracking option, I told them that it would be an extra cost of $x and were they okay with that? Instead of replying to me and letting me issue an invoice for the new amount, they paid the original standard post amount.

I'd have thought the option to add to the invoice/issue an updated invoice was a simple feature and I've been feeling stupid for not being able to find out how to do it.
But nope, you can't do that.

dog nougat posted:

Alternately is it possible to just omit characters from the email address and provide instructions and an explanation of how to fix it to get the additional funds?
Crossed my mind, but my worry is that in order to get it simple enough for them to understand, I'd be at risk of triggering ebay's penalty process for trying.

In the end, I told them 'no'.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
does anyone remember that guy who used to reveal how magic illusions were done, on tv? who was that guy? what did career magicians think of his act? did they hate him?

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

does anyone remember that guy who used to reveal how magic illusions were done, on tv? who was that guy? what did career magicians think of his act? did they hate him?

This the guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Valentino

At a quick glance his wikipedia seems to answer your questions

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

does anyone remember that guy who used to reveal how magic illusions were done, on tv? who was that guy? what did career magicians think of his act? did they hate him?

I distinctly remember Harry Anderson doing a magic special where he talked poo poo about the Masked Magician and then did the same tricks that had been revealed but with new twists that proved he wasn't doing them with the hidden tricks the mask magician showed.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

does anyone remember that guy who used to reveal how magic illusions were done, on tv? who was that guy? what did career magicians think of his act? did they hate him?

90% chance you were thinking of the Masked Magician guy, but it's at least possible you meant James Randi. He never set out to spoil anyone's act, but when someone started claiming to have real-life psychic abilities that were not just part of the show, he'd call them out on it and demonstrate the fraud. He once famously assisted Johnny Carson in debunking Uri Geller, and he's the guy behind the million-dollar challenge that you might have heard of.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
yeah, it was definitely val valentino. i didn’t know he revealed himself, interesting.

McCracAttack posted:

I distinctly remember Harry Anderson doing a magic special where he talked poo poo about the Masked Magician and then did the same tricks that had been revealed but with new twists that proved he wasn't doing them with the hidden tricks the mask magician showed.

this is kind of badass.

thanks yall

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

I already asked this in coc but since there are so many computer people around I'd ask it here.

Where can I find some programming lessons or courses that can take me from novice/intermediate level to real-world situations and projects? I'm at the point where language doesn't matter all that much, but most of my tiny amount of experience is in Java.

I'm getting a little concerned that I'm about to start my last year of a cs degree in January (old guy taking classes) and all I know is theory. This program has been very bottom-up - we have learned a ton of individual concepts but not how to use them all together to do anything practical.

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

Manager Hoyden posted:

I already asked this in coc but since there are so many computer people around I'd ask it here.

Where can I find some programming lessons or courses that can take me from novice/intermediate level to real-world situations and projects? I'm at the point where language doesn't matter all that much, but most of my tiny amount of experience is in Java.

I'm getting a little concerned that I'm about to start my last year of a cs degree in January (old guy taking classes) and all I know is theory. This program has been very bottom-up - we have learned a ton of individual concepts but not how to use them all together to do anything practical.

I liked udemy for web dev stuff when I was first starting, the courses are usually :10bux: and some public libraries have _free_ access to udemy if you're luck to live in one of those areas!

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

The IT certification thread in hardware/software has a ton of useful info and knowledgeable posters. Might also help to look at job postings in your field to see what languages and skills are in demand.

owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

Manager Hoyden posted:

I already asked this in coc but since there are so many computer people around I'd ask it here.

Where can I find some programming lessons or courses that can take me from novice/intermediate level to real-world situations and projects? I'm at the point where language doesn't matter all that much, but most of my tiny amount of experience is in Java.

I'm getting a little concerned that I'm about to start my last year of a cs degree in January (old guy taking classes) and all I know is theory. This program has been very bottom-up - we have learned a ton of individual concepts but not how to use them all together to do anything practical.

you should just try to make something dude

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

owlhawk911 posted:

you should just try to make something dude

This is not always very useful advice. I never have any idea what to make for myself. Anything I might do, someone else has already done. It's like telling someone "just write something!"

owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

hooah posted:

This is not always very useful advice. I never have any idea what to make for myself. Anything I might do, someone else has already done. It's like telling someone "just write something!"

tbh if someone was like "i've been in writing school for years, i know about all these literary devices and poo poo, any tips on how i can learn to actually tell a story" that probably would be my advice. and it's way more applicable for coding

owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

learn by doing is a legit strat

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Poke around here and see if anything excites you:

https://www.firsttimersonly.com/

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

owlhawk911 posted:

learn by doing is a legit strat

It is, but you have to understand that for a lot of people they don't even have the framework in place that lets them do that. What, do I just open notepad and start writing code in it? How do I make it do thing when I'm finished? I realise that the code will almost all be copied and pasted from Stack Overflow at this point in time in someone's learning but without having some fundamentals (open python, write

code:
the.time <- Sys.time()
the.time + 2 < Sys.time()
while (the.time + 2 > Sys.time()){
  print("R")
}
press the button) the limiting friction is going to be too hard to overcome.

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

Penguissimo posted:

Poke around here and see if anything excites you:

https://www.firsttimersonly.com/

Yes, thank you so much. That is a great resource.

owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

Memento posted:

It is, but you have to understand that for a lot of people they don't even have the framework in place that lets them do that. What, do I just open notepad and start writing code in it? How do I make it do thing when I'm finished? I realise that the code will almost all be copied and pasted from Stack Overflow at this point in time in someone's learning but without having some fundamentals (open python, write

code:
the.time <- Sys.time()
the.time + 2 < Sys.time()
while (the.time + 2 > Sys.time()){
  print("R")
}
press the button) the limiting friction is going to be too hard to overcome.

i was figuring the first half of dude's cs degree might've touched on some of that

Penguissimo posted:

Poke around here and see if anything excites you:

https://www.firsttimersonly.com/

this is a great idea though

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Manager Hoyden posted:

I already asked this in coc but since there are so many computer people around I'd ask it here.

Where can I find some programming lessons or courses that can take me from novice/intermediate level to real-world situations and projects? I'm at the point where language doesn't matter all that much, but most of my tiny amount of experience is in Java.

I'm getting a little concerned that I'm about to start my last year of a cs degree in January (old guy taking classes) and all I know is theory. This program has been very bottom-up - we have learned a ton of individual concepts but not how to use them all together to do anything practical.

don't program.

go be a project manager or something instead


every single person/organization/tutorial/bootcamp/program in the world telling you that software development is a good field is corporate interests trying to saturate the market to drive down salaries

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

owlhawk911 posted:

i was figuring the first half of dude's cs degree might've touched on some of that


lol, I missed that completely, fair cop

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