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Platystemon posted:That’s still better than giving POTUS unilateral authority to launch a nuclear first strike. Giving anyone with physical access to a bomb the unilateral authority to launch a nuclear first strike?
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Warbadger posted:Giving anyone with physical access to a bomb the unilateral authority to launch a nuclear first strike? Yes. Pull a person off the street and odds are excellent that they have better mental stability than POTUS. More importantly, they have only one bomb at hand and no delivery mechanism. They can’t pick up a telephone and end human civilisation.
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Some large fraction of people with access to nuked are sitting in big 'ol tubes that contain dozens of delivery mechanisms.
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Boomers are indeed pretty bad. At least the subs are theoretically subject to the two‐man rule.
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Not in the united "well we just shan't give lunatics charge of a submarine, do we then?" kingdom
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shame on an IGA posted:Not in the united "well we just shan't give lunatics charge of a submarine, do we then?" kingdom Officers of the Royal Navy are gentlemen and a gentleman would never launch an unprovoked nuclear first strike.
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Lobster God posted:Officers of the Royal Navy are gentlemen and a gentleman would never launch an unprovoked nuclear first strike. I know a Royal Navy officer, and if I ever thought he'd have access to the the bomb codes I'd be very angry, just on principle. I don't want that man having the key to 100 megatons. No, not key, bike lock. A bike lock I've personally picked. Oh jesus gently caress. Hexyflexy fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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IPCRESS posted:De-fanged it for this airshow, I see. Don't want to have another accident with the spectators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0GI5DdOfs
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C.M. Kruger posted:Don't want to have another accident with the spectators. I'm not sure if "seeker guides missile into berm next to civilians watching your flyover" is going to get you a promotion or fired.
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Oh drat I'd never seen the HUD angle.
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Godholio posted:Oh drat I'd never seen the HUD angle. I'm still waiting on the HUD footage from that MiG-31 friendly fire shootdown to eventually leak out. ^ Also notable that while president meltybrains needs to authorize a nuclear strike he isn't actually able to unilaterally launch one. Dude at a launch platform with a live warhead on top of his missile can. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Do you think one of those ghetto cruise missiles we were talking about could be used to burn down the Gavle goat? Asking for a friend
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Mortabis posted:Do you think one of those ghetto cruise missiles we were talking about could be used to burn down the Gavle goat? Asking for a friend Sweden is not Saudi Arabia; I think whoever launched the missiles would be Gripen about them getting intercepted later.
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Kesper North posted:Sweden is not Saudi Arabia; I think whoever launched the missiles would be Gripen about them getting intercepted later. Yeah, that would be grabbing the Drakken by it's tail.
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madeintaipei posted:Yeah, that would be grabbing the Drakken by it's tail. Mission planners be Saabing
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Mortabis posted:Do you think one of those ghetto cruise missiles we were talking about could be used to burn down the Gavle goat? Asking for a friend Just put some road flares on a quad copter lol.
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I'm curious for this thread's take on Swedish neutrality and whether it would hold up or even apply if Russia tried to pull the Donbas routine in Norway or Finland.
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Kesper North posted:I'm curious for this thread's take on Swedish neutrality and whether it would hold up or even apply if Russia tried to pull the Donbas routine in Norway or Finland. I've got a bunch of really close Finnish friends, it wouldn't end well for Putin, if Putin decided to pull a thing on them, they're very slightly hardcore. They can't pull that off, the amount of ordinance we'd drop on their ships, planes, troops would be insane. Russia isn't invading Finland.
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Kesper North posted:I'm curious for this thread's take on Swedish neutrality and whether it would hold up or even apply if Russia tried to pull the Donbas routine in Norway or Finland. Sweden and Finland are both in the EU. Article 42.7 states that “If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with article 51 of the United Nations charter”.
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Mortabis posted:Do you think one of those ghetto cruise missiles we were talking about could be used to burn down the Gavle goat? Asking for a friend Well, if it hasn’t been tried yet, it will. It is kinda of a national sport in Gävle.
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Cat Mattress posted:Sweden and Finland are both in the EU. Article 42.7 states that “If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with article 51 of the United Nations charter”. The Luftwaffe could help out every third Tuesday between the hours of 11:30am and 4:15pm. . . although I'm unsure how effective free-fall broomsticks are against armour.
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Cardiac posted:Well, if it hasn’t been tried yet, it will. It is kinda of a national sport in Gävle.
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aphid_licker posted:Def did a little chuckle at that "all the means in their power" NATO article 5 is similarly vague: "such action as it deems necessary".
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aphid_licker posted:Def did a little chuckle at that "all the means in their power" So a platoon of dudes with those melted H&K rifles and no ammo with air support from the EU's Eurofighter?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So a platoon of dudes with those melted H&K rifles and no ammo with air support from the EU's Eurofighter? We literally sent 100% of everything we had, full commitment. Absolutely beautiful show of solidarity.
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It's going to go better this time. Last month Trump talked the SDF into removing their border defenses. It was in exchange for security guarantees. 
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RandomPauI posted:It's going to go better this time. Last month Trump talked the SDF into removing their border defenses. It was in exchange for security guarantees.
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Alaan posted:Sounds like Turkey could invade Syria at any moment. I'm sure that is going to go GREAT. What, really? They are going to claim all of Kurdistan?
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Nebakenezzer posted:What, really? https://mobile.twitter.com/MSNBC/st...ingawful.com%2F Turkey considers the Kurdish organizations running the area terrorists so yeah.
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Kurds getting kicked around again, way to show how reliable US is as an ally when you are no longer of value to them.
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Yay, genocide.  We fund the Mujahideen, then cut off support, they eventually pull off 9/11. We help the anti-Saddam forces (briefly) during Desert Storm, then cut off support, they eventually roll into AQ, ISIS, and any other organization that wants American blood on their breakfast cereal. We help the Kurds, encourage them to put themselves between us and ISIS bullets since PFC. Joe Average doesn't want to get his head cut off in an ISIS Greatest Decapitations video, pat them on the head and string them along over granting them a state of their own, then cut off support, letting them be slaughtered by a new autocrat who's itching to be the new Qaddafi. GEE, I WONDER WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN *THIS* TIME??? 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:GEE, I WONDER WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN *THIS* TIME??? Really I wouldn't rule out "Turkey gets its teeth kicked in".
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Captain von Trapp posted:Really I wouldn't rule out "Turkey gets its teeth kicked in". And I wouldn't rule out "Turkey asks its new 'friend' to come in and help them kill Kurds." -_- Russia might not be good at a lot, but their mercenaries and high-level indiscriminate bombing certainly gets the job done if the job is "making a lot of people not be alive anymore."
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Captain von Trapp posted:Really I wouldn't rule out "Turkey gets its teeth kicked in". But we've also probably created yet another anti-US force in the middle east.
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Captain von Trapp posted:Really I wouldn't rule out "Turkey gets its teeth kicked in". I would. The Kurds, and the SDF, have achieved a lot in the last few years of the Syrian civil war. A lot of what they accomplished was with the support of embedded international SF, as well as (critically) a lot of US air support. As soon as Turkey made noise about taking Afrin at the start of Operation Olive Branch, and the US withdrew support for that area... The Kurds caved. They were steamrolled. They're brilliant fighters but the writing was on the wall as soon as Trump et. al decided to remove support for the region a few days ago - Turkey will enjoy a permissive airspace, and the Kurds will be facing what Daesh faced when the Kurds enjoyed said permissive airspace.
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