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BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

Portrait 2: Fran

Being too high on sugar to notice, this silly girl has no idea that she is trained in the dark arts, and assumes that the enemies are simple rolling over to be petted instead of rolling in pain.

Of course, being unaware of danger at any moment, she is extremely likely to be randomly killed by a monster's attack, as fragile casters tend to do.



I wanted a character to be the complete opposite of how her class should act, so I went with 2, as it was the least edgy-looking face.

BlazeEmblem fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Aug 7, 2013

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Death Dealer
Jul 25, 2006

It goes against the grain of audience participation, but I wouldn't mind if you made the Hexer to your liking since it's the last class we'll be seeing this game. It fits as a nice capstone of sorts, but barring that I'm going to have to vote for Koenig because even though hipsters are a little played out at this point, the idea of a hipster Hexer amuses me.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



W.T. Fits posted:

Koenig

Portrait 3

A smug bastard who's completely full of himself. He could explain to you what it is he does, but it's not like you'd actually get it. It's a really ancient, obscure branch of cursing that you've probably never even heard of. Was exploring the labyrinth before it was popular. Still does so, but only ironically.

Also, totally not a vampire.

This one.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

This guilds too much of a sausage fest and Fran makes me snicker so I say go with her.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Portarait 1: Umbris

He's as evil as they come, or at least that's what he'd like for you to think. He's actually got a real big soft spot for cuddly animals, but no it's clearly all part of his masterful plan to lull them into a false sense of security before sacrificing them to some dark God he probably didn't just make up on the spot or something. His actual name may or may not be Steve.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Fran

Not too sure about a status effect-based class.

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008

Chapter DOOF



Looking forward to this, the 4th Stratum is my favorite stratum in the game, and if you had told me the Desert level would be the best before I started playing I'd have slapped you. It's just so chock full of "poo poo getting realness", even the regular battle theme gets in on the action.

On that note, make sure you listen to the track for the stratum all the way through, it really kicks into gear after a minute or so.

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012
Lemme throw my hat into this.

Portrait 4: Nott

A quite reclusive young woman who once hailed from a nomadic tribe. No one knew at the time but she bore talent in cursemaking that soon, unintentionally, destroyed her people. She was found wandering alone in the wastes before being rescued and properly schooled in her magic. Tends to only talk up when bad luck happens.

Skill Focus: Evil Eye + Suicide, Leaden, Sapping, Fragile.

Tuxedo Ted
Apr 24, 2007

Heck, let's try it.

Portrait 2: Sophita

Born under a dark star, she was cursed with horrible fortune from her first day. Ultimately, in her search to rid herself of her bad luck she found a way to do the next best thing: magically collecting and foisting all her bad fortune on unsuspecting victims with hexes. Despite all the rough times, she's not black-hearted enough to do so on the undeserving, so she adventures as a way to find a convenient outlet (and to meet other people now that there's no worry of friends getting caught up in some disaster she caused). Incredibly laid-back since her discovery, she takes all manner of disappointments and bad turns in stride since she knows it's genuine bad luck and not a result of her curse anymore. After all, it could be worse, much much worse. She should know.

Also has like five cats back home.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

One more for Fran.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Portrait 1: Rasputin

Looks and talks eerily similar to a certain Russian warlock.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So, just to get this straight, anything you unlock in the shops, even consumable items, are permanently unlocked for purchase unless you say otherwise?

That must have been a really big strawberry.

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

Glazius posted:

So, just to get this straight, anything you unlock in the shops, even consumable items, are permanently unlocked for purchase unless you say otherwise?

That must have been a really big strawberry.

I can't remember how it is in 1 and 2, but in 3, for consumables you have to collect materials for each one you buy. In 4 you have to do this for everything including weapons and armor, which I guess makes the most sense.

Arctic Cress
Oct 23, 2010

Glazius posted:

So, just to get this straight, anything you unlock in the shops, even consumable items, are permanently unlocked for purchase unless you say otherwise?

That must have been a really big strawberry.

Most items in 1 are like this, but there are a few items, mostly end-game ones, that need a material (or multiple ones) each time you purchase one.

AccidentalHipster
Jul 5, 2013

Whadda ya MEAN ya never heard of Dan Brereton?
Probably too late to be in the running, but what the heck.

Portrait 2: Sallya

The greatest Hexer to ever live with the power to turn all who stand before her into little more than doomed wretches who quail helplessly before her might!!! ...is what she wishes she could be. The truth of the matter is, she's too inexperienced with hexes (or much of anything else adventurer-ish really) to make them the soul shattering spells they should be and largely relies on "special brews" (really just foul smelling failed cooking experiments) to reach the intended effect. She also has pretty much zero brain-to-mouth filter as well as a fragile sense of self worth which can make for a rather trying (or hilarious) combination at times.

Possible interactions with the other party members could include awkwardly latching on to the members who complement her or watch out for her and muttering impotent threats against the ones who are critical of her. Her concoctions could also be a possible conversation point (especially with Alvis) with her giving wildly inconsistent explanations and excuses for how and why they work (or don't work as the case may be).

As for Skills, I think that focusing on debuffs is always a smart move for Atlus games and the binding Skills could be very useful, especially if she gets paired up with Richter. I'm not set on anything though.

AccidentalHipster fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Aug 12, 2013

100percentjesusfree
Mar 18, 2009

FOE! FOE!
100% FOE!

Glazius posted:

So, just to get this straight, anything you unlock in the shops, even consumable items, are permanently unlocked for purchase unless you say otherwise?

That must have been a really big strawberry.

Indeed, yeah. I think the only items we have at present that require us to find a new item for each one are the two that have come from rare drops from late bosses (the Meteor Axe from Golem's conditional drop and the Hachi from Royalant's rare drop) - as far as I can remember, all consumables in this game come in unlimited quantities as soon as you find the items you need for just one. It's perhaps not the most sensible approach from a making-sense perspective, but it's fairly non-frustrating, at least. Having to go farm strawberries and ant honey whenever I needed more amrita IIs would probably get very annoying very fast. :v:

Anyway, character creation's been open for more or less a week, so I think now's a good enough time to close it, and just ask people to vote on... a few things, actually.

First off, which of the new characters should we go with? For a convenient list and such:

W.T. Fits posted:

Koenig

Portrait 3

A smug bastard who's completely full of himself. He could explain to you what it is he does, but it's not like you'd actually get it. It's a really ancient, obscure branch of cursing that you've probably never even heard of. Was exploring the labyrinth before it was popular. Still does so, but only ironically.

Also, totally not a vampire.

'Totally not a vampire', eh? I'm sure he'd get on well with Richter. :v:

Currently sitting at a total of 3 votes, if I assume everyone would probably vote for their own character.

thenightsshadow posted:

Portrait 2 - Mistral

A quiet and ditzy hexer whose curses seem only to work with an accompanying trip. Seems used to conversations and likes talking, but refuses to talk bad about anyone. Monsters, on the other hand...


Mistral would probably have me constantly songs from MGR:R while writing... that game is entirely too fun.

1 vote so far!

GeneralYeti posted:

Portrait 4: Shizu

Quiet and self-assured, she'll explain what she's doing, but only if you ask. From a faraway land where loud chatter is polite, she's scandalized by the Runaway Guild.

Seeing as I am sometimes bad at spelling, my first thought was uh, well...



:v:

1 vote here, too.

BlazeEmblem posted:

Portrait 2: Fran

Being too high on sugar to notice, this silly girl has no idea that she is trained in the dark arts, and assumes that the enemies are simple rolling over to be petted instead of rolling in pain.

Of course, being unaware of danger at any moment, she is extremely likely to be randomly killed by a monster's attack, as fragile casters tend to do.



I wanted a character to be the complete opposite of how her class should act, so I went with 2, as it was the least edgy-looking face.

This idea amuses me entirely too much, I must admit. Still, I'd feel unfair voting myself. :v:

4 votes, so far.

Junpei Hyde posted:

Portarait 1: Umbris

He's as evil as they come, or at least that's what he'd like for you to think. He's actually got a real big soft spot for cuddly animals, but no it's clearly all part of his masterful plan to lull them into a false sense of security before sacrificing them to some dark God he probably didn't just make up on the spot or something. His actual name may or may not be Steve.

For some reason, this guy reminds me of uh... what's his name, the hamster-loving ninja guy in the DR2 thread. I'm terrible at remembering names, especially Japanese ones. :v:

Also has one vote thus far.


cdyoung posted:

Lemme throw my hat into this.

Portrait 4: Nott

A quite reclusive young woman who once hailed from a nomadic tribe. No one knew at the time but she bore talent in cursemaking that soon, unintentionally, destroyed her people. She was found wandering alone in the wastes before being rescued and properly schooled in her magic. Tends to only talk up when bad luck happens.

Skill Focus: Evil Eye + Suicide, Leaden, Sapping, Fragile.

Hey, a character where I'd actually feel semi-justified when I do the find->replace thing to put talking heads in, and there're only a few instances of them talking. :v:

Has nott got more than 1 vote yet, though.

Tuxedo Ted posted:

Heck, let's try it.

Portrait 2: Sophita

Born under a dark star, she was cursed with horrible fortune from her first day. Ultimately, in her search to rid herself of her bad luck she found a way to do the next best thing: magically collecting and foisting all her bad fortune on unsuspecting victims with hexes. Despite all the rough times, she's not black-hearted enough to do so on the undeserving, so she adventures as a way to find a convenient outlet (and to meet other people now that there's no worry of friends getting caught up in some disaster she caused). Incredibly laid-back since her discovery, she takes all manner of disappointments and bad turns in stride since she knows it's genuine bad luck and not a result of her curse anymore. After all, it could be worse, much much worse. She should know.

Also has like five cats back home.

Thanks to this character, I remembered Sophitia from Soul Calibur, purely thanks to the name. A quick GIS later, and all I can't help but wonder what the hell happened to her outfit over the years. S'like she was constantly having strips of cloth cut from it in every game and never bothered replacing them. :v:

This probably isn't the right thread for that discussion, though. Sophita has one vote, too.

Libluini posted:

Portrait 1: Rasputin

Looks and talks eerily similar to a certain Russian warlock.

I think you already have a character! Isn't Dietrich yours? (or is my second post telling horrible, horrible lies?)

Regardless, also sitting at one vote.

AccidentalHipster posted:

Probably too late to be in the running, but what the heck.

Portrait 2: Sallya

The greatest Hexer to ever live with the power to turn all who stand before her into little more than doomed wretches who quail helplessly before her might!!! ...is what she wishes she could be. The truth of the matter is, she's too inexperienced with hexes (or much of anything else adventurer-ish really) to make them the soul shattering spells they should be and largely relies on "special brews" (really just foul smelling failed cooking experiments) to reach the intended effect. She also has pretty much zero brain-to-mouth filter as well as a fragile sense of self worth which can make for a rather trying (or hilarious) combination at times.

Possible interactions with the other party members could include awkwardly latching on to the members who complement her or watch out for her and muttering impotent threats against the ones who are critical of her. Her concoctions could also be a possible conversation point (especially with Alvis) with her giving wildly inconsistent explanations and excuses for how and why they work (or don't work as the case may be).

As for Skills, I think that focusing on debuffs is always a smart move for Atlus games and the binding Skills could be very useful, especially if she gets paired up with Richter. I'm not set on anything though.

Very nearly missed you! You're right, bind-based shenanigans can be great, and would give me a good reason to give Richter some points in Ecstasy.

If I recall correctly, there's a certain moment quite a bit later where binds can be used to rather hilarious effect. (There's also a conditional drop in this stratum that relies on being able to bind an FOE, so Hexers are pretty good at that, at least!)

Anyway, also has One vote. Congrats on getting in moments before I closed character creation! :v:


If I missed you, let me know!

As a quick summary, the two people who have been most popular so far are Koenig and Fran - I'd be perfectly happy with either, both could have some amusing dialogue to write.

I'm not opposed to anyone else suddenly coming up from behind and winning, though! So, the first thing to vote on - which of these hexers seems the most fun? - Whoever wins will be joining the party. Voting will be open pretty much until I really want to get back to playing EO, which could happen at any time!

Still, I mentioned that there's more than one thing to vote on. The other thing - who should we explore the new stratum with?

A stat/skill update for everyone, as well as a bit of a reminder about what they're about :



Hector was our guild's founding member, and is something of a glory hog. Regularly brought to face-palming by his party members' antics, he still does his job, protecting everyone the best he can - even if most of his protection comes from getting hit because he's trying to hog all the glory from a fight.



Jill is... going to be in the party, because I don't want to die. Stratum 4 is no place to dick about. :v:

Regardless, she's our party's healer, and is mostly fairly serious, personality-wise! Not overly fond of undead, so she's glad none have showed up, Richter seems to regularly get on her nerves.



Up 'til recently, Dietrich was the party's king of physical damage. Now, he's merely relegated to being the king of multi-target physical damage. :v: He's a German mercenary, lost in time and space... but keeps it largely to himself, so as to not appear nuts. Besides, the money and food are good in Etria, so why try to rush home?



More interested in science and discovery than loot, Alvis is a bit of an oddball adventurer. Still, his power to blast everything with lightning makes him an invaluable ally! His ability to turn everything's blood to poison, on the other hand, is not super useful anymore.



Keyser is a fantastic bard
though writing for him can be hard
he speaks mostly in verse
and can be a touch terse
but on the whole, he's a bit of a card.







State of the art resource-gathering robots. Not actually characters, included here mostly for the sake of completion.



When not arguing with Jill, Richter is tirelessly scouring the labyrinth for any trace of undead monsters, to whip to death. Sadly, vampire bats are the closest he's found thus far.



Serasmus is a less specialised alchemist, capable of using fire and frost to great effect, but generally believes in having an adaptive approach to magic rather than setting his ways in stone. He's generally kind of bitter and cynical, and is generally less-than amused by the rest of the party.



Alex snuck into the party in order to make cash, and it's all coming up pretty great so far. She's also convinced me that survivalists were a lot better than I thought, so yay. :v:



Musashi is a possibly slightly senile swordsman, full of strange stories from his homeland. Due to this game having an odd sense of balance and loot timing, he currently has the third most powerful katana in the entire game, and deals ridiculous amounts of damage.

Anyway, with that reminder out of the way, feel free to vote for whichever 3 members you'd like to see go into the next stratum!

Jill and Whichever hexer wins will definitely be party members, so when voting, bear in mind that 2 out of 3 back-row slots are already taken. :v:

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
Aight. I'll throw my hat in for Fran, and I think she and Jill should be accompanied by Serasmus, Hector and Dietrich. Let's get some of the old guard back in here, I miss them. :3:

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

Hector, Richter, Keyser, Jill, Koenig

GeneralYeti
Jul 22, 2012

Look at this smug broken asshole.
Bring along Fran, Serasmus, Hector, and Mushashi. A combination of the old and the new.

Now we just need something borrowed and something blue.

edit: I can't count

GeneralYeti fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Aug 12, 2013

Turncoat Mommy
Oct 3, 2010

I believe in you.
Keyser, Farmbot1, Farmbot4 also I vote the hexer is best buds with Keyser and they go on adventures and...

Son Ryo
Jun 13, 2007
Excuse me, do you know where Saiyans hang out?
I'll do like I did last time and just vote for Richter because I love the way you write him. As for the hexer, I'll vote for Koenig for reasons that I'm sure are obvious.

Loren1350
Mar 30, 2007
Fran, don't care about the others. We already have one too-cool-for-school, let's have a hapless bumbler!

LupusAter
Sep 5, 2011

Koenig. Maybe vampire, definitely hipster! What's not to love about that? Also, bring Serasmus and Musashi.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.
Since Jill and whichever Hexer wins get in automatically, make my party vote for Richter, Alex and Hector.

Arctic Cress
Oct 23, 2010

Go with Fran, and bring along Richter, Serasmus, and Hector.

AccidentalHipster
Jul 5, 2013

Whadda ya MEAN ya never heard of Dan Brereton?
Keeping my vote for my little Sallya (kinda obligated to after all) and throwing my votes in for Richter, Serasmus, and Hector.

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

Go with Hector, Jill, Mushashi, Serasmus, and whichever Hexer you get. You already have my vote for which Hexer I want.

Ern Malley
Nov 11, 2005

:d: :d: :d:
I want the Hexer to be Koenig, and the party members to be Hector, Dietrich and Alex.

SilverFire
Dec 31, 2012
Voting for Fran, Alex, Hector, and Serasmus.

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012
I was kinda expecting the silly character to win. :sigh:

Well, anyway, whichever of the clowns win with Hector, Alvis and the old crank.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

100percentjesusfree posted:

I think you already have a character! Isn't Dietrich yours? (or is my second post telling horrible, horrible lies?)

Sorry, just wanted to sneak in a second one. :v:

Anyway, I vote Jill, Dietrich, Fran, Alex and Richter.

100percentjesusfree
Mar 18, 2009

FOE! FOE!
100% FOE!
Alright, so! Coursework is done, for better or for worse, so now I have no excuse. Time to tot up the votes!

Unless I'm mis-counting, which is quite possible, Fran has 10 votes, while Koenig has 6 - turns out sugar > hipsters in the eyes of the LP forums.

While I'm at it...

Hector: 10
Serasmus: 7
Richter: 6
Alex: 4
Dietrich: 3
Keyser: 2
Musashi: 1 4
Alvis: 1

Apparently I am bad at reading. I knew CTRL+F could let me down.

:sigh: Somehow, I knew that having Musashi slaughter his way through the next stratum was not going to be an option.

Lazy Programming posted:

Keyser, Farmbot1, Farmbot4 also I vote the hexer is best buds with Keyser and they go on adventures and...

I also somehow knew that someone would vote for the farmbots, and that it would probably be you. :v:

Anyway, looks like our party is going to be Jill, Hector, Serasmus, Richter and Fran. This should be interesting!

I should probably mention now that I'll be picking the party for the postgame, not that we're quite there yet, because if I recall correctly, it's less a test of "Do you have a good party?" and more a test of "Do you have a party designed to handle all the bullshit down here?"

Also, for anyone interested, my coursework consisted of programming some shaders to make



look more like



Fun times!

100percentjesusfree fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 18, 2013

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?


Um, if you consider "the old crank" to be Musashi, he has 4 votes. Not that it matters.

100percentjesusfree
Mar 18, 2009

FOE! FOE!
100% FOE!

BlazeEmblem posted:

Um, if you consider "the old crank" to be Musashi, he has 4 votes. Not that it matters.

Gah, good catch. I was half asleep and using Ctrl+F to help me count. That'll show me :v:

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~
So I'm checking out the demo for the remake of this game (or rather it's attached new "Story mode" since that's all the Demo offers) and the proper introduction to the Alchemist party member makes him seem like he'd get along with Alvis swimmingly.

quote:

What, you want to know about my formulas?

I just go "Zoom!" and it goes "Whoosh!" and then "Bam!" and the enemies are like "Noooooo!" and I'm all "Hahaha!"

:v:

GeneralYeti
Jul 22, 2012

Look at this smug broken asshole.

Cernunnos posted:

So I'm checking out the demo for the remake of this game (or rather it's attached new "Story mode" since that's all the Demo offers) and the proper introduction to the Alchemist party member makes him seem like he'd get along with Alvis swimmingly.


:v:

You know, ever since we fought Cernunos I do a double take every time I see you post.

If I wish really hard will this thread come back? :ohdear:

100percentjesusfree
Mar 18, 2009

FOE! FOE!
100% FOE!

GeneralYeti posted:

You know, ever since we fought Cernunos I do a double take every time I see you post.

If I wish really hard will this thread come back? :ohdear:

Nope, it's dead forever, RIP.

Nah, in all seriousness, it's more that my final year at university is starting up, so I'm a bit on the busy side again. That, combined with the current floor being a huge chore, and grinding up another low level character... basically, I keep finding excuses not to play videogames for the internet.

This definitely isn't dead, I fully intend to finish and such, it just might take a while. :v:

Sorry about all this.

E. Also, the Alchemist sounds hilarious - I wasn't sure about the remake at first, but it sounds pretty fun.

GeneralYeti
Jul 22, 2012

Look at this smug broken asshole.
Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl came out today in retail and on eShop :toot:

Apparently, it has a story mode, as well as a remake of Etrian Odyssey 1 with updated mechanics and difficulty choices.

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012

GeneralYeti posted:

Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl came out today in retail and on eShop :toot:

Apparently, it has a story mode, as well as a remake of Etrian Odyssey 1 with updated mechanics and difficulty choices.

It's also really fun and all the maps aside from B1F have been redrawn.

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SilverFire
Dec 31, 2012
Does the fifth stratum look similar to Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl? I didn't quite make it yet in the original.

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