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Pirate Jet posted:It was that and the fact that the biggest exposure Bad Faith ever got was the Chomsky interview That interview was garbage and it was embarrassing that they were so proud of it. Nothing but a full hour of Chomsky trying to make a basic point that Biden is the better choice in a one-or-the-other election and BJG trying to do irrelevant thought experiments and complaining about how Biden wasn't going to help her personal causes.
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It's wild how all the high profile people that worked Bernie's campaign were 1. extremely stupid 2. extremely annoying and 3. opportunistic as gently caress Obviously the state of the Left in this country is not great, but good lord, the hucksters that surrounded him
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Halloween Jack posted:I've still managed to avoid understanding what ForceTheVote is or was. Oh that's easy. The plan was for The Squad to refuse to vote for Pelosi as Speaker unless she promised to hold an up or down vote of Medicare For All, and then leftists could mount successful primary challenges against the Representatives who voted no, based on their lack of support for M4A. Now, you might point out that the M4A bill even if it did pass the House would never be taken up by the Senate, and the Biden had explicitly promised to veto the M4A bill if it came across his desk, meaning that Representatives would be free to vote in favor of the bill even if they opposed it. Like how most of the 2020 candidates co-sponsored the bill but then were opposed to it during the primaries. Or you could point out that Joe loving Biden, the candidate most vocally opposed to M4A, the candidate who had specifically promised to veto M4A if it came across his desk, had just absolutely wiped the floor with Bernie Sanders in the primaries. SO we know that you can't actually defeat a primary opponent based on their M4A position. But if you did point out either of those facts, that just means you're a lib, and you support Joe Biden who is a rapist so you're also an apologist for rape. The whole thing was extremely loving stupid and people got really passionate about it. Basically, Mike N Eich posted:It's wild how all the high profile people that worked Bernie's campaign were 1. extremely stupid 2. extremely annoying and 3. opportunistic as gently caress
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I didn't say that I want to know.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:That interview was garbage and it was embarrassing that they were so proud of it. Nothing but a full hour of Chomsky trying to make a basic point that Biden is the better choice in a one-or-the-other election and BJG trying to do irrelevant thought experiments and complaining about how Biden wasn't going to help her personal causes. yeah we talked about this already and you started complaining about "accelerationists" so I wrote you off immediately.
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Pirate Jet posted:yeah we talked about this already and you started complaining about "accelerationists" so I wrote you off immediately. I'm going to stand by my point that Biden is a better choice than Trump if it's a binary choice. If you think otherwise I'm fine with writing you off as well.
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Gripweed posted:SO we know that you can't actually defeat a primary opponent based on their M4A position. Turns out voters don't know poo poo! 
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:I'm going to stand by my point that Biden is a better choice than Trump if it's a binary choice. If you think otherwise I'm fine with writing you off as well. You and the Democrats and 90% of Bernie voters. You won, so whatever happens is on you and your cohort.
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Bernie Sanders FTW
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UP AND ADAM posted:You and the Democrats and 90% of Bernie voters. You won, so whatever happens is on you and your cohort. I'm not even a US citizen. "Democrats are slightly less poo poo than Republicans" isn't some bold statement I'm making here.
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Sardonik posted:All of this is true but I remember some polling that a majority or sizable amount of Biden primary voters thought he actually supported it. Yeah that really makes it clear that Democrat voters think that all Democrat politicians actually want nice things, but they also don't actually expect any of them to deliver it.
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Turning elections into an idiotic trolley problem was one of the Founders' great achievements...
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Bernie Sanders FTW Gonna have to agree here.
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The beverage guest is a real dud. Who cares, man!!
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I thought it was a neat episode, although I feel like there was a missed opportunity in not discussing the insane three-tier distribution system for alcoholic beverages in this country, a ridiculous example of institutionalized rent-seeking that has empowered a legion of reactionary owners of small-to-medium sized distribution businesses
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HannibalBarca posted:I thought it was a neat episode, although I feel like there was a missed opportunity in not discussing the insane three-tier distribution system for alcoholic beverage in this country, a ridiculous example of institutionalized rent-seeking that has empowered a legion of reactionary owners of small-to-medium sized distribution businesses I haven’t listened to the ep yet and don’t know anything about alcohol distribution but this post made me recall a specific childhood memory. There’s always one kid in your class who cries when their mom leaves for way too long, like 3rd grade it’s still happening the first week of school. His dad was the local beverage distributor. In high school I remember he was very dumb but mostly harmless, and very good at golf due to the amount of time he spent at his parents country club. I remember going to his house and it was insanely large, just room after room barely used or explained. His parents drove me home after a late night golf meet and his dad was absolutely hammered, hanging out the window and smoking a huge cigar. His mom was driving. I remember realizing that this dumb kids dumb dad was just as dumb as he was - but super rich. It was a crack in the meritocratic eugenic idea that only the supremely talented and smart people succeed in America. Anyway I got kicked off the golf team for sucking rear end at it and never saw him again.
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State controlled alcohol policy is the only issue where I agree with Republicans. Get the government out of the business of deciding which rums I can buy.
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Halloween Jack posted:State controlled alcohol policy is the only issue where I agree with Republicans. Get the government out of the business of deciding which rums I can buy. sometimes i think about how i can't buy booze on Sundays in the year of our lord 2023 and laugh. heehee
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uber_stoat posted:sometimes i think about how i can't buy booze on Sundays in the year of our lord 2023 and laugh. heehee I know there was an attempt to repeal this law a couple of years ago but it didn't make it through the legislature.
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It was very strange moving from middle of nowhere Illinois where I could buy beer from a gas station until 1am, up to Milwaukee where you can't buy any alcohol outside of a bar after 9pm.
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I support that one state where liquor is only available through government stores. That seems like a good idea.
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Gripweed posted:I support that one state where liquor is only available through government stores. That seems like a good idea. Growing up in Washington you could only buy liquors in state run stores, and everyone bitched about the hours and locations. Then we decided to privatize everything and now booze is way more expensive lol
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Liquor laws are dumb as poo poo. Texas used to have one that beer over like 5% couldn’t have the word “beer” on the label, it had to say “ale”. So a ton of places wouldn’t sell in Texas because they would have had to alter labels they use everywhere else.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:I'm going to stand by my point that Biden is a better choice than Trump if it's a binary choice. If you think otherwise I'm fine with writing you off as well. The kids are still in cages.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The kids are still in cages. Biden or Trump. One of them is going to president, there are no other options. Which do you prefer?
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Gripweed posted:I support that one state where liquor is only available through government stores. That seems like a good idea. It’s awesome, I can search all the liquor store inventories in the state to find anything I want and the prices are the same everywhere
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Biden or Trump. One of them is going to president, there are no other options. Which do you prefer? The one who did fewer rapes
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Biden or Trump. One of them is going to president, there are no other options. Which do you prefer? Is this really still an interesting line of discussion for anyone here?
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Biden or Trump. One of them is going to president, there are no other options. Which do you prefer? https://twitter.com/i/status/1649584084371349505
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FlamingLiberal posted:Here in FL we still have laws on the books requiring that stores have to have a separate place for you to buy alcohol that is not inside the main store. This causes things like Publixes that sometimes have a Publix Liquors next to the actual supermarket that have their own entrance. One store is communism.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:His written statement is going to show up any day now and then she can give her side of the story. "Keep the Faith, Brie" https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1409372457753055235?s=20 edit: "Virgil plans to make a statement soon and I have not wanted to preempt his statement" - June 28, 2021, lmao
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Biden or Trump. One of them is going to president, there are no other options. Which do you prefer? Ross Perot
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