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Madmarker posted:First model I've painted since the Bush administration. Can't say its perfect by any stretch but I do like the color scheme. Looks great! I'd suggest giving the gold a sepia or brown wash (not nuln oil), then picking out the raised areas again with gold. Often I'll give gold areas a brown basecoat to give it a richer colour
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Kitchner posted:I always think the 40K lore was always best when anything about the Horus Heresy and before is really vague and unproven with many conflicting theories. I really feel the Horus Heresy novels have taken away from that. Yes, they breathed a legend to life, but the point of legendary things, is they are supposed to be legendary, as in matters of legend rather than fact. I agree and its maddening when people ask lore questions sometimes because people have been conditioned to see fictional lore as like the star wars EU or Marvel movies: every minor thing has an explanation in a wiki page. The 40k universe was not written this way and trying to look at it that way is a clusterfuck because the multiple contradictions are a feature not a bug.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I agree and its maddening when people ask lore questions sometimes because people have been conditioned to see fictional lore as like the star wars EU or Marvel movies: every minor thing has an explanation in a wiki page. The 40k universe was not written this way and trying to look at it that way is a clusterfuck because the multiple contradictions are a feature not a bug. I always try to ask people what do we know about civilisations 8,000 years ago? Basically loving nothing. It's like a few really old pots, some vague evidence of farming being developed, and that's about it. Now obviously in the year 8000BC they didn't have electronic storage or whatever so OK maybe if we had given human back then a dictaphone that can survive 8,000 years and taught him to speak English maybe we would have some of a better idea but the scale of time is immense. The Egyptians built their first pyramids about 4,500 years ago and we think we have a pretty good idea how they lived, but that's also partly because we live in a (mostly) rational society that values learning the truth of how things were.
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Kitchner posted:I always try to ask people what do we know about civilisations 8,000 years ago? Basically loving nothing. It's like a few really old pots, some vague evidence of farming being developed, and that's about it. The thing that kind of blew my mind when I found out is that from Cleopatra’s perspective the pyramids were as ancient to her as she is to us.
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Anime_Otaku posted:The thing that kind of blew my mind when I found out is that from Cleopatra’s perspective the pyramids were as ancient to her as she is to us. We are farther away from The Wedding Singer than the Wedding Singer was from its setting. We are about as far away from the T Rex as the T Rex was from Stegosaurus. dexefiend fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Kitchner posted:I always try to ask people what do we know about civilisations 8,000 years ago? Basically loving nothing. It's like a few really old pots, some vague evidence of farming being developed, and that's about it. And characters in 40k are pretty much the same with the exception of chaos characters and very few imperium characters. Their lack of knowledge is literally the setup for why everything is so hosed up.
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I said come in! posted:For admech, which electro-priest config do you want? Corpuscarii or Fulgurite? Usually Fulgurites, though if you're playing Mars you can mess around with Wrath combo Corpuscarii for the hell of it (its not bad but only marginally better/different from just dropping 10 infiltrators in front of the target on turn 2 since you still usually need a transport to get them lightning jazz-hands close enough to connect). Fulgurites fill a better niche lacking in more Admech armies than Corpuscarii do.
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ThoraxTheImpaler posted:And characters in 40k are pretty much the same with the exception of chaos characters and very few imperium characters. Their lack of knowledge is literally the setup for why everything is so hosed up. I always liked the idea of Bjorn the Fell-Handed, where you have some ancient dude in stasis and wake him up every 100 years to quiz him on his youth, just kind of hoping his memory is ok and you aren't getting dementia-riddled ramblings about his drinking buddies. My daughter asked what I did for my 13th birthday and I couldn't remember a thing about it.
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goose willis posted:Have any of you ever fought a Warlord Battle Titan, or even seen one used in a 40k game? Played against one in an exhibition game Xmas before last. Was 10 of us, 2k each, vs. the Warlord (“Mecha-Santa”) and 14k of Dark Angels. We had 5 turns to kill the titan; that was our only goal. We lost
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Ashcans posted:. I'm going to give you a pass because you're not a genetically enhanced superhuman.
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I wanna make an ork freeboota along the lines of Kaptn Bluddflagg from Dawn of War 2, which model (GW or alternative company) do you guys think would be a good starting off point? He'll be in a D&D pirate campaign, so I'm tending more towards big choppas and flintlock shootas rather than big combi flamers. I love converting models but I'm not great at sculpting yet so facial mods may be out of my wheelhouse
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Diabeesting posted:I wanna make an ork freeboota along the lines of Kaptn Bluddflagg from Dawn of War 2, which model (GW or alternative company) do you guys think would be a good starting off point? He'll be in a D&D pirate campaign, so I'm tending more towards big choppas and flintlock shootas rather than big combi flamers. Oh man, I can link you like literally 20 different ork pirate models after work if you want. I've been building a highly kitbashed ork kill team. There's a ton of fantastic options. Spellcrow has my favorite ork pirate heads if you just want that. Puppetswar and others have some full models that look amazing too. I'll post a list when I get home.
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Diabeesting posted:I wanna make an ork freeboota along the lines of Kaptn Bluddflagg from Dawn of War 2, which model (GW or alternative company) do you guys think would be a good starting off point? He'll be in a D&D pirate campaign, so I'm tending more towards big choppas and flintlock shootas rather than big combi flamers. https://artelw.com/Kaptin-Bluddklaw-p138114389
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Looks great! I'd suggest giving the gold a sepia or brown wash (not nuln oil), then picking out the raised areas again with gold. Often I'll give gold areas a brown basecoat to give it a richer colour Yeah, this is the move. I used to have a brown citadel ink I used for washes. This time around I'm doing an overall wash of seraphim sepia then hitting recesses with agrax earthshade, but you don't gotta be that fussy. Earthsade is a bit darker and seraphim is a light brown tone. I'd pick one and run with it. Wash then dry brush the gold back on for a highlight. For highlights on the armor white or silver or gray will all do. White will be a sharper contrast and look more striking across the table. Silver or gray will be a bit more subtle. I like the white but there's no wrong answer.
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh man, I can link you like literally 20 different ork pirate models after work if you want. I've been building a highly kitbashed ork kill team. FEED ME. and Mr Teatime, that went Right into my to buy list. That model is sick.
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh man, I can link you like literally 20 different ork pirate models after work if you want. I've been building a highly kitbashed ork kill team. I don't remember where but I remember seeing a fantastic conversion that took Kaptin Badrukk's head and jammed it into a redemptor dreadnought where the sarcophagus would go.
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Mr.Booger posted:Week 3, slightly extended Keep going, that's pretty awesome looking. Clean lining.
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Does anyone have much experience with Mordant Earth? It's just not going very crackley for me.
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Clawtopsy posted:Does anyone have much experience with Mordant Earth? It's just not going very crackley for me. are you prepainting the base for a contrast under the cracks or just whacking it straight on? either way a thin layer of pva glue should help with the cracking. Or try slapping it on a bit thicker.
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Clawtopsy posted:Does anyone have much experience with Mordant Earth? It's just not going very crackley for me. From what I've seen the more you put on the more pronounced the cracks are. What it may be worth doing is basically buying some spare bases if you don't have any knocking about and do some practice runs on them to figure out what effect you want and how much texture paint is required
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Black scorpion also has pirate orcs and other pirate fantasy miniatures https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php?cPath=25
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Is it too late to ask if any goons at the LVO GW preview can ask them if they're ever going to revive Bolt Thrower now that they're into music?  Seems like a funnier question to ask than the usual drivel.
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Cooked Auto posted:Is it too late to ask if any goons at the LVO GW preview can ask them if they're ever going to revive Bolt Thrower now that they're into music? Folks are gonna start struggling with their usual drivel soon. We've already had plastic Sisters & Aspect Warriors in the last year, and I've no doubt we'll see plastic Thunderhawks as an Aeronautica Imperialis kit soon enough.
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http://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361421-codex-adeptus-custodes-20-pa-engine-war-ia-taros/ Someone has been scanning public shipping manifest information again and found:
It's barely been two years since the original codex, so I wonder if they'll do the same as with the CSM one and give people the option to either use their old book plus Psychic Awakening, or the new book. xtothez fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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xtothez posted:
 Nice to know that GW can't help themselves when it comes to custodes in 40k either.
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Glad that I coincidentally managed to sell my custodes codex last weekend before this was announced.
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xtothez posted:Folks are gonna start struggling with their usual drivel soon. We've already had plastic Sisters & Aspect Warriors in the last year, and I've no doubt we'll see plastic Thunderhawks as an Aeronautica Imperialis kit soon enough. Obviously the next one is "Plastic Greatcoat guardsmen when?". Or just "new IG models when?".
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Cooked Auto posted:Obviously the next one is "Plastic Greatcoat guardsmen when?". 
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How old are the current guard models? Feels like it's about 8 years?
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xtothez posted:http://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361421-codex-adeptus-custodes-20-pa-engine-war-ia-taros/ Hard to see what they'll add into a Custodes Codex 2.0 unless it's adding all the FW datasheets, which would be a huge precedent for GW. If it's more or less just a rules update it must be pretty significant if it can't be contained in just a PA book (which doesn't mean they won't get even more rules in a future PA book anyway). Interested to see if it's going to be an overhaul on the scale of SM Codex 2.0 or the  that was the CSM Codex 2.0 in terms of new content. Even if it's just new rules that's perfect for me because I really don't need to be buying more models right now when I still have more to paint...Engine War sounds interesting as well that implies a number of factions. IK? Chaos Knights? Ad Mech? Necrons?
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Were Custodes weak enough that they needed a new codex? They seemed fairly strong with the drawback of low model count.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Were Custodes weak enough that they needed a new codex? They seemed fairly strong with the drawback of low model count. Others need a codex more, honestly, but custodes is suffering a wee bit from one-true-list syndrome and being used for a soup bump mainly. I don't know why gw always seems to save stuff needing updates the most for last, it's bizarre. I don't know any necron players, but if skeletons could weep.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Others need a codex more, honestly, but custodes is suffering a wee bit from one-true-list syndrome and being used for a soup bump mainly. I don't know why gw always seems to save stuff needing updates the most for last, it's bizarre. It also feels like they really suffer from needing Forge World stuff.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Were Custodes weak enough that they needed a new codex? They seemed fairly strong with the drawback of low model count. They're pretty average overall. They need FW to be truly competitive and with the advent of new Marines and the plethora of AP-2 and better multi damage weapons in the meta, little to no ways of helping them get easier charges off and getting into melee compared to other melee heavy factions, they could definitely use a rules update if you're planning to run them as mono faction. Also looking at this (I know, spikey bits, but it does raise some decent points), I'd take this whole Custodes Codex 2.0 thing with a big grain of salt: https://spikeybits.com/2020/01/custodes-2-0-codex-probably-not-heres-why.html
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Were Custodes weak enough that they needed a new codex? They seemed fairly strong with the drawback of low model count. If they are announcing 9th at Adepticon, the amount of future-proofing they'd need to do to make sure Custodes work with 9th would be minimal since they have such a small model range. I was just thinking last night that it's a little weird that right now we'd only have 2 codexes that won't need a reprint for 9th edition (Marines, Sisters).
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