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Oct 27, 2016 11:43
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I wonder what the Flemish surrendered to Wallonia to get their Canada Prime-Minister Ken barbie doll visit?
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Oct 27, 2016 12:48
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MeLKoR posted:Take out the intellectuals and add a few industrialists and you got yourself a deal. We shall harvest our fields twice next year! drat, I completely forgot about 'managers' of all stripes. They too of course have to meet Madame. We can argue about the intellectuals but champagne socialist Bernard-Henri Lévy has got to go; silver spoon born prick with an large inherited fortune.
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Oct 27, 2016 12:56
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Riso posted:We can argue about the intellectuals but champagne socialist Bernard-Henri Lévy has got to go; silver spoon born prick with an large inherited fortune. He's currently supposed to be in Syria with the Kurds right now, maybe the Russians can deal with him, even if it means collapsing a children's hospital on his head.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:09
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Riso posted:We can argue about the intellectuals but champagne socialist Bernard-Henri Lévy has got to go; silver spoon born prick with an large inherited fortune.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:15
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Toplowtech posted:Can we not, i am still waiting for Day and Nights 2, the sequel of day and nights (featuring Alain Delon and Lauren Bacal), worst movie of 1997. Your craving for entertainment is unbelievably petit bourgeois.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:22
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Toplowtech posted:Can we not, i am still waiting for Day and Nights 2, the sequel of day and nights (featuring Alain Delon and Lauren Bacal), worst movie of 1997. I don't doubt BHL's ability to crap out terribly awful content, however 1997 is a year that saw Home Alone 3, a Mortal Kombat movie, a Spawn movie, Beverly Hills Ninja...
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Oct 27, 2016 13:46
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Riso posted:Your craving for entertainment is unbelievably petit bourgeois. quote:I don't doubt BHL's ability to crap out terribly awful content, however 1997 is a year that saw Home Alone 3, a Mortal Kombat movie, a Spawn movie, Beverly Hills Ninja... *build by slave **it's on youtube, guys Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 13:57
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Riso posted:We can argue about the intellectuals but champagne socialist Bernard-Henri Lévy has got to go; silver spoon born prick with an large inherited fortune. I talk to him and his partner on the phone almost every weekend at my job and I feel so loving dirty having to call him "monsieur". He introduces himself by saying his full name every time. Who the hell does that? Even the financial bankers I get don't make me this angry, I just imagine them against the wall and it soothes me instantly.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:28
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my grandfather hates bhl, because he said people should boycott corsica because of the mob
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Oct 27, 2016 14:31
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/MMQWalker/status/791542502172061696 You should stop pretending you know anything about Greece.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:58
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YF-23 posted:You should stop pretending you know anything about Greece. Even the TAZ, certainly not a right-wing paper reports that SYRIZA turned the Greek public broadcaster ERT into SYRIZA TV. But they are probably just pawns of the German conspiracy against Greece as well?
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Oct 27, 2016 15:52
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Toplowtech posted:I wonder what the Flemish surrendered to Wallonia to get their Canada Prime-Minister Ken barbie doll visit? We have to do the dishes for a month.
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Oct 27, 2016 15:52
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Phlegmish posted:We have to do the dishes for a month.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:52
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LeoMarr posted:I remeber when Francois hollande was SAs favorite communist. Like all communist scum, destined to the dustbin of history. Hollandr paved the way for fascism, Whether it happen now or in 4 years. France is in for a dark time. Do you actually know what communism is? Hollande was a lovely neo-liberal like the rest of European leaders. Only he was wearing the centre-left uniform. Now the centre-right will take his place and enact exactly the same policies but with the ability to be more openly racist. You're a dickhead. Want to know some other things that idiots think are communist but aren't? 1. North Korea 2. Putin's Russia 3. Venezuela 4. Jeremy Corbyn 5. Norway
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Oct 27, 2016 17:47
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GaussianCopula posted:Even the TAZ, certainly not a right-wing paper reports that SYRIZA turned the Greek public broadcaster ERT into SYRIZA TV. SYRIZA didn't turn ERT into anything. Samaras shut down ERT in 2013 and replaced it with a much smaller, barebones public broadcaster. It was almost unplanned, ERT shut down on the same night as the pronouncement that ERT would shut down. He did that because the troika demanded a reduction in the number of public servants, and that was a fast and easy way to do it. SYRIZA re-opened ERT. If ERT is pro-SYRIZA, it's not because SYRIZA did something radical, it's because those people had their jobs taken away from them by New Democracy, and given back to them by SYRIZA. By the way, prior to the shutdown, ERT had been friendly towards whatever government was in charge. ERT being friendly towards the present government is not a SYRIZA innovation. On the other hand, you have the much larger field of private TV stations, that operate without proper licenses and more or less without oversight (especially since New Democracy has not allowed the constitutionally independent body of radio/tv oversight to reform since the last one's term ran out), all of which, with hardly any exceptions, are friendly towards New Democracy, because New Democracy represents the class interests of their owners, and because these stations are consistently on the verge of bankrupcy and could only get friendly loans under the administrations of New Democracy. If you remember their coverage of the referendum rallies you can see what massive biases there are in private TV, much greater than SYRIZA's ERT. What the government tried to do with regards to private TV stations was somewhat suspicious, but very, very much justified. Currently the private TV landscape in Greece is completely and utterly hosed. From the sounds of the Kalogritsas conundrum, SYRIZA tried to play favourites with one of the four would-have-been channel owners. And guess what, that did not even pan out, so it's not like the forced it or anything. Even if 1/4 of the private TV stations were pro-SYRIZA in the planned restructuring that would be incredibly more neutral and unbiased than what exists now, which is 100% of private TV stations acting as, more or less, New Democracy and PASOK's party channels.
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Oct 27, 2016 17:59
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YF-23 posted:ERT is pro-SYRIZA YF-23 posted:SYRIZA tried to play favourites with one of the four would-have-been channel owners. So you are agreeing with the statement that ERT is pro SYRIZA and that SYRIZA tried, unconstitutionally, to suppress TV channels that support the opposition and establish their pet TV channel.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:48
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Regarde Aduck posted:Do you actually know what communism is? Hollande was a lovely neo-liberal like the rest of European leaders. Only he was wearing the centre-left uniform. Now the centre-right will take his place and enact exactly the same policies but with the ability to be more openly racist. You're a dickhead. corbyn's a trot infiltrator tho? by definition a communist?
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Oct 27, 2016 20:15
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jerehmoud corbynejihad has kidnapped the party. are you neolib enough to rescue the party from trots?
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Oct 27, 2016 22:35
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GaussianCopula posted:So you are agreeing with the statement that ERT is pro SYRIZA and that SYRIZA tried, unconstitutionally, to suppress TV channels that support the opposition and establish their pet TV channel. ERT is slightly pro-SYRIZA, yes. It's a very awkward situation because they very much want to avoid that association, so their news reports are incredibly mild every which way, and in the end, in spite of being pro-SYRIZA, they remain by far the most neutral network in Greece.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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What does it mean when you say these private TV stations don't have the proper oversight and why is that bad? You can't just mean swearing/gore?
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Oct 28, 2016 01:07
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Journalistic integrity is non existent. I will have to look for the graph tomorrow that showed their coverage of the referendum campaigns, it was ridiculous. They massively overrepresented the yes campaign compared to the no campaign, and in general have been very well near acting as New Democracy party instruments.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:51
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So todays eye rolling moment originating from the dysfunctional idiot mess known as the EU... Wants Finland to reduce taxes on sweets and candy for some idiot reason, who knows why? EU's gonna EU after all. Not to be outdone in the race to the bottom of the idiot barrel, our quisling-government proposes responds to this by proposing to reduce the coverage on diabetes medication and insulin.
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Oct 28, 2016 06:43
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His Divine Shadow posted:So todays eye rolling moment originating from the dysfunctional idiot mess known as the EU... Wants Finland to reduce taxes on sweets and candy for some idiot reason, who knows why? A minute of googling is enough to find out why: Finland's implementation of the tax discriminates between domestic and foreign producers. So, the European Commission, acting on complaints, did its job and told the Finnish government that the tax in its current form was incompatible with state aid rules (this happened last year btw). As a result, the Finnish government is now looking at taxing sugar in general instead. This is the sort of issue that has been happening pretty much since the EEC was founded by the way: member states will impose regulations that just happen to affect domestic and foreign producers of goods and services in an asymmetric manner (frequently) intentionally), people will complain, and the European Commission will investigate. As long as the regulations meet certain mandatory requirements of protection of public health or public policy, and proportionality, they will survive. Clearly the Finnish government didn't expect the tax to survive in a case brought before the CJEU. You may not like the results, but this is the system exactly working as intended.
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Oct 28, 2016 07:13
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Toplowtech posted:That's far too much. More seriously it's mostly guarantees on public service in Wallonia and something about the court of arbitration part of CETA, right? As I just noticed, the French-speaking socialists took out a full-page ad in the francophone version of the free railway newspaper here in Brussels. I might scan it when I get to work. The big thing is no private courts, and then some vague promises about consumer and trademark protection. We have yet to see how much it will actually impact the implementation of CETA.
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Oct 28, 2016 07:15
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Pluskut Tukker posted:A minute of googling is enough to find out why: Finland's implementation of the tax discriminates between domestic and foreign producers. So, the European Commission, acting on complaints, did its job and told the Finnish government that the tax in its current form was incompatible with state aid rules (this happened last year btw). As a result, the Finnish government is now looking at taxing sugar in general instead. gently caress the system, which is fortunately happening harder every day.
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Oct 28, 2016 07:22
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I'm sure that the EEC's ruling is judicially correct but their argument seems ridiculous at face value in the way that it is portrayed in that article.
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Oct 28, 2016 07:25
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MiddleOne posted:I'm sure that the EEC's ruling is judicially correct but their argument seems ridiculous at face value in the way that it is portrayed in that article. That's because it's a bad article that was written by a pressure group, so they took a deliberate slant on it. The proposed tax was formulated in a way that would arguably have constituted state aid to domestic producers while acting in a discriminatory fashion towards foreign based producers. There would be nothing wrong with a generalised tax on sugar, and would be the sort of thing that would be considered as not hindering the free movement of goods - public health is considered an acceptable justification, but it needs to be applied equally to all firms. It seems to me that what the government was trying to do was boost local producers for purely economic reasons while hiding behind a public health argument to do it.
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Oct 28, 2016 07:57
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It favors local producers and puts a higher price on sweets. It's a double win.
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Oct 28, 2016 08:16
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His Divine Shadow posted:It favors local producers and puts a higher price on sweets. It's a double win. Kinda rich for Finland to be one of the voices of 'screw the south for everything they're worth, what with their public services and uncompetitive industries', while trying to ensure their own (potentially) uncompetitive industries get subsidies using public health as an excuse, and then when told they'd have to apply to domestic firms as well took the brave, brave stance of saying 'fine, we won't tax it at all then!  'I'd have much more sympathy if they weren't preaching this poo poo outside their own borders and then doing it internally.
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Oct 28, 2016 08:19
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Free market ideology is all fun and games until you're the one who has a competitive disadvantage.
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Oct 28, 2016 08:23
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Pesmerga posted:Kinda rich for Finland to be one of the voices of 'screw the south for everything they're worth, what with their public services and uncompetitive industries', while trying to ensure their own (potentially) uncompetitive industries get subsidies using public health as an excuse, and then when told they'd have to apply to domestic firms as well took the brave, brave stance of saying 'fine, we won't tax it at all then! The free market sucks, always has always will, it's advocates are subhuman scum. News at 11?
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Oct 28, 2016 08:29
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MiddleOne posted:Free market ideology is all fun and games until you're the one who has a competitive disadvantage. Right? I'm not saying I love the free market, I'd rather that we had increased public ownership with good employment prospects, more public money dedicated to infrastructure projects and research to make better products etc. But if you're going to be a bunch of austerity and privatisation supporting pricks, I won't fee much sympathy when you try to do things contrary to that policy position while hiding behind things like public health or safety to do so.
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Oct 28, 2016 08:30
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His Divine Shadow posted:The free market sucks, always has always will, it's advocates are subhuman scum. News at 11? Indeed. Replace Finnish government with socialists, stop supporting austerity politics and reshape EU with redistributive policies tia
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Oct 28, 2016 08:31
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Oh good, let's blame the EU for something completely irrelevant when our own government is responsible for austerity more destructive than anything the EU has ever demanded...
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Oct 28, 2016 08:32
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Pesmerga posted:Right? I'm not saying I love the free market, I'd rather that we had increased public ownership with good employment prospects, more public money dedicated to infrastructure projects and research to make better products etc. But if you're going to be a bunch of austerity and privatisation supporting pricks, I won't fee much sympathy when you try to do things contrary to that policy position while hiding behind things like public health or safety to do so. This is correct, our government are a bunch of austerity and privatisation supporting pricks whose biggest contribution to the world will be their eventual departure from it. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Oct 28, 2016 08:34
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Counterpoint: if the end of a hidden subsidy for salmiakki leads to their disparition, it will be a victory of the free market.
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Oct 28, 2016 09:01
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Counterpoint: if the end of a hidden subsidy for salmiakki leads to their disparition, it will be a victory of the free market. In before people start whining about ordoliberalism like it means something.
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Oct 28, 2016 09:04
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Pesmerga posted:In before people start whining about ordoliberalism like it means something. It has a wikipedia article, an intellectual tradition and its own journal.... why do you say it doesn't mean anything, would you explain, please? TIA. 
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I'm more of an hodorliberalist myself
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