|
He a bad president.
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 17:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 04:49 |
|
|
LeoMarr posted:So Hollande is a paper communist and thats why his approval rating in France is 4% There's nothing communist at all in this man
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 18:45
|
|
|
Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Whoa ... whoa, how do you get such a low approval rating? Even raping and groping some kids won't get you that low. What did he do? - Not killing the stupid Notre-Dame des Landes airport project (wasting a lot of money to build next to a nature preserve a useless airport with an obsolete design) - Surrendering to greedy bosses in the "pigeon" thing (state lost a ton of revenue this way) - Surrendering to polluters in the "red cap" thing (wasting a ton of money to buy and build special "ecotax" gantries and then wasting a ton more money to dismantle them and letting truckers keep on polluting) - But absolutely not surrendering to the country's largest social protest movement of the 21st century against the "El Khomri" law that's something even worse for workers than anything the UMP ever tried. Those are the big ones, there are plenty of others. Pinch Me Im Meming posted:The closest thing to freezing time. He won't do poo poo. Oh yes he will. Retirement age pushed to 80, El Khomri II: Austere Harder, and of course, Public Sector Downsizing: poor cities don't need teachers, doctors, cops or firefighters. It is going to be awful and in no way better than a Le Pen presidency, no matter what "lesser evil" people might argue. Reminder that Juppé is corrupt and stupid. Again, he wanted to sell Thales to Daewoo for one franc, that's the loving genius we're going to get. The only way he's not going to sabotage the country even more is if the street keeps protesting his every move 24/7.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 18:53
|
|
|
Cat Mattress posted:The only way he's not going to sabotage the country even more is if the street keeps protesting his every move 24/7. Well of course.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 19:50
|
|
|
Cat Mattress posted:Being ridiculous, boring, and hypocritical. The only reason he got elected in the first place was because he was Not-Sarkozy. My personal grievances against him: Ahahahahahahahahaahaaaa I wish I had archives. He was the thread hero here for a while, just like Tsipras, Chavez and others before him.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:17
|
|
|
I remember lots of hopes and dreams placed on Hollande's shoulders, and the feeling I'm getting is that he's definitely crashing because he fell way short the expectations set by his presidential campaign. My memory of the French presidential election period is generally "I hope Melenchon does well, but what I hear from Hollande's side sounds ok, so it should be good either way". And that's coming from a point where my political opinions were much more inflexible wrt full communism now.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:29
|
|
|
Grouchio posted:What would an Alain Juppe administration look like? like hollande
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:36
|
|
|
Kurtofan posted:like hollande
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:38
|
|
|
Geriatric Pirate posted:Ahahahahahahahahaahaaaa yeah he loving was haha . Goons were all over the new age of European Socialism with the Trinity of Hollande, Tsipras and Miliband (lol) to stand up to be Merkel Austerity (or maybe it was cautious optimism whatever) i voted for him (four times!) but i was under no illusion, i remember being really bemused by the celebrations in paris after his election, I mean I had voted for him more times than i'd like to admit but there were no cause to celebrate now if i could go back in time i'd probably go celebrate because i think it might have been the last time in french politics where anything was cause for celebration
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:46
|
|
|
Toplowtech posted:Same hairdressing if not same Hairdresser. françois costanza
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 20:48
|
|
|
I would honestly not put Hollande on the same category as Tsipras, because one way or another Tsipras and SYRIZA carry a much different political legacy, and I still believe they are making an honest, though ultimately ineffectual, attempt to represent working class interests. Hollande is closer to Papandreou, in that he's the centre-left politician whose ascension to leadership dispelled the notion that "centre-left" means something meaningfully different from "centre-right".
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2016 21:08
|
|
|
The traditional left is dead nearly everywhere in Europe, except perhaps in Wallonia, as we can see now. It's nothing new. It died along with the Fordist industrial model, and it's not coming back. I'm surprised people ever had such expectations for Hollande. Juppé will be more of the same. After everything that's happened in France over the past few years, I'm actually surprised they're not lurching further to the right. In almost every other country there would be a massive populist backlash. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Oct 26, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 07:14
|
|
|
So leftist democratic-social oppositions and parties are not expected to reach the political forefront in Europe again until late next decade?
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 07:34
|
|
|
Goodbye far left. Lets try far right again. We havent learned our lessons yet.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 07:55
|
|
|
LeoMarr posted:Goodbye far left. Lets try far right again. We havent learned our lessons yet. The blood of tyranny must be watered with a thing or something like that.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 08:38
|
|
|
Phlegmish posted:The traditional left is dead nearly everywhere in Europe, except perhaps in Wallonia, as we can see now. It's nothing new. It died along with the Fordist industrial model, and it's not coming back. I'm surprised people ever had such expectations for Hollande. Don't worry, we do have our massive populist backlash. Everyone on the right who is not Juppé is turning more and more fascist by the day. Juppé is still a boring liberal technocrat. Kurtofan posted:now if i could go back in time i'd probably go celebrate because i think it might have been the last time in french politics where anything was cause for celebration The day Sarkozy gets sentenced to four years in prison
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 08:39
|
|
|
Grouchio posted:So leftist democratic-social oppositions and parties are not expected to reach the political forefront in Europe again until late next decade? next decade? hahaha
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 08:46
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:The day Sarkozy gets sentenced to four years in prison
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 09:20
|
|
|
Grouchio posted:So leftist democratic-social oppositions and parties are not expected to reach the political forefront in Europe again until late next decade? Try 30 years, when everyone has voted in far right and/or outright gently caress the poor governments and everything is sucking even more.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 09:28
|
|
I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
|
Hollande is a strong contender for the title of the worst president in French history. Congratulations and I hope you die, you treasonous cretin.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 10:39
|
|
|
Friendly Humour posted:Hollande is a strong contender for the title of the worst president in French history. Congratulations and I hope you die, you treasonous cretin. How fast do we forget Sarkozy.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 10:44
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:Don't worry, we do have our massive populist backlash. Everyone on the right who is not Juppé is turning more and more fascist by the day. Juppé is still a boring liberal technocrat. In my experience liberal technocrats tend to adopt far-right policies in order to placate that electorate when it exists in force, so if that's how you're going to describe Juppé I'm afraid his term will not simply be "more of the same". France's election has somehow managed to surpass the US election in terms of being hosed either way, it's insane.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:06
|
|
|
Portugal's experience with a social democrat coalition government is going great*! *slightly less austerity
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:10
|
|
|
YF-23 posted:France's election has somehow managed to surpass the US election in terms of being hosed either way, it's insane. Eh, lets stay realistic with this. Among many other things, none of the French candidates plan to ignore the results of a democratic election and have threatened the county with violence. (At leat not yet.) People were laughing about the German concept of militant democracy, but nobody is laughing anymore about plucky little Germany.  Trump would be already banned from the election and maybe even in prison for trying to abolish the Democratic order over here.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:29
|
|
|
Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Eh, lets stay realistic with this. Among many other things, none of the French candidates plan to ignore the results of a democratic election and have threatened the county with violence. (At leat not yet.) Clinton would've never made it to the candidacy either.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:38
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:How fast do we forget Sarkozy. He's your next president.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:52
|
|
|
^^ Unlikely, his presence at the second turn would favor Le Pen far too much.Friendly Humour posted:Hollande is a strong contender for the title of the worst president in French history. Congratulations and I hope you die, you treasonous cretin. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Oct 26, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 11:57
|
|
|
Toplowtech posted:^^ Unlikely, his presence at the second turn would favor Le Pen far too much. People were hella weird back then.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:05
|
|
|
Pinch Me Im Meming posted:People were hella weird back then.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:06
|
|
|
KoldPT posted:Portugal's experience with a social democrat coalition government is going great*! As long as we're under the yoke of the euro it's the best we can hope for.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:13
|
|
|
French President Paul Deschanel was once found roaming alongside railroad tracks in the countryside, wearing only his pajamas. He had fallen out of the window of a train heading to Paris. Rumor says that he was growing insane, but later investigations found out that he was merely suffering from depression due to the powerlessness he felt as President, and the medication he took may have caused his sleepwalking episodes.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:15
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:French President Paul Deschanel was once found roaming alongside railroad tracks in the countryside, wearing only his pajamas. He had fallen out of the window of a train heading to Paris. Rumor says that he was growing insane, but later investigations found out that he was merely suffering from depression due to the powerlessness he felt as President, and the medication he took may have caused his sleepwalking episodes. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Oct 26, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:18
|
|
|
I don't know what kind of super-human you are, but I know I'd fall asleep five minutes into a Conseil des Ministres or any state meeting.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:20
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:I don't know what kind of super-human you are, but I know I'd fall asleep five minutes into a Conseil des Ministres or any state meeting. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Oct 26, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:21
|
|
|
Cool a relatively new article making GBS threads on the euro. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/the-failure-of-the-euro Same old same old really, but you know, gently caress the euro.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:42
|
|
|
Is hating the euro something the left and right have in common? Outside Germany at least maybe?
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 12:57
|
|
|
Senor Dog posted:Is hating the euro something the left and right have in common? Outside Germany at least maybe? If you want economic growth in the Eurozone that isn't abysmal you hate the euro. It doesn't have be ideological, the currency plain does not work.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 13:05
|
|
|
MiddleOne posted:If you want economic growth in the Eurozone that isn't abysmal you hate the euro. It doesn't have be ideological, the currency plain does not work. I was just wondering if there was some common ground, and thinking maybe it actually is possible to leave it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 13:11
|
|
|
The only way the Euro would have worked is with Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Luxembourg, Finland and nobody else. The other countries either never had fiscal responsibility of any kind or are simply too poor.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 13:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 04:49 |
|
|
No it wouldn't have worked either because Germany is the one loving it up for Finland. The problem isn't the poors. The problem is Germany. Infact without the poors in the union, the eiro would probably be valued even higher and Finland would be even more anally raped than currently. EDIT: Infact the poors would have been better to form a currency union with for Finland, they'd depress the value of the new currency compared to what it would otherwise be, making exporting stuff for us easier, and the inverse would be true for the poor countries. In this scenario, we would be the Germany analogue, loving up and destroying the other members economies. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Oct 26, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2016 13:20
|
|