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Delthalaz posted:What's this poo poo about a new repeal and replace bill? So it must have been a really productive meeting, is what I'm saying. Just the best meeting.
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JVNO posted:Is a bipartisan bill in the realm of possibilities at all? I'm pretty sure the Democrats are opposed to any effort that would reduce the number of insured people. No, since the grand total of republicans who *might* care for decreasing number of uninsured in the Senate is 2, and that's being very generous. That means the most votes it could get would be 50, so would be voted down by Pence on grounds of poor people not suffering being an affront to freedom from his PoV.
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If they had a brain, they'd start work on tax reform.
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Kale posted:
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Kale posted:Can I just say again how much I loving utterly loathe twitter and the braindead idiots, bots and meme macro spammers that reply to everything and call it anything resembling political discourse. Like what a bunch of shrieking idiots replying to half of this stuff, what's the loving point, just do a public statement or something and cut out the twitter factor. Just don't read the replies, man.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:She KNOWS that the GOP will never ever work bipartisanly so she's just calling their bluff. Which is valid. Pelosi is often pretty bad at grandstanding, so this is nice to see.
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I can imagine McTurtle's ghoulish face when reading this, but Ryan probably just wanted to reply with something like  "DON'T. PUSH IT. PELOSI"
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She's trolling them, it's great. quote:As Leader Pelosi writes, “Some of what we have heard is consistent with Leader McConnell’s market stabilization section in the BCRA. These provisions include a Short-Term Stability Fund, Long-Term State Stability and Innovation Program, and Cost-Sharing Subsidies. House Democrats are prepared to support these vital measures and exchange ideas on how we go forward in other respects.” JeffersonClay fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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WampaLord posted:Just don't read the replies, man. That's a fair point, social media is full of complete loving idiots anyway. It's really made Western Democracies substantially dumber in a very quick time. I'm not sure you get this level of straight down the middle division and poo poo spewing idiots running the show in the U.S without social media as a viable platform for spreading it. The very idea of coming together and agreeing on something with your fellow population to get anything actually done isn't even on the table because the sole thing resembling a clear cut policy goal has become "BTFOing" the other parties people on the twitterscape and getting to crow about it. Not enough people care about policy for the sake of improving the country in someway or how things run anymore or what anything on the calendar in the senate or house might mean for them as long as they are convinced it fucks over the "snowflakes" or "cuckservatives" or whoever they're supposed to hate from their side of the aisle. This is just kind of the reality even if Trump goes by the end of 2018 the overall tone of U.S Politics and inability to get anything done in the 2010's won't change for the 2020's much unless social media changes or introduces some new rules or something. Like I'm not talking censorship but the whole decline into tribalism isn't a good look either. Honestly I'm really struggling here guys, I can't think of much that twitter has made better really. Kale fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Office Pig posted:For the love of god just let yourself have this brief moment in time to revel. I mean, I agree, but... Office Pig posted:You wanna bet on this, or do you just feel like peddling more bullshit false hope?
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Covok posted:If they had a brain, they'd start work on tax reform.
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Robot Hobo posted:They kept the first bill locked in the basement of a different building, with armed guards posted to make sure no Democrat would be allowed to even see it. The word "bipartisan" was alternately used by Republican lawmakers as a punchline or an insult. If they did offer to cooperate now, it would stupid to trust for one moment that they'd operate in good faith. I didn't know it would eat my face!
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Majorian posted:I mean, I agree, but... Yeah, I had almost forgotten. I apologize for that, for what it's still worth. Personal uncertainties compounded by the uncertainties of the inmates running the asylum made for a rash outburst you didn't really do anything to deserve.
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Robot Hobo posted:The moment that they move on to any other matters is the moment they admit killing Obamacare is not the most important thing in their world. The instant they do that, Trump declares war on the GOP in Congress, as he's been threatening to do. It's a war they could win... probably... but it's going to be such an unpleasant and costly thing that the Republicans are doing anything they can to delay it. Maybe if they're really lucky, something will come along to distract him just in time. If not, it's going to be a poo poo-show. When congress reconvenes they'll have a little under a month to come up with a strategy to avoid hitting the debt ceiling and they're gonna need a budget soon too. They've wasted so much time on this go nowhere healthcare reform poo poo and now that stuff strikes me as way more important in the very near future because we're about to hit August. That poo poo should have been taken care of before the August recess already, like.....even McConnell seemed to admit it's time to move on from the Healthcare debate in his sore loser speech.
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Office Pig posted:Yeah, I had almost forgotten. I apologize for that, for what it's still worth. Personal uncertainties compounded by the uncertainties of the inmates running the asylum made for a rash outburst you didn't really do anything to deserve. That's totally okay, I was just teasing. It did get a lot closer than I expected, I have to confess.
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Kale posted:When congress reconvenes they'll have a little under a month to come up with a strategy to avoid hitting the debt ceiling and they're gonna need a budget soon too. They've wasted so much time on this go nowhere healthcare reform poo poo and now that stuff strikes me as way more important in the very near future because we're about to hit August. That poo poo should have been taken care of before the August recess already, like.....even McConnell seemed to admit it's time to move on from the Healthcare debate in his sore loser speech.
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Wark Say posted:Didn't he actually say "Mr. President (referring probably to Pence, but also probably directed at Trump), I think it's time to move on" explicitly? Yep and in a very defeated and resigned sounding tone. It wasn't to Pence though cause he had already left by the time they went to take the vote. To be honest I'm 100% sure who the guy was chairing the senate that he was talking too. In his own words Turtle posted:"The American people are going to regret that we couldn't find a better way forward. And as I said, we look forward to our colleagues on the other side suggesting what they have in mind. It's time to move on".
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pillsburysoldier posted:Does Pence believe Trump is a divine agent or something? He really goes hard for that man For evangelicals, this world is just a glorified time share, and an idiot like Trump could hasten the END TIMES...while also making life miserable for all the people who reject Christ's love in the meantime. I'd imagine it also has a "if I'm publicly supportive, he won't do anything that might jeopardize my succeeding him" aspect, too. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Wark Say posted:Didn't he actually say "Mr. President (referring probably to Pence, but also probably directed at Trump), I think it's time to move on" explicitly?
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Robot Hobo posted:The moment that they move on to any other matters is the moment they admit killing Obamacare is not the most important thing in their world. The instant they do that, Trump declares war on the GOP in Congress, as he's been threatening to do. It's a war they could win... probably... but it's going to be such an unpleasant and costly thing that the Republicans are doing anything they can to delay it. Maybe if they're really lucky, something will come along to distract him just in time. If not, it's going to be a poo poo-show. Trump has already, sort of, declared war on congress though hasn't he? He's openly threatened senators on twitter and fired Priebus. It also seems like GOP congressman are starting to turn on him...slowly of course.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Hahahaha, no. Sanctions bill was bipartisan
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Right now there is a guy trying to breed red heifers in Israel to precipitate the end of the world. So yeah Evangelicals are crazy and want the end of the world so they like Trump
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For evangelicals, this world is just a glorified time share, and an idiot like Trump could hasten the END TIMES...while also making life miserable for all the people who reject Christ's love in the meantime. pretty much. basically watch the old documentary jesus camp to get a better idea at how broken these assholes are and that doesnt even show the worst stuff. pillsburysoldier posted:Does Pence believe Trump is a divine agent or something? He really goes hard for that man probaly to an extent. i think pence is trying to look loyal so he survives the various purges and if trump falls, he can take the reins.
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Hollismason posted:Right now there is a guy trying to breed red heifers in Israel to precipitate the end of the world. So yeah Evangelicals are crazy and want the end of the world so they like Trump i dont get that poo poo. i keep my bitter inner atheist inside alot because my gf is pretty religious(not the bad kind) but how the gently caress do these people believe this bullshit. its not loving true. it was written by a bunch of persecuted people writing their angry revenge fantasy against rome/nero/one of them. most of the lovely parts of Christianity are birthed by that gently caress face paul who was probably legit mentally ill and was afraid of his own cock and wanted to the world to die so he could meet the dude he never met because he heard poo poo in his head. it doesnt help that american conservatism has made that poo poo even worse, they took all the bad poo poo the puritans believed and dropped all the decent stuff and here we are.
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Discendo Vox posted:It's likely more than trolling. The Dems may well be setting up to give Republicans an escape hatch re: impeachment. in what way?
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Giggy posted:Trump has already, sort of, declared war on congress though hasn't he? He's openly threatened senators on twitter and fired Priebus. That still leaves the possibility of Trump getting impatient before then anyway, or enough of Congress announcing they have no intention of diving back into healthcare this year. Kale posted:When congress reconvenes they'll have a little under a month to come up with a strategy to avoid hitting the debt ceiling Trump's entire negotiation strategy throughout his career has revolved around one trick. He owes someone money because they did a job/provided goods to him. He then refuses to pay, knowing that the victim probably can't afford to spend all their time and money tied up in a lawsuit to get the promised money. Donald uses this as leverage to get them to drastically lower their asking price, despite having already agreed on the original deal. When Donald Trump says that he's an amazing negotiator, this is what he's talking about, lying, cheating, and then bullying is his signature move, and he's proud of it. When Trump says he's going to use his negotiation skills to get the US better deals, he means that absolutely intends to do this trick, because it's one of only two pages in his entire playbook. He's going to look at this and think that he's finally found an issue that fits into his comfort zone. Donald believes the debt ceiling shouldn't be raised, he may have a way to stop it, and anyone who might be able to explain that it doesn't work this way is someone he now considers an enemy. If someone tells him it'll cause the USA to default, he'll love it, because declaring bankruptcy is his the other play in his playbook. Bankruptcy always worked out for him in the past, and he's made it clear he doesn't believe this situation is any different. (no matter who tries to tell him otherwise)
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i dont get that poo poo. i keep my bitter inner atheist inside alot because my gf is pretty religious(not the bad kind) but how the gently caress do these people believe this bullshit. its not loving true. it was written by a bunch of persecuted people writing their angry revenge fantasy against rome/nero/one of them. most of the lovely parts of Christianity are birthed by that gently caress face paul who was probably legit mentally ill and was afraid of his own cock and wanted to the world to die so he could meet the dude he never met because he heard poo poo in his head. it doesnt help that american conservatism has made that poo poo even worse, they took all the bad poo poo the puritans believed and dropped all the decent stuff and here we are. Yeah, the Pope is writing things like "here's a prayer to help you feel connected with nature and God's creation," meanwhile evangelicals have a hard on for the end of the world. It's loving bizarre. I'm not religious, but one of the above is way less understandable to me than the other.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, the Pope is writing things like "here's a prayer to help you feel connected with nature and God's creation," meanwhile evangelicals have a hard on for the end of the world. It's loving bizarre. I'm not religious, but one of the above is way less understandable to me than the other. Evangelicals broke away from the Pope like 500 years ago. It was kind of a big deal.
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Robot Hobo posted:His threats are mostly of the "You'd better do as I say, or else" variety, leaving Congress one last chance of doing as he demands before he finally snaps. They're all on vacation/recess right now, so it's a threat on-hold, they can't technically disobey his demand until they are back in session. I think the firing of Reince is pretty major though. He was the only real Republican with any power in the white house. I think it's also become clear to the GOP what's been clear to us from the beginning, Trump is incapable of loyalty and will throw any Republican under the bus for the pettiest of reasons. I was watching a clip on Fox Business (which no one watches) and a pundit said exactly this and that Reince deserved better. edit - Also it seems inevitable that Trump is going to get rid of Sessions which would really gently caress him up.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Evangelicals broke away from the Pope like 500 years ago. It was kind of a big deal. Not directly, for one thing, and also it doesn't matter because my main point was that some Christians are pretty chill, but the popular strains in America are sort of nuts.
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