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I'm sure they probably thought of that and worked it into the contract. They all probably get a share equal to the longest of any of the 3 splices. Sounds like the kind of thing fiends would do.
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DoctorTristan posted:Each gets V's soul for a period equal to the duration of their respective splice. So the chaotic evil guy won't get him for very long, since the splice to the necromancer ended quite quickly. The other two get him for somewhere around 10-20 minutes (probably). And Sabine will get V's soul for a few minutes because of her finder's fee.
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Jun 27, 2009 18:45
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HKR posted:Eventually they'll come in contact with a working gate/snarl, and twenty minutes is plenty for them to do what they want with it. Unless they want to perform the same ritual that Xykon does, which would take weeks.
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Jun 27, 2009 19:17
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DoctorTristan posted:Each gets V's soul for a period equal to the duration of their respective splice. So the chaotic evil guy won't get him for very long, since the splice to the necromancer ended quite quickly. The other two get him for somewhere around 10-20 minutes (probably). Just for the record, I'm pretty sure that the dark-skinned necromancer chick was the neutral evil one, wheras the world-conquering conjurer was lawful evil and the goofy sorcerer (who was ironically dressed like a stereotypical 'wizard') was chaotic evil.
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Vicissitude posted:I'm sure they probably thought of that and worked it into the contract. They all probably get a share equal to the longest of any of the 3 splices. Sounds like the kind of thing fiends would do. They don't. Bottom of the first page here - they only get his soul for as long as their particular splice lasted. Liberal_L33t posted:Just for the record, I'm pretty sure that the dark-skinned necromancer chick was the neutral evil one, wheras the world-conquering conjurer was lawful evil and the goofy sorcerer (who was ironically dressed like a stereotypical 'wizard') was chaotic evil. Quite possibly. I assumed the necromancer was CE because she was colour-coded to match the purple fiend, and I assumed he was the CE one based largely on the order of the lineup at their first appearance. I always felt that the distinction between NE and CE was pretty sketchy anyway.
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IMJack posted:And Sabine will get V's soul for a few minutes because of her finder's fee.
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Jun 28, 2009 03:30
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But in that case, Sabine would be just as likely to use V to kill Haley as she is to follow orders.
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They didn't mention the possibility of leasing out control of his soul to a third party, so I very much doubt that they can without the agreement being void and them suffering some pretty hefty backlash.
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V. Illych L. posted:They didn't mention the possibility of leasing out control of his soul to a third party, so I very much doubt that they can without the agreement being void and them suffering some pretty hefty backlash. My understanding of the deal was that he was agreeing to basically do exactly what the souls spliced to him were doing: at some point in the indeterminate future, they would take his soul for about twenty minutes, and let someone else use it as they will.
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Jun 28, 2009 18:26
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Oh, waffleimages. I miss you already. Seven weeks? Has it been 45 weeks since the original death sentence?
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Haley wouldn't sabotage the mission to win 10 gold. She'll simply lose the bet and then never pay her debt, just like every other time since this comic started. [edit] altho I was hoping for a quick jaunt into the underworld to see the three fiends for comic #666 
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Mystic Mongol posted:Seven weeks? Has it been 45 weeks since the original death sentence? It was before the end of this year, not within the next year.
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MikeJF posted:It was before the end of this year, not within the next year. In comic year, so I think he's just demonstrating how much time has passed through all these strips.
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I love O'Chul's line. I'm interested in how belkar will finally go as well. Under a mountain of goblins? Or will he be another victim of xylon to demonstrate again how powerful he is. He's beaten 2 of the PC's at this point without much effort
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So how hard will it be for them to beat Xykon? Would they have to surprise him alone? Would they stand a chance in hell against Xykon, Redcloak and the MitD? I mean a epic level sorcerer lich, an almost epic evil cleric and someone with access to wishes?
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It's looking likely that the MitD will switch sides during the final battle.
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Even Mordenkainen's Disjunction isn't a sure bet. I haven't played 3.5 in over a year, but I believe each item gets a Will save equal to the item's save or the owner's save, whichever is higher. Xykon's got to have a good will save. Touch attacks still are probably the best way to go. I'm sure he's probably got a boost there, but the Lich +5 Natural Armor doesn't help him at all. Or, they'll simply find the McGuffin and beat him.
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Jun 29, 2009 20:27
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And O-Chul continues his trend of being inordinately badass and noble at the same time. Even though I know it's unlikely, I hope that O-Chul goes with the group on their quest to destroy Xykon.
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Jun 29, 2009 21:17
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If Xykon goes, my money is on Roy throwing him into the Snarl.
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ConfusedUs posted:And O-Chul continues his trend of being inordinately badass and noble at the same time. Even though I know it's unlikely, I hope that O-Chul goes with the group on their quest to destroy Xykon. Doing so would take away his bad rear end paladin powers, wouldn't it? As for Xykon, he's not all that strong. He almost got destroyed by Soon's ghost after all. V had a pretty good run at him too, despite what Xykon himself might think. His real strength at this point is plot armor, I don't see him kicking off until the end of the story.
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Cliff Racer posted:Doing so would take away his bad rear end paladin powers, wouldn't it? Unless O-Chul is secretly a 10th level Gray Guard, out of Complete Scoundrel, it would. Seeing as, among other things, he'd need to be 15th level at least, I wouldn't bet on it.
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Cliff Racer posted:As for Xykon, he's not all that strong. He almost got destroyed by Soon's ghost after all. Cause, you know, that wasn't the ghost of an Epic level Paladin who sealed the gate in the first place and specifically set it up so he could come back to fight whatever threatened the gate. Nope, just some ghost. Soon's Ghost was both 1) A ghost and immune to most of Xykons usual tricks (Evocations out the wazoo and Energy Drain until they fall over) and 2) A class who specializes in fighting evil and undead. That was the most stacked fight against him that Xykon has encountered since fighting the duid while he was still human and getting shut down by a magical virus Archenteron fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 30, 2009 |
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Roy did manage to hit and damage Xykon before, though there is the problem of his phenomenal epic casting prowess, magic items, 20-odd d12 worth of HP, and his legion of minions dead or otherwise. The only question is if they'll fight it out at both gates or just one.
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LightWarden posted:Roy did manage to hit and damage Xykon before, though there is the problem of his phenomenal epic casting prowess, magic items, 20-odd d12 worth of HP, and his legion of minions dead or otherwise. The only question is if they'll fight it out at both gates or just one. He did even better when he was mad enough. I reckon the Order have a few things going in their favour still. It'll take Xykon a while to find his phylactery and start moving, so they should be able to get to the gate first and set up an ambush. I think that if MiTD stays out of the fight, and they can corner them in a confined space where Xykon and Goth chick can't fly up out of melee range, and if Roy's grandfather's feat can disrupt Xykon's casting well enough, then they may be in with a fair shot.
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DoctorTristan posted:He did even better when he was mad enough. I like that V ended that battle paralyzed as well.
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DoctorTristan posted:He did even better when he was mad enough. so perfect
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Haha, Tiamat. Such a lame joke, but it got a laugh out of me all the same.
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I would imagine that is one pissed off dragon-god, all things considered.
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So V's headband it isn't a fixed ring, but a scrunchie? Huh.
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Enderwastaken posted:So V's headband it isn't a fixed ring, but a scrunchie? Huh. I think it's a chain, but I could be wrong. (I too was surprised it was flexible.)
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FredMSloniker posted:I think it's a chain, but I could be wrong. (I too was surprised it was flexible.) Real elvish rope!
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I personally would have been disappointed if there wasn't at least a reference to an extremely pissed of Tiamat.
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Maldraedior posted:I hope they washed that cloak before putting it back on Apparently the Heal spell also cleans and repairs clothing. Who knew?
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Strontosaurus posted:Apparently the Heal spell also cleans and repairs clothing. Who knew? It always has in OOTS. As to the hair thing, maybe it expands and contracts at V's desire, though that's kind of a useful property to waste on a scrunchie.
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it's definately a ring in the one where V got polymorphed into a lizard: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0176.html
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I think I may have missed something . . . why is it, exactly, that Tiamat is pissed off? (Tiamat is a Western God in this pantheon, is she not?)
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Pyre_89 posted:I think I may have missed something . . . why is it, exactly, that Tiamat is pissed off? (Tiamat is a Western God in this pantheon, is she not?) Tiamat is, specifically, the god of evil dragons. Such as black dragons. V wiped out a sizable fraction of Tiamat's flock, and the three fiends are the ones who empowered V to do so.
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ConfusedUs posted:Tiamat is, specifically, the god of evil dragons. Such as black dragons. Ooooooh...that's gonna be a PR disaster. Nice wrap-up, though I'm concerned that V's soulbind secret will get out and be really ugly.
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