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A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Ras Het posted:

I'm reading Vargas Llosa's war at the end of the world and its sooo much fun im totally addicted, feels good to read a fast-paced soap opera novel every now and then

I'm reading the count of monte cristo and it's also a pageturner.

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

david crosby posted:

Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter is like that too, a real pageturner.

They are very different books though

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

A human heart posted:

I'm reading the count of monte cristo and it's also a pageturner.

I love that book so much. It's just a fun dumb revenge adventure really but it gets it so right

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

It's batman for lit majors

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
I think you mean Batman is the Count of Monte Cristo for children

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
idk Monte-Cristo doesn't really get to the punchline fast enough for the wish-fulfillment revenge set, they probably want Prisoner of Zenda or something.

Burning Rain
Jul 17, 2006

What's happening?!?!
if you guys want another short book from Asia about a woman turning into a tree to escape, check out Shahrnush Parsipur's Women Without Men. a lot more surreal at times than The Vegetarian, but in a cool way. some characters are drawn very realistically while others are completely symbolical and there are separate stories that join together in the end, if you're into that. the author got thrown in prison for the book, so you can probably check that off a book reading challenge somewhere. reccommended!

from goodread reviews:

Kavita rated it
did not like it
Shelves: wtf, around-the-world, author-on-lsd

Don't ask me what it all meant. I can only assume the author was on drugs. Can't even understand why this book got banned in the first place. Maybe they don't want women becoming trees or going up in smoke or whatever.

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011

That sounds like the kind of review that people give The Blind Owl when they don't like it, therefore I am going to read that book.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

sounds pretty interesting. I've also wanted to read more middle-east authors for a while now

Burning Rain
Jul 17, 2006

What's happening?!?!

CestMoi posted:

That sounds like the kind of review that people give The Blind Owl when they don't like it, therefore I am going to read that book.

This one is much more transparent than the blind owl, much clearer, I guess you could say? The surreal bits simply give it more interesting taste instead of getting you pleasantly (?) lost in the opium dream.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Burning Rain posted:

if you guys want another short book from Asia about a woman turning into a tree to escape, check out Shahrnush Parsipur's Women Without Men. a lot more surreal at times than The Vegetarian, but in a cool way. some characters are drawn very realistically while others are completely symbolical and there are separate stories that join together in the end, if you're into that. the author got thrown in prison for the book, so you can probably check that off a book reading challenge somewhere. reccommended!

from goodread reviews:

Kavita rated it
did not like it
Shelves: wtf, around-the-world, author-on-lsd

Don't ask me what it all meant. I can only assume the author was on drugs. Can't even understand why this book got banned in the first place. Maybe they don't want women becoming trees or going up in smoke or whatever.

Goddammit, I was going to post specifically about this but forgot. There goes my one decent post ITT for the year

(actually I think it was someone in here who recommended the book in the first place, it might have even been you)

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
Finished The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea two minutes ago. I think the boys are the vehicle for Mishima's own ideas about death/beauty but they come off as very immature which is interesting. Mishima makes men sound really sexy. It was probably a good show of restraint to end it where he did but I really wanted another sequence as electrifying as the kitten part. The book never topped the sex scene leading into that part imo. Definitely gonna read more Mishima.

I finished Zone on my plane ride and I'm glad I read it but gently caress was it exhausting. It was all good but there's no one part of it that really stood out from the rest. Like the details of which atrocity history, literature reference and Serbian war memory get mentioned on a page change, but the mixture of those things is always the same. The exception is the descriptions of Francis' failing relationships with Stephanie and Maria; especially Stephanie and the Zastava. That's where I got most in touch with his character and how damaged he was.



This Boccioni painting should have been the cover and not that boring vector piece of crap. Somehow Ezra Pound's time in Italy and imprisonment never got brought up in my lit classes so that was informative.

I got pretty far into my GR reread too and I don't know how I misread Franz's part so badly the first time. Must have read it during finals. Now that I'm not struggling so hard to comprehend the style and the big picture the little details blow my mind. Like Katje's early bit about Jews being another currency in the war economy, or one of the Psi Section people saying in the wake of Hitler great projects take over from great leaders, or how incredible the whole champagne drinking game > phantoms hanging in the otherworld sunset > penis he thought was his own sequence was.

OregonDonor
Mar 12, 2010

rest his guts posted:

I've been getting into early 20th pre WWI American lit and am wondering if anyone has suggestions? Just finished
You Know Me Al, a very funny baseball-centric, satirical epistolary by Ring Lardner. The protagonist Jack Keefe is brazen, bellicose and stingy - not to mention childlike and semi-literate - but someone who you feel nonetheless compelled to root for. He's the archetypal arrogant pitcher and distant cousin to Kenny Powers. Hemingway and Kurt Vonnegut were explicit fans and I imagine his style was a seminal influence for Salinger, as well.

Jack London's The Iron Heel (1908) is a badass account of a failed socialist revolution written from the perspective of the widow of the main revolutionary.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

DisDisDis posted:

I finished Zone on my plane ride and I'm glad I read it but gently caress was it exhausting. It was all good but there's no one part of it that really stood out from the rest. Like the details of which atrocity history, literature reference and Serbian war memory get mentioned on a page change, but the mixture of those things is always the same. The exception is the descriptions of Francis' failing relationships with Stephanie and Maria; especially Stephanie and the Zastava. That's where I got most in touch with his character and how damaged he was.



This Boccioni painting should have been the cover and not that boring vector piece of crap. Somehow Ezra Pound's time in Italy and imprisonment never got brought up in my lit classes so that was informative.
It was really good even though it's not actually one sentence

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

A human heart posted:

It was really good even though it's not actually one sentence

Yeah I liked it a lot. It was like, 22 sentences and 2 period safe spaces. It was impressive how little I noticed it actually.

mallamp
Nov 25, 2009

Why are there suddenly so many anime avatars in this thread, I can't read your posts because I'm distracted by this

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
my favourite anime is bobs burgers

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

mallamp posted:

Why are there suddenly so many anime avatars in this thread, I can't read your posts because I'm distracted by this

why they all that one girl with cat ears

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Computer give me least useful descriptor for an anime character ever

End Of Worlds posted:

why they all that one girl with cat ears

thank you computer

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

End Of Worlds posted:

why they all that one girl with cat ears

They're horns, she's an alien oni

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Also, it seems none of you are from South America or Italy

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

I lived in Italy for two years

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I lived in Italy for two weeks.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

I'm going to Italy in just over two weeks

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Italy is shaped like a boot

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

If a random guy in a parking lot or even on the street tells you to pay him to park, pay him. Otherwise your car will get broken in to

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Learn "I don't need help, but thank you" in Italian and say it to anyone who gets near you in a train station when buying a ticket. They try to "help" tourists order a ticket for money, and will gently caress you up if you don't.

Ask everyone you meet what their favorite Umberto Eco/Italo Calvino book is so they will look confused and ask you "Who is that?" before they tell you how much they love Dan Brown.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
An even better tip: look poor

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

blue squares posted:

If a random guy in a parking lot or even on the street tells you to pay him to park, pay him. Otherwise your car will get broken in to

I don't have a car mate

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

A human heart posted:

I don't have a car mate

I don't have a car, mate
I don't, have a car mate
I don't. Have a car? Mate.

mallamp
Nov 25, 2009

I've watched at least 50 Italian football games, they were more entertaining than Calvino
But what is it about Japanese cartoons, why don't you watch Italian cartoons like this masterpiece http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330994/

mallamp fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 21, 2016

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Oh my god I have no attention span and can't finish any loving books. Like My Beautiful Friend. So instead I'm reading Station Eleven which is really good and a twist on what was once my favorite genre

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
This is what happens when you stop reading books to binge watch movies, blue squares.

Have you tried reading Richard Farina yet?

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
i really enjoyed Station Eleven but found it kind of emblematic of the modern MFA novel: hyper-polished, very well-crafted technically, but lacking much real bite and ultimately sort of forgettable. St John Mandel's prose is lovely though.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

blue squares posted:

Oh my god I have no attention span and can't finish any loving books. Like My Beautiful Friend. So instead I'm reading Station Eleven which is really good and a twist on what was once my favorite genre

Station Eleven is awesome, read it earlier this year. Enjoy!

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Apocalyptic fiction is one of my least favorite genres but at least station eleven tried to go in a sort of optimistic direction instead of the traditional survivalist porn.

See: Far North, Dog Stars

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

I loved it as a teenager.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
I disagree with the fundamental assumption of most post apocalyptic fiction and find it to be generally ahistorical

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

M-O-O-N, that spells I disagree with the fundamental assumptions

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Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

blue squares posted:

M-O-O-N, that spells I disagree with the fundamental assumptions

lol this character literally just came up 1 minute ago on a podcast I'm listening to.

Yeah, Mandel's interview about how she didn't think post-society humanity would be never ending rape gangs was a really solid point. It's one of the reasons I really liked the book.

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