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Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Platystemon posted:

That tie isn�t real.

Trains are actually harder to derail than you might think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw

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e: While we�re on the subject of dangerous film stunts, I recall a piece of trivia about an older movie where live gunfire was used, with the gun‐wielding actors instructed to aim wide of the lead actor (or stunt double; I forget which), who was standing at a window.

In addition to the Cagney bit, real arrows were fired at Toshiro Mifune in Throne of Blood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5MtUiYxBiY

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# ? May 27, 2024 13:29

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Pyrex isn't actually made fro pyrex anymore which is probably why.

Pyrex (the glass) is made from borosilicate glass and is loving awesome. Then Cornex sold the brand to someone and they kept the name but started making Pryex (the brand) out of plain old soda-lime glass. Of course they kept charging the same and pocketed the difference.

It's OSHA because so many people have trusted their glassware to be both shatter resistant and resistant to thermal shock and gotten a hell of a surprise, and injured, when their lovely glassware exploded on them.

Fun fact:

You can tell if you have the real stuff or got ripped off by dipping your glassware in vegetable oil. Borosilicate glass has the same refractive index as the oil and will become invisible.

This is mostly true, but misleading in a few places. Pyrex labware and non-US bakeware is still borosilicate glass (unless they changed it recently) but US cookware is tempered soda-lime made by World Kitchen, which is a spinoff of Corning and licenses the "Pyrex" name from Corning. World Kitchen's official statement is that tempered soda-lime is not only cheaper, but more impact resistant than borosilicate glass and most people break cookware by dropping it, not from the relatively mild thermal shock of taking a casserole out of the oven and putting it onto a cooling rack (a wet countertop is probably not a good idea though). I don't know if this is true (the impact resistance thing, I'm sure most dishes are broken from being dropped), but in anecdotal evidence I have a ~30 year old borosilicate Pyrex measuring cup that is chipped in about three places and my newer cookware has survived some pretty nasty hits.

Also, if you're shopping for second-hand Pyrex the newer stuff has a lower-case "pyrex" logo and the older stuff has an all-caps "PYREX" logo. I doubt the logo change was the exact same day as the borosilicate switch-over though so bring vegetable oil if its important to you.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 07:59

C.M. Kruger: Oct 28, 2013

The Pyrex change also had the unintended effect of causing problems for the crack cocaine industry.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/gray-matter-cant-take-heat

# ? Dec 15, 2015 08:06

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

C.M. Kruger posted:

The Pyrex change also had the unintended effect of causing problems for the crack cocaine industry.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/gray-matter-cant-take-heat

Can you give me the title so I can google it? Popular Science has some lovely-rear end redirect going on that sends me to popsci.com.au and then 404s the article.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 08:36

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

GotLag posted:

Can you give me the title so I can google it? Popular Science has some lovely-rear end redirect going on that sends me to popsci.com.au and then 404s the article.

here's the article:

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Most people probably don't think of Corning as a crime fighting company, but when it sold its Pyrex brand to World Kitchen in 1998, the company accidentally made the illegal manufacture of crack cocaine more difficult�a fascinating example of unintended consequences.
Ordinary glass shatters if it's heated too quickly: Pour boiling water into a common flintglass tumbler, and it's likely to fall apart seconds later. The glass on the inside expands when it gets hot, putting stress on the cold glass on the outside. When the stress gets too great, it cracks.
Pyrex, which originally was always borosilicate glass, solved this problem by adding boron to the silica (quartz), the main ingredient in all glass. Boron changes the atomic structure of glass so it stays roughly the same size regardless of its temperature. Little thermal expansion means little stress. Thus borosilicate glass withstands heat not because it's stronger, but because it doesn't need to be stronger.
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When World Kitchen took over the Pyrex brand, it started making more products out of prestressed soda-lime glass instead of borosilicate. With pre-stressed, or tempered, glass, the surface is under compression from forces inside the glass. It is stronger than borosilicate glass, but when it's heated, it still expands as much as ordinary glass does. It doesn't shatter immediately, because the expansion first acts only to release some of the built-in stress. But only up to a point.
One unfortunate use of Pyrex is cooking crack cocaine, which involves a container of water undergoing a rapid temperature change when the drug is converted from powder form. That process creates more stress than soda-lime glass can withstand, so an entire underground industry was forced to switch from measuring cups purchased at Walmart to test tubes and beakers stolen from labs. Which just goes to show, if you think you know all the consequences of your decisions today, you're probably wrong.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 08:37

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

Thanks

Edit: in my quest to find out why this redirect takes place, I found this from someone who actually heard back from Australian Popular Science, who are by all accounts reluctant to respond to queries:

quote:

I did get a reply. Quote: "However unfortunately there is no way around this issue. As we are the publishers of the Australian edition of Popular Science Magazine and http://www.popsci.com.au in our license agreement we are entitled to block the US website from being made accessible to Australian web users. This is our legal and business right as the licensees of the US version that we are buying the license and ownership of the Australian market which is why in order to capture the full scope of the market a redirect has been placed on the US website to the Australian one." So I've stopped visiting the site and buying occasional copies of the magazine.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 08:57

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Yeah, a bunch of sites with a crappier Australian version try to do this.

There is usually a workaround though. VPNs are good, too.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Dec 15, 2015

# ? Dec 15, 2015 09:30

Polsy: Mar 23, 2007

GotLag posted:

Thanks

Edit: in my quest to find out why this redirect takes place, I found this from someone who actually heard back from Australian Popular Science, who are by all accounts reluctant to respond to queries:

Oh, I know someone who did this too, a few years back. Good form letter, they must get that pretty regularly.

http://f.cl.ly/items/0E1f2V3Z2M3A3E471f1Q/Screen%20Shot%202011-09-30%20at%2000.32.35%20.png

# ? Dec 15, 2015 11:39

BOOTY-ADE: Aug 30, 2006; BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Mr.Bob posted:

It is pretty much what it sounds like, I somehow ended up with a birdhouse painted by some random kid and i had a food processor and i put the two together with some electrical bits and a motion detector. It would turn on with a five second delay if i stuck anything in the bird house hole.

Edit for I like birds. And would not hurt one.

Please tell me it has ACME painted on the side. That's the most Wile E. Coyote idea I've ever heard, holy poo poo :lol:

# ? Dec 15, 2015 17:25

Knyteguy: Jul 6, 2005; YES to love
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 17:32

Overwined: Sep 22, 2008; Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
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Platystemon posted:

That tie isn�t real.

e: While we�re on the subject of dangerous film stunts, I recall a piece of trivia about an older movie where live gunfire was used, with the gun‐wielding actors instructed to aim wide of the lead actor (or stunt double; I forget which), who was standing at a window.

Said actor/stuntman had some sense of self‐preservation, so on the first take, he disobeyed the script and hit the deck�which was fortunate, for bullet holes in the back wall suggested he�d be very dead if he�s stayed standing.

Does anyone know which film this is from? It may in fact be an urban legend, but considering Noah�s Ark (1928) drowned three extras with a six‐hundred‐thousand‐gallon deluge, I can believe it.

There's also Roar that injured 70 actors and crew because someone thought that the best way to make a movie about lions and other large beasts was to just throw them on a set with the actors. What could possibly go wrong? I know what you're thinking, the lions weren't Union.

Let's also not forget Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo, a movie about a rubber baron who decides to drag a steamship over a mountain from one arm of the Amazon to the other. Herzog decided the best way to do this was to, well, actually do exactly that. He used scores of native Amazonians for this, for which he received a lot of criticism. The rumors were that about a dozen died, but because they were actually on some far-flung arm of the Amazon, no one can really confirm or deny it.

Watch this likely terrible idea here and know this is 100% real with no special effects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC2QIFwGOQU

Don't get me wrong, though, I love Herzog and this fits in with his personality 100%. I just hope no one had to die for it.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 17:53

frodnonnag: Aug 13, 2007

Knyteguy posted:

You... rear end in a top hat.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 18:48

Applesnots: Oct 22, 2010; MERRY YOBMAS

Ozz81 posted:

Please tell me it has ACME painted on the side. That's the most Wile E. Coyote idea I've ever heard, holy poo poo

Ha! thats a good idea, if I have time I will get a picture of the goofy thing later today.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 20:31

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

Knyteguy posted:

What is that?

# ? Dec 15, 2015 20:52

GnarlyCharlie4u: Sep 23, 2007; I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

GotLag posted:

What is that?

conduit.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 20:54

Lincoln: May 12, 2007; Ladies.

Knyteguy posted:

What are we looking at here?

# ? Dec 15, 2015 21:05

VectorSigma: Jan 20, 2004; Transform
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Lincoln posted:

What are we looking at here?

compelled obstructive redundancy

# ? Dec 15, 2015 21:14

suuma: Apr 2, 2009

Lincoln posted:

What are we looking at here?

Five conduits (the pipes) used to run cabling or whatever. Rather than use the one closest to the wall (where the red line is going) they put it in the farthest one and blocked the other four.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 21:38

Uthor: Jul 9, 2006; Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

What if they used the closest conduit on the other side of the wall?

# ? Dec 15, 2015 21:53

boneration: Jan 9, 2005; now that's performance

GotLag posted:

What is that?

An unsupervised apprentice.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 21:56

Retarted Pimple: Jun 2, 2002

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Lincoln posted:

What are we looking at here?

An awesome irl trolling.

# ? Dec 15, 2015 22:38

5er: Jun 1, 2000

Knyteguy posted:

I'm not even in that line of work and just looking at that instantly pissed me off.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 00:07

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# ? Dec 16, 2015 01:17

Three-Phase: Aug 5, 2006; by zen death robot

I believe that red conduit is for life-safety stuff, like fire alarm/life safety circuits. Still a stupid move to set it up like that. Is that EMT (electro-metallic tubing)? That's the cheapest and least ridged stuff you can get.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 02:00

DocCynical: Jan 9, 2003; That is not possible just now

Three-Phase posted:

I believe that red conduit is for life-safety stuff, like fire alarm/life safety circuits. Still a stupid move to set it up like that. Is that EMT (electro-metallic tubing)? That's the cheapest and least ridged stuff you can get.

That is what I would say too. Fire alarm. The best part is the 1" (looks like) EMT run could have been run in the hole just to the right and then save the other 2" or 3" stuff for the data that would likely be pulled through it. It isn't like that wall is fire stopped yet anyway.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 02:07

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Say Nothing posted:

Dong

# ? Dec 16, 2015 06:31

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Platystemon posted:

On the topic of crazy OSHA movie magic

http://www.indiewire.com/article/holy-f-cking-sh-t-discovery-of-roar-the-most-dangerous-movie-ever-made-20150707

e: darn, beat, but yeah throwing untrained actors with untrained big cats to film a family movie was probably not the best idea

surebet fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Dec 16, 2015

# ? Dec 16, 2015 08:11

Fishstick: Jul 9, 2005; Does not require preheating

Careful when pouring molten aluminum

http://i.imgur.com/2l8QSrp.webm

# ? Dec 16, 2015 20:13

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

Fishstick posted:

Careful when pouring molten aluminum

http://i.imgur.com/2l8QSrp.webm

I thought I was about to watch someone get T-1000'd, goddamn.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 20:15

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Fishstick posted:

Careful when pouring molten aluminum

http://i.imgur.com/2l8QSrp.webm

This why you always pre-heat the mold to get absolutely any moisture out.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 20:28

MrYenko: Jun 18, 2012; #2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Baronjutter posted:

This why you always pre-heat the mold to get absolutely any moisture out.

And also why you probably shouldn't blow on the liquid-metal-initiated fire.

# ? Dec 16, 2015 20:50

Wall Balls: Jun 3, 2007; Spanish Castle Magic

if we're talking dangerous movies there's also the conqueror, filmed in utah downwind the nuke testing grounds. 91 of the 220 crew later developed cancer, including john wayne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_%28film%29#Cancer_controversy

# ? Dec 16, 2015 23:43

H2SO4: Sep 11, 2001; put your money in a log cabin; Buglord

Fishstick posted:

Careful when pouring molten aluminum

http://i.imgur.com/2l8QSrp.webm

The video is way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A796N_YZTm8

# ? Dec 16, 2015 23:53

Nude: Nov 16, 2014; I have no idea what I'm doing.

A couple of things I found.

Is it possible to upload multiple images to SA or can you only do one at a time?

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Dec 17, 2015 00:32

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H2SO4 posted:

The video is way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A796N_YZTm8

GJ covering your rear end guy without face shield who almost loses face

# ? Dec 17, 2015 00:35

Dr. Despair: Nov 4, 2009; 39 perfect posts with each roll.

Wall Balls posted:

if we're talking dangerous movies there's also the conqueror, filmed in utah downwind the nuke testing grounds. 91 of the 220 crew later developed cancer, including john wayne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_%28film%29#Cancer_controversy

If I remember right the only actor who didn't wind up dying of cancer is the one who shot himself when he found out he had cancer.

:smith:

# ? Dec 17, 2015 00:39

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Mr. Despair posted:

If I remember right the only actor who didn't wind up dying of cancer is the one who shot himself when he found out he had cancer.

You don't remember right. Even with just the principal cast linked to in that Wiki article, Thomas Gomez died in a car wreck, WIlliam Conrad died of congestive heart failure, Ted de Corsia died of a heart attack, Leo Gordon died of a heart attack, and I don't know what Peter Mamakos died of but he was 89 at the time so it probably didn't have anything to do with the film. The film (and the town) were probably a real actual cancer cluster due to the aboveground testing, but it wasn't *that* bad.

Phanatic fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 17, 2015

# ? Dec 17, 2015 00:48