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Some friends and I went Milwaukee to Chicago, and all over downtown Chicago in one day on two Yamaha Jogs and my RV90. The trip was 100-ish miles one way, with another probably 30 miles spend driving around downtown, then another 100 miles back. Two days all said and done. I think we were actually less sore than we would have been on motorcycles. Just stop fairly frequently to take a break.
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Ride Report: Scooting the Republic of West Florida Because of some last minute work responsibilities, I missed Amerivespa in New Orleans this year. I had grand plans of riding from Baton Rouge to New Orleans to take part in the festivities, and was quite disappointed when those plans didn't work out. However, the ladyfriend scored a 2006 Piaggio Fly in wonderful condition from a graduating college student for a crazy great deal a while back and since we couldn't make it to Amerivespa, we decided to take an all-day ride on some country roads in southeastern Louisiana. This ride would start near St. Francisville, take us to the infamous Angola Prison, into Mississippi, back through the Florida Parishes. My father had been clamoring to be the "chase car" for a group ride since I've been doing group rides, so we packed the car with tools, gas, food, and beverages and we all took off in the morning. Thanks to the magic of modern technology, we pretty much took off down just about any rural twisty road for an hour or two before consulting our GPS and figuring out where we were and where we needed to go from there. The first half of the day was spent on smoothly paved up-and-down twisty roads (which was new for us, where we live being a flat river basin), and the second half was spent on dirt/gravel roads and offroad (which was a first for both of us). The good lady's 2006 Piaggio Fly 150 (that's my father in shorts, we gear up):  My 2009 Fly:  Bonus aerial view from somewhere in Mississippi:  All of these photos are from the dirt/gravel jaunts, since we didn't stop very much when we found nicely paved twisty stretches. Low-water bridge near Angola Prison:  View from said bridge:  A nice section of road somewhere during the day:   The whole ride was only about 120-150 miles, but with all of the slow-going dirt, gravel, and off-road stuff, it felt more like a lot more. It was an absolute blast, and I'm actually glad that my work schedule made it impossible for me to attend Amerivespa so that we could do this ride. I hope to do it again soon with more scooterists and with better cameras. Maybe a helmet camera next time; there were some great roads that I'd have loved to have gotten video on, not to mention the gigantic wild turkeys we ran upon. Oh, and the vultures that almost smacked us in the face at 50mph.
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DILLIGAF posted:Not a regular poster here, but I like seeing what you guys have done to your rides. Very cool. I love the old boxy-motorbike aesthetic, it reminds me of a 1914 Harley I saw at a motorcycle show once--so simple.
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This is mine: http://spokane.craigslist.org/mcy/2482448864.html "Cleaning out an old project that I don't have extra time for. This is a 1972 Vespa P200 body coupled with a 2002 Bajaj Legend complete 4-stroke engine. Not a common swap but maybe you're not a common scooter owner (I, apparently, am). The engine/transmission assembly is a close fit to the original but some adjusting will be necessary. Includes complete wiring harness from the donor Bajaj and all wiring as original to the P200 body as well as diagrams for both. Side covers, battery, exhaust, cargo rack, restorable seat, extra wheels/tires & Bajaj front fork are included. Engine has under 3000 miles on it and will turn over when the starter is hooked up or via the kickstarter but does not run. Please email with questions; I'd be happy to show this to anyone interested in getting this unique beast on the road!"  More pics in this imgur album: http://imgur.com/a/kOk47 Goon price $200... email (me) at gmail if interested. Cheers!
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It's rally season! Scooter Insanity 24: The Rally to Restore Insanity happened here in Seattle last weekend. I only participated in the Friday and early Saturday events since I left town partway through. To try out this newfangled Google+ business, here is a link to a gallery. There are only 22 pics. I should've taken more, but I was having fun bullshitting with people instead. There were some beautiful classic bikes that turned up. ... including a loving Zundapp Bella! I had never seen one in person. He has two!  Notice the right-side foot shift. Rear brake was his left heel! Crazy bikes. Beautiful Allstate:  I had never seen a Lambretta of this style/vintage, and it appeared to be in perfect condition, too:  The fins are metal and welded on. There are actual toy F/A-18s attached to the cowls for the full effect:  Chatted with this guy about his paintjob, it looks much better in person. Something like 13 coats of candy orange on top of the flake:  As the sun moved he parked it across the street for glisteny photos, but I didn't get any:  Perhaps my favorite bike there. He rolled without an engine-side cowl, and had an expansion pipe and some other goodies. So pretty:  Photo doesn't catch it, but this had a very subtle metallic finish:  All in all it was really fun, kind of regret not staying for all of it. But! There are a lot of other rallies going on, including two later this month (Seattle Tour di Mari 7/22-24, and Bellingham Hamster Run 7/29-31). e: Oh, someone got video! There might be others, but this is about 10 minutes of the big ride. It was much longer than that. I'm in it for a while. He rear-ended me a little at a stop (~5:30) while he was leaning back to check his GoPro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM7p71CjzIs Gay Nudist Dad fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jul 8, 2011 |
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Purgey posted:Ok, well after a financing disagreement I ended up not getting the Blur 220i but instead purchased a new 2010 Honda Elite as my first scooter. I was actually looking at the Honda Elite. Have any follow up on how you feel about it now that you've had it a couple months (hope you still check this thread!)? ALSO, let me introduce myself. I was thinking about getting a scooter. My budget would probably be around the 2000-2500 dollar range. I lived in Los Angeles for a couple years and I realized that while I'll still always hold on to a car, a scooter would be perfect for a lot of the surface street driving I would do. Namely that if I'm taking some of the major thoroughfares (For you LA folks I'm thinking Santa Monica Blvd. from the westside to Hollywood) I could save a poo poo ton of time during the day since it always gets gridlocked when you hit the Beverly Hills area....and Lane splitting is allowed! One thing I'm concerned about is night riding. Now I wouldn't really plan on riding heavily at night by any means, but I was just wondering if any of you ever get put in a position where you have to ride at night? Any issues? Basically Los Angeles surface streets are all generally well lit, but they are pretty lovely and bumpy and just like when I ride my bicycle, I basically avoid riding at night because it still is a CAR town that doesn't really give a poo poo about any other types of traffic. That said, I think the fact that it basically never rains in Los Angeles makes it an optimal scooter town as well. Soooo....anyone else have experience with the Honda Elite? Or one in that class/size? Any suggestions so I don't make any noob mistakes?
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soggybagel posted:I was actually looking at the Honda Elite. Have any follow up on how you feel about it now that you've had it a couple months (hope you still check this thread!)? Yay, a chance to talk! I love my scooter for what it is and certainly don't regret the purchase. Its a Honda, so you can really count on it starting up and going every time you roll it off the center stand. I feel sort of bad for mistreating mine (flogging it, mildly lowsided it once, barely cleaning it) but the internals really are about as close to bulletproof as you can get. Perks I've relished with my scooter is that its very nimble and easy to ride. An ideal beginner's tool. Additionally, the body is so narrow you'll slip through traffic to get to that turn on red or what have you (in Illinois lane splitting is frowned upon but damned if I won't do it anyway from time to time). So if you're looking for a commuter scoot for the burbs and city this is pretty much a great choice from my perspective. Also, while the speed is not amazing you have a lot more pep than all the nameless slushbox sedans out there, which means you're not going to be struggling to keep ahead from a stoplight unless some dick is purposefully trying to race with you for god knows why. However, the faster you go the easier cars will overtake you as you have less and less engine to play with. I have to say thats my impetus for wanting to move up to a larger displacement. There is no feeling worse than being tapped out. "I can move laterally or I can stop, but I have no options for going forward more than I currently am", quite constricting at times. My questions and concerns for you would be about personal preference. Do you feel limited by the lack of 50+ mph top speed? Are you tall, say 6' or higher? If you're taller like myself you'll feel kind of cramped. Also if you think you'll crave more speed down the road you'll probably be regretting the Elite's engine displacement sooner than you'd think. The plus side is the gas mileage is well and truly excellent. Even with a CVT and copious engine flogging you can hit around 100mpg. As for night riding? I don't do that too often but when I did I really had to be careful. The darkness makes it hard to see things on the road like ninja-gravel, sand, a pothole, a kid, etc. Just take it slow and you'll be fine though. And don't trust the cages! Frankly if I could go back in time I'd make myself try even harder for the Blur 220i, or even try to find a Honda PCX since those look sharper than the Elite. The Elite is more than a little dorky lookin' Also 1500 miles so far since I bought in the spring. 
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Jul 9, 2011 15:17
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Night riding has it's own set of considerations but honestly I think it sounds scarier to a non-rider than it is to a rider. It's not that different (same with rain).
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Elite was a starting point. I've seen after reading this whole thread last night that there are a lot of stylish options though some of the most stylish are a bit more expensive. Luckily I'm a pretty short guy. I'm 5'8" and about 160 pounds. So I won't be cramped on any of them. 50 mph tops is fine in my mind. I'll be staying on surface roads in the greater Los Angeles area. So I should be fine almost anytime of the day due to traffic volume. If you don't mind me asking Purgery, where do you live? Nevermind...looks like you are in Illinois. As I said before though, Los Angeles just seems like the perfect scooter place because of the lane splitting + it rarely ever raining + it during half the year even inland not being offensively hot.
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soggybagel posted:Elite was a starting point. I've seen after reading this whole thread last night that there are a lot of stylish options though some of the most stylish are a bit more expensive. Luckily I'm a pretty short guy. I'm 5'8" and about 160 pounds. So I won't be cramped on any of them. 50 mph tops is fine in my mind. I'll be staying on surface roads in the greater Los Angeles area. So I should be fine almost anytime of the day due to traffic volume. Sounds like your minds about made up. I say go for it! The Elite is an excellent price and value. You'll save a lot of gas money, save time on commutes, and you'll have lots of fun. Plus, decent resale value due to Honda longevity.
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As I mentioned previously, I ended up with a Honda SH150i, which is nice for that little bit of extra power. It tops out around 65 and still gets around 70MPG when flogged. If you're going to go high speed, I would highly recommend the windscreen though. (I have both the screen and cargo trunk, well worth it.)
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    I drove the poo poo out of this thing. 10,000 miles in a year, and I lived 8 miles from work. Not even sure how that happened. 75 mph, 70 mpg. I regret selling it, made enough off it to upgrade to a bike. I'd personally like to thank the members of the Indian royal family who decided to license the name "Lambretta" for their awesome Taiwanese made scooter because it made this Adly Nobel 150 cost absolutely nothing brand new since it was boycotted wholesale by weird vintage scooter enthusiasts. No offence to weird vintage scooter enthusiasts.
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So I was wondering. Do many scooterists stick audio systems on their scoots? How many extra amps can the average 50cc charging system handle? I'm leaving on my Yamaha C3 tomorrow to go from LA to Washington state to see my girl, and it should take me about 4 days, and man, it would be nice if I could have an audio system that didn't require me to screw with earphones. I've gone through more earphones than I can count, and I figure it doesn't take much to drown out the wind at 35mph, so could I get by with some cheapo speakers and a tiny amp to hook up my mp3 player to? edit: like one of these?
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I went to a scooter meet this weekend and shot some scooter porn for ya'll. This really made me want a ruckus with a big(ger) motor in it.     
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I have a maniacal compulsion to completely remove any trade in value my Rattler may have. Here is what I have done so far. Added an Aaoogah horn. Replaced the mirrors with handle bar end mounted mirrors. Removed the very FACE of my scooter to add lights sufficiently bright enough to drive at night in areas without streetlights.  Some sacrifices have been made.   I welcome any feedback or ideas anyone may have for making my scoot prettier.
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You gotta find a way to fill the hole left by the headlight panel. I actually really like the way that headlight looks with the shape of that scooter, but it'd look way better with that hole covered.
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I'm kind of leaning toward getting a sheet of black kydex plastic that I can shape with my paint stripper heat gun to make a new panel and spinning the big light upside down to reduce the open space.
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Has anyone had some issues with grip weakness after a lot of scooter riding? I'm on a road trip, and a couchsurfing host fell through, and I ended up basically riding 36 hours straight, and now my grip strength feels super weak. Also my rear end and back hurt, but that's a pretty obvious consequence.
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If you're white knuckling it the whole way I could see it, but other than that, I dont know why you'd be having grip issues.
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My 2T Stella is heading into the shop this weekend and I was hoping I could get some thoughts on what might be wrong with it. I bought it in October of 2010 so it is still within warranty, thankfully. It has about 475 miles on it because I'm not the sort to drive it in the New England winter. When these problems started happening the first thing I checked was the oil levels. The engine oil indicator was still full of blue oil, with only a few bubbles. The gearbox oil also had a few bubbles but was above the minimum level. I took it out on Saturday and noticed that the engine was a lot louder than normal. It had a clanging/clacking noise. I didn't ride it that much and figured something was up but I would bring it into the shop as soon as I was able. Cue Sunday, riding along (only about 5 - 10 miles) and the engine noise gets a lot louder. I'm in fourth gear and the engine power just gives out. Engine stalls so I pull in the clutch and get to the side of the road. I wait a few minutes, check the oil levels again and start it back up. It drives fine, but loud, and then cuts out a few times until I'm close to home. I push it the rest of the way (hey cool guy!) and now I'm just waiting on a day I can be around to let the roadside assistance cart it down to the shop. From what I've read online it sounds like a soft seize. I figure it can be all fixed under warranty because it has less than 500 miles and all of the oil indicators looked normal to me. For whatever it is worth I always make sure the choke is pushed all the way in after I start. I also noticed on the Sunday drive that whenever I put on the right indicator it would stay light and wouldn't make the pining noise. It would just make the noise continuously like something was stuck on. Not sure if this matters, but over the weekend is was probably around 90 - 100 degrees out. I never drive it for that long, just to commute to work and back. At most it is probably 5 - 15 miles away from my work depending on where I stay. Am I missing something that I've done that could make it so the cost has to come out of my wallet?
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What do you mean louder? Like, revving high, or louder exhaust, or singing showtunes? If it was revving high, that's generally a sign of an air leak, and if you let it keep doing that it could certainly seize (since now it's getting more air than it's supposed to, but the same amount of fuel, and thus running very lean AND at high RPM). And how did you "check" the transmission oil? There's not really a way to do it. There's no sight glass, or dipstick, and nothing is visible through the fill hole. Transmission oil isn't in play here, though. For future reference, if you see any bubbles in the 2-stroke oil sight glass, it's time to fill it. Unless it was really low (like more than 1/3-1/2 of the white part showing) I doubt the engine was starved for oil or anything. Now, since you didn't make any changes it doesn't really sound like it was something you caused initially, but since you rode it with "clanging/clacking noises" you sure as hell may have made it worse. At least the turn signal part is straightforward: if you look, when you turn on that signal, one bulb will be constantly lit and the other will be off. The one that is off is either a dead bulb or has a bad connection.
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Now, since you didn't make any changes it doesn't really sound like it was something you caused initially, but since you rode it with "clanging/clacking noises" you sure as hell may have made it worse. To pull this quote out, you're totally right. I knew I was in the wrong on this but wasn't thinking. No real excuse on that. As far as the engine sounding louder it sounded like a card clacking in the spokes of a tire, only louder. Most likely something clanging around in the engine. You're right, I did not check the transmission oil. I check the 2 stroke oil indicator, with a few bubbles. I knew that was a sign to change it, but I figured if none of the white was showing then I would change it when the engine hit 500 miles. The other oil level I checked was the oil level on the front brake. I am a bad scooter owner but I assumed that was the brake oil fluid. I know I looked at the diagram once but then promptly forgot in my rush to start riding. Yeah, the turn signal would work intermittently so I figured it was a bad connection. I also have a bad high beam (worked intermittently). I am in the wrong here but it was one of those things where I said "well, the engine oil is doing alright and there are a few small things wrong but I'll wait a few days until I bring it into the shop." I was going to bring it in on this weekend already, it just sucks that now it has to be brought in on a stretcher instead of ridden into the shop.
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These Stellas can be finicky bitches. They're certainly no Hondas: while they can be drat reliable, they require attentive ownership. The fluid reservoir by the front brake level is indeed brake fluid (not oil), and something to keep an eye on, but it has nothing to do with engines. The 2t oil doesn't need to be "changed," simply "added to." The tank will hold about a quart of 2-stroke oil, so when you start to see bubbles hit up the shop, buy a bottle, and dump it in. Generally you'll get about 500mi to a 2t tank, but your dealer may not have filled it up when you bought it, and your mileage may vary (like gas). Regarding the lights, both of these have happened to me, and more. Both turn signals have taken turns not working, my headlight used to flicker out when I shifted it (and then not work in 3rd, before flat-out not working), and now my horn only works on occasion. Wiring is really the weak point on these scooters. While you're in warranty take advantage of it, but you'll need to get familiar with taking off your headset. Your high beam (and formerly my headlight, and currently my horn) problem is because the wires for those rotate when you shift. In certain positions, the wires will be pulled slightly off connection. If you open up the switch panel (one screw in between the horn button/headlight switch) you can just use a small screwdriver to tighten the wires back down on the posts. Turnsignal wiring can be found behind the turn signal switch (duh), inside the cowls, and inside the glovebox. I've had bad wiring for one of my front turn signals. Since the cowls come off, there's a special wire for the rear turn signals that ends in what looks like a nail head that makes contact with the body of the scooter to complete the circuit. I had that nail head come off, and needed a new wire ($5). I do not know what would've cause the clacking sound; I'll spare you my harebrained theories. In the future, definitely don't ride it when it's making weird noises. Good luck getting this all fixed! Fight them if they try to deny you anything warranty ... maybe don't mention that you rode it when it was clacking.
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:The 2t oil doesn't need to be "changed," simply "added to." The tank will hold about a quart of 2-stroke oil, so when you start to see bubbles hit up the shop, buy a bottle, and dump it in. Generally you'll get about 500mi to a 2t tank, but your dealer may not have filled it up when you bought it, and your mileage may vary (like gas). Yeah, did they not explain at the shop (I think you said it was Scooters Go Green) how a 2 stroke engine works at all? That oil gets burned up along with the gas and is very, very important. I top off my P's oil every hundred miles or so just in case I get caught somewhere with no 2-stroke available. I suppose your oil injector may have stopped working or gotten clogged which would be the same as running without oil. Clangy clang sounds could be rod knock or a slew of other things. Also, check if your side panels are on correctly and tight - the rear signal grounds to the frame at the spring connection (at least it does on the P, not sure if the Stella is the same.)
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cheesebot posted:Yeah, did they not explain at the shop (I think you said it was Scooters Go Green) how a 2 stroke engine works at all? That oil gets burned up along with the gas and is very, very important. I top off my P's oil every hundred miles or so just in case I get caught somewhere with no 2-stroke available. Oh, I didn't want to shed any sort of bad light on Scooters Go Green. I know how a 2 stroke engine works but figured if my oil indicator had just started to show some bubbles then I still had a bit before I needed to start adding oil. I'll know better from now on.
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mrwrong posted:Oh, I didn't want to shed any sort of bad light on Scooters Go Green. I know how a 2 stroke engine works but figured if my oil indicator had just started to show some bubbles then I still had a bit before I needed to start adding oil. I'll know better from now on. The bubble is not really intuitive. I assumed half bubble = half tank when I first got mine, but really it's probably more like half bubble = sixth tank.
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M4rg4r1ne posted:Are you concerned at all about parts availability? Yes, but I was under the impression they would be interchangeable with a lot of Vespa parts of the same vintage.
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Peace Scooters: Chinese crap with a shiny Engrish-free (so far) website or a good buy for the money? Leaning towards the former, googling yields very little since "peace adventure" and "peace freedom" gives you so much unrelated junk.
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MJP posted:Peace Scooters: Chinese crap with a shiny Engrish-free (so far) website or a good buy for the money? Wow, you can get crap delivered right to your door - run away.
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If they're advertising that they're GAS SCOOTERS, run. Having no name associated with them is a big stop sign.
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Synonamess Botch posted:Yes, but I was under the impression they would be interchangeable with a lot of Vespa parts of the same vintage. There's a lot of stuff with the Bajaj name attached. If you're talking one of the old Vespa clones (like the '66 Vespa VBB clone my friend has), yeah, that stuff'll carry right over. Their derivatives (like the Chetak or Legend) should be good bikes and some parts will probably be fairly available. There's also stuff currently sold here as Argo that is related to Bajaj, and those I think are generic designs but probably higher quality than your average generic Chinese bike. MJP: avoid those.
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Thanks to Peace Scooters, I have seen that the Chinese are now cloning the second-generation Yamaha Vino. Also I was surprised at just how quickly a Chinese scooter will rust. Thanks, co-worker who opted to buy a Sunny Scooter instead of a Honda Ruckus.
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Thanks for the confirmation on Peace, I figured it was just smart phrasing and web design over shoddy products. Kymco Agility 125 - thoughts? Justgottascoot and others say it's well put together and not terrible for a Taiwanese scooter.
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MJP posted:Thanks for the confirmation on Peace, I figured it was just smart phrasing and web design over shoddy products.
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The Agility is basically as cheap as you can go and still get a well-made scooter. They are significantly less expensive than their competition - last I looked MSRP on an Agility 125 was ~$2k, versus ~$2.5k+ for other name-brand 125s. They are made cheaply, but apparently not where it counts. When you sit on one versus a Genuine or other Kymco, the switchgear, seat, body panels, etc., all that stuff is very cheap but functional. Mechanically, though, it should be solid. Don't get hung up on buying new, though. There are a lot of great used scooters.
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Yeah, I'm on my permit now but will be taking the BRC pretty soon, which is instant license when completed. I'm also looking at Helixes and Reflexes - any other decent similar models of 250cc semi-maxi scooter I should be looking for used? Trying to keep it at or below the $1500-$2000 range, daily commuter (10 minute drive to train station) and occasional fun ride here and there.
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THe only problem with Kymco is their customer service. East Side Scooters in Nashville carried Kymco for years but Kymco never wrote them one check for work done under warranty. After months of working on a customers Exciting 500 that wouldn't go faster than 70mph they shipped the motor to Kymco. It took a month to get it back and when they popped it back in it had the same problem. Kymco had no idea what to do so they exchanged the old Exciting for a brand new one. A couple of days after that East Side Scooters received a letter from Kymco saying that East Side Scooters was no longer an authorized Kymco dealer. TL,DNR: Kymco punishes dealerships that try to honor their warranties.
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