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PoptartsNinja posted:I may be over-nerfing them, but when I say "adjusted brackets" I mean something like this: Aaaah, so you're giving Pulse Lasers the Snubby PPC treatment and increasing their short and medium ranges.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Counterpoint: the LB-X autocannons need to be actually bad at something. Or at least not "best in show" compared to every other autocannon. I'm working on this guy:  (if anyone else grabbed some)
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 I don't think there's too many flubs or inconsistencies, but I'm sure there's a couple! (I'm going to fool around with gimp or photoshop and see if there's a faster way to do those heh because I was clicking pixels in paint.) Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 16:12
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I'll try pitching in on number 3 there.
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Gonna start on  too.
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 This might work, I'm not sure I'm fitting your style sheet though. I may have been too random. vorebane fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 18:32
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 As an aside I think this is a really cool aesthetic even if it makes zero sense architecturally lol
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I'm giving my mousing finger a break but I can probably do the last one pretty quickly since there's a ton of pieces that are easy to copy and paste.
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Fixed some errors I found on the first one I did: Working on that last one now, too. e: 
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Thank you all for the help! That was a big load off my shoulders!vorebane posted:This might work, I'm not sure I'm fitting your style sheet though. I may have been too random. A bit too random, but I appreciate the effort. This is a start I can work with much more easily. Here's the usual height map teaser. It's looking pretty flat... I guess that's what happens when you fight on one of Luthien Armor Works' artificial islands. 
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Jun 28, 2017 23:11
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Ooooh, a crashed dropship. I hope it has surprises.
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Ok I'm glad it can still be useful. I'll give number 2 a swing and try to be less spastic this time.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:21
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What are the pink and green patches?
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I just tried to fill in what looks like the lowest levels first with the darkest shade, then worked my way up one at a time on the palette. (With a few darker bits on the high levels for accent)
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CourValant posted:What are the pink and green patches? The Hell's Horses haven't been watering the grass. 
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Hell's Horses haven't been watering the grass. Ahhh, yes, that's why I was confused. Nature? On LAW Property?? On Black Luthien??? 
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 Ok so I've discovered I'm really good at being spastic. I think this should be better though. Thank you for the opportunity to screw with your wonderful sprite work!
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Will we finally discover the fate of Hero of the Draconis Resistance, Korean Robert?
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CourValant posted:Nature? On LAW Property?? On Black Luthien??? Balance in all things. It can't all be assassin-filled zen rock gardens and koi ponds. Besides, trees make decent canaries. If they're dying on the spot it's time to put the plant into detox mode again.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Besides, trees make decent canaries. If they're dying on the spot it's time to put the plant into detox mode again. "Detox Mode"; Gotcha (smile) 
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Dolash posted:Will we finally discover the fate of Hero of the Draconis Resistance, Korean Robert? You mean Tai-i Hanso Steele?
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Olothreutes posted:Will we see clanners with tandem charge warheads?! That experiment died with Takashi Kurita, hopefully. Plus Clanners almost never use regular SRM racks to fire them out of.
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Simplifying some plans now that I'm writing down numbers and have had a chance to sleep on it. gently caress all those autocannon dice. Current Autocannon Plans: - AC/2 is now the Light Autocannon. 5 damage, Clan LB-5X ranges. I don't think this is any way overpowered because AC/2s are complete garbage. - AC/5 is now the ER Light Autocannon. 5 damage, Clan LB-2X ranges with a twist: Min 10, Short 20, Medium 30, Long N/A (Yes, that means it's +0 ToHit from 11-20 hexes, and +2 to-hit from 1-10 and 21-30). See AC/2. King of medium-long range, but the damage is still lovely. - AC/10 is now the Heavy Autocannon and gets the Clan LB-10X ranges (6/12/18). Yes that's basically a lower-heat ammo-eating PPC. No, I don't see any problems with that. - AC/20 is now the Assault Autocannon and gets the Clan LB-20X ranges (4/8/12) - LBX and Ultra Autocannons are unchanged except they get the old standard Autocannon ranges. I want the specialty autocannons to be sidegrades rather than direct upgrades, they sacrifice a little range for damage/critseeking. Pulse Laser Plans: - Large Pulse Laser is getting 10 damage 4/8/12 range. Short but viable. The -2 ToHit is staying even though I hate it. The Sagittaire is even more of a monster now between pulse lasers, a targeting computer, and its new "friendships shmendships" quirk: improved targeting short. Yeah, that means the Sagittaire's pulse laser range modifiers are effectively -4/-1/1 I mean, they were before too but holy poo poo did I not want to give Large Pulse Lasers any extra range for them to abuse.  - Medium pulse laser is 7 damage 3/6/9 - Small pulse is 5 damage 3/6/-
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Now I want, like, a modded version of Megamek to play around with all these changes, it seems really cool.
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Super ultra ER AC/5 is more BV than an LB-10X
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PoptartsNinja posted:- LBX and Ultra Autocannons are unchanged except they get the old standard Autocannon ranges. I want the specialty autocannons to be sidegrades rather than direct upgrades, they sacrifice a little range for damage/critseeking. The Lights/LBs/Rotaries/Ultras are better than standards to compensate for the greater relative boost DHS gives energy weapons and missiles, as a note. It probably won't matter here since you can also select both the OpFor and player 'mechs, but it's something to keep in mind. The big problem with ballistics is that they started out weak-ish and ended up weaker after DHS came along. Titans of Steel, which is a heavily Battletech-inspired PC game, solved this problem by giving all 'mechs shield systems that only worked against energy weapons and reducing the power of ammo explosions (like, you'd normally only have 1 or 2 rounds of ammo exploding which is Bad But Survivable). It's an interesting thought but would require a deep level rebuild of the mech design system. It also had some pretty cool rules for damaged systems that still worked but less effectively and a pretty neat mech construction system. It felt very 3025-ish, except without the golden BB explosions. Mechs tended to last a while even under heavy fire.
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Gwaihir posted:Now I want, like, a modded version of Megamek to play around with all these changes, it seems really cool. If you can tolerate circa 2014 builds there's a patch that never got merged to allow loading custom equipment via xml files. But that wouldn't let you mess with the custom minimum range rules.
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MJ12 posted:The Lights/LBs/Rotaries/Ultras are better than standards to compensate for the greater relative boost DHS gives energy weapons and missiles, as a note. They're better because the original autocannons were never balanced and Clantech made that imbalance more obvious. I'm just playing around here because I want to actually field a JagerMech (which quirks crippled even more) and I don't want the pilot to feel cheated that they were given a JagerMech rather than something good. If it goes bad I'll revert the changes mid fight if need be. dis astranagant posted:Super ultra ER AC/5 is more BV than an LB-10X It's only one shot for five damage. I'm also still playing with the ranges, we'll see what happens if one of the Clan `Mechs winds up with an AC/5. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:- AC/5 is now the ER Light Autocannon. 5 damage, Clan LB-2X ranges with a twist: Min 10, Short 20, Medium 30, Long N/A (Yes, that means it's +0 ToHit from 11-20 hexes, and +2 to-hit from 1-10 and 21-30). See AC/2. King of medium-long range, but the damage is still lovely. For some reason I cannot wait to see this. [madden] "Now, now look, sometimes you have to let the quarterback use his arm and make plays down the field. And this guy, he's really got a cannon. If you want to, uh, to keep the defense honest you need that in your offense. That'll put points on the scoreboard for you." [/madden]
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I was really hoping I'd have the update done today, but let me share what I've been struggling with. I downloaded the latest version of MegaMek which replaced all the nice, clean `Mech TGAs with... this. VVV A JagerMech. Also a nightmare to clean up into something I can use. A 15-20 minute sprite coloring job has turned into an hour+ clean-up process. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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What the gently caress is that poo poo
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PoptartsNinja posted:It's only one shot for five damage. I'm also still playing with the ranges, we'll see what happens if one of the Clan `Mechs winds up with an AC/5. It is but 30 range with nothing but short and medium brackets gets around that nicely, given a map to abuse. I'd loathe to run into some kind of Annihilator variant wielding them on a hill or open ground. Even if it gets stuck brawling everything counts as medium range under your system changes. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out, if nothing else.
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dis astranagant posted:That experiment died with Takashi Kurita, hopefully. Plus Clanners almost never use regular SRM racks to fire them out of. Fine fine. STREAK tandem charge warheads. 
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Defiance Industries posted:What the gently caress is that poo poo Someone just discovered Photoshop's outer glow tool
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Thick enough outline that you can magic wand that poo poo away pretty easily
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Chronojam posted:Thick enough outline that you can magic wand that poo poo away pretty easily Nope, too much of the outline shares colors with internal details. Trying makes it a disgusting mess. I always do shadows by hand anyway, it just means I have to redo the outlines to get what I want.
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Can't you just grab them from an old version? No need to clean up garbage when backups exist. If you don't have an old version handy and don't want to play guess which version you need I could zip up the images folder from version 40, it has good lineart. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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I always did a little cleanup anyway (because sometimes the old linearts had rare very dark blue pixels rather than black and because my preferred shading doesn't always match MegaMek's). It's unfortunate that I've got to do this for every sprite, but it just means the linework gets to look very bright and colorful while I clean it up.
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