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I dig it. https://twitter.com/LN2_R0gue/status/1642885986517434373?t=nUkvv_MV26LLVc4VXIiiFQ&s=19
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Looks pretty fuckin' gangster! First time I'm hearing of this model, but it looks like this gen's been out since 2022 though and there are more photos and details on wikipedia   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Grandeur
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Twerk from Home posted:Yeah, the AM radio demographic is old and conservative, who I thought would be important buyers for Ford. AM radio regular usage may be dying, but I just don't understand what costs they're saving by dropping it. There’s still a disconnect in how you are understanding the decision from Ford though IMO. The point all of the above posts have been making is not that AM radio demographic is old and conservative, it’s that it’s so old and conservative it is nearing extinction. If the number of people who purchase a car and want to use its AM radio is small enough, removing the part numbers will save the manufacturer real money. It could be well more than $1 per car, I don’t know. If the dollar profit created by purchasers who need an AM radio becomes small enough, the dollars per year from all cars sold to people who care about AM radio may not be enough to pay the annual salary of the manufacturer employees that need to coordinate the $1 AM radio part numbers, design it into the infotainment, test it, etc. They’d much rather pay people to work on features that sell cars, any cars, and AM radio no longer does.
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Apr 3, 2023 21:10
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I dig it. Those wheels look like they came straight from 1980 Edit: Oh, that's the point. I see
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Apr 3, 2023 21:10
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pik_d posted:Those wheels look like they came straight from 1980 Or 2002 
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So, it's not just the AM radio which is probably cents in the BOM. There's significant engineering effort that would go into making a functional AM radio on an electric vehicle due to the shielding and filtering required to keep the car's systems from interfering with the signal. At this point, you have to decide if it's worth keeping through a legislative route, requiring cars to keep it around via regulations. Otherwise it's going away because it is not something that makes financial sense to develop.
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Apr 3, 2023 21:36
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It looks like a knock-off of itself. Impressive.
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That's not even a GTA car, it's a drat Saints Row car.
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They figured out how to make people appreciate the kidneys on the M3/4s.
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bull3964 posted:So, it's not just the AM radio which is probably cents in the BOM. There's significant engineering effort that would go into making a functional AM radio on an electric vehicle due to the shielding and filtering required to keep the car's systems from interfering with the signal. I guess that my question then is why AM radios worked in the early / cheap EVs and are in the older, non-updated ones. The Nissan Leaf has AM radio, the Tesla Model S/X and early 3s had AM radio, all the Korean EVs and PHEVs have AM radio. Is there something that makes newer EVs electrically noisier?
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I dig it. Looks like what the darnon fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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Twerk from Home posted:I guess that my question then is why AM radios worked in the early / cheap EVs and are in the older, non-updated ones. The Nissan Leaf has AM radio, the Tesla Model S/X and early 3s had AM radio, all the Korean EVs and PHEVs have AM radio. Is there something that makes newer EVs electrically noisier? Because it's not impossible. It just costs more (doesn't matter if those EVs were 'cheap' as that's irrelevant when we are talking about overall vehicle profits.) It's the same thing about eliminating dipsticks and other cost optimizations. It costs more to put AM radio on electric vehicles and it's not an in-demand feature so they know they can remove it and pocket the money without affecting a statistically measurable amount of sales.
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mobby_6kl posted:Looks pretty fuckin' gangster! If you look at the C pillar closely enough and spot the Ford Sierra hatchback similarity, you can no longer unsse it. At least I cannot.
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a podcast for cats posted:If you look at the C pillar closely enough and spot the Ford Sierra hatchback similarity, you can no longer unsse it. At least I cannot. The window has me thinking caprice  the whole thing is very sierra though 
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a podcast for cats posted:If you look at the C pillar closely enough and spot the Ford Sierra hatchback similarity, you can no longer unsse it. At least I cannot. Made me think of the Merkur, but yeah, I think yours is closer. 
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a podcast for cats posted:If you look at the C pillar closely enough and spot the Ford Sierra hatchback similarity, you can no longer unsse it. At least I cannot. I get ya, but, only on that matte paint/chrome trim spec. The blacked out version looks way better.  The extra window not having chrome trim like the larger window opening is what does it. Edit: PYF extra C pillar window. Sierra done, so how about a VS Statesman/Caprice: 
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Fuuuuck that's the new m2 lmao I guess I thought the last gen was the current one a podcast for cats posted:If you look at the C pillar closely enough and spot the Ford Sierra hatchback similarity, you can no longer unsse it. At least I cannot. Huh yeah you're right! It didn't really stand out to me but I guess that type of little window is pretty uncommon nowadays.  
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BuckyDoneGun posted:Edit: PYF extra C pillar window. Sierra done, so how about a VS Statesman/Caprice: Why stop there? Gimme B-pillar windows 
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The embargo lifted for on-road impressions of the Mazda CX-90: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySFl1m_KWlA
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darnon posted:Why stop there? Gimme B-pillar windows Opera windows?  e: not that your example is an opera window.
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I want that fuckin Lincoln with a 460.
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That’s what it has also has two tone interior. 
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Apr 4, 2023 02:55
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God why can’t cars be like that anymore
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Twerk from Home posted:I guess that my question then is why AM radios worked in the early / cheap EVs and are in the older, non-updated ones. The Nissan Leaf has AM radio, the Tesla Model S/X and early 3s had AM radio, all the Korean EVs and PHEVs have AM radio. Is there something that makes newer EVs electrically noisier? They probably learned that it's not worth the time successor models. Literally everything affects AM and at least for some OEMs, a significant amount of testing is only on complete cars which is when you find out there's a tiny detectable hum at a single frequency that mandates part changes right when you want to be settling in for launch. PCBs and/or components are exactly what you don't want to be sourcing or changing on a tight schedule and god forbid the design update doesn't fix it or makes another tiny buzz. 
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mobby_6kl posted:Fuuuuck that's the new m2 lmao I guess I thought the last gen was the current one Quarter lights like that stayed common, it's the extra window not part of the door that counts.
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darnon posted:Looks like what the EV6 could have been if they leaned into ripping off the Lucid Air styling. EV6 concept looked hot but the production one 
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Anyone have any familiarity with the VW Taos? The base model seems pretty reasonably priced at ~$25k. I'm not familiar with VW at all though.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:EV6 concept looked hot but the production one Woops, actually got my Kia/Hyundai -6 EVs mixed up. Meant the Ioniq 6.
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People are tired of the angry mostly-grille designs and are calling our cars ugly, what should we do? Oh, I know...how about "allergic reaction to being stung by bees?" Brilliant good whatever, now get back to figuring out how we can charge rent for the air in the tires.
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Sab669 posted:TPMSaaS? Whenever you park your car, it will send its current GPS location to one of our roving independent contractor tire inflation specialists to check the pressure in your tires within 5 minutes* and send an alert in your companion app if any are low. * times outside the city limits of San Francisco may be longer
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In order to avoid certain legal complications, the trucks are always rolling
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my toyota is best toyota because laaaaaarggeeeeeeee 
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If that’s the grand highlander they’re gonna sell so many of them they won’t be able to keep up.
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darnon posted:Woops, actually got my Kia/Hyundai -6 EVs mixed up. Meant the Ioniq 6. That's OK, I did too 
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darnon posted:Woops, actually got my Kia/Hyundai -6 EVs mixed up. Meant the Ioniq 6. I was going to say, what the heck is wrong with EV6? I like it and the ioniq5 a lot. Ioniq 6 looks like a porpoise though. No thanks
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Another new GR product the US can't have:  A....tray?  Indeed:    This is what AU/NZ are getting as the "Dakar inspired" Hilux GR Sport - slightly different to what South Africa, Japan and Thailand get already with the same name, with a bit more done to it. https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/2023-hilux-gr-sport-revealed-hilux-halo-coming-to-aus-this-year quote:Under the bonnet is the familiar 2.8-litre turbo-diesel four-cylinder making 165kW of power at 3000rpm and 550Nm of torque at 2800rpm – increases of 15kW and 50Nm over a normal ’Lux. https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/131708869/pricing-revealed-for-the-most-powerful-toyota-hilux-yet quote:Toyota New Zealand has confirmed pricing for its new Hilux GR Sport – the most agro, capable, and powerful Hilux the brand has produced to date. To clarify pricing: Hilux is US$47.2k including GST, including On Road Costs but not 'Clean Car Tax'. Raptor Ranger is US$58.6k including GST, not including ORC, not including CCT. NZ Car buying terms Cliff Notes: GST: 15% on everything. ORC: first time costs like registration, plates, inspection, dealer poo poo, usually about NZ$600ish. CCT: Clean Car Tax, or "Ute Tax" if you're a hardworking tradie or farmer or a politician courting populist votes. Sliding tax based on CO2 emissions - vehicles over 192g CO2 pay a tax which directly funds a cash rebate for newly registered EV and hybrid buyers (under 146g CO2). So the Hilux will get hit with around $NZ3800 of CCT, while the buyer of an NZ$80k EV (the max price eligible for rebate, base Tesla Model 3 is priced to hit that point) get about NZ$8300k cash monies back from the govt. Applies to freshly imported used cars too. Buying a used Toyota Aqua/Prius C fresh off the boat from Japan for about NZ$12k gets you about $1500ish back, so it's not just for rich people buying brand new Teslas.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:Another new GR product the US can't have: A prius C only costs $12k? Regarding the other super cool GR Toyota we can’t get: wtf why can’t we have it? I’m jealous and just hoping we get at least a Maverick ST.
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Dr. Lunchables posted:A prius C only costs $12k? BuckyDoneGun posted:Buying a used Toyota Aqua/Prius C fresh off the boat from Japan for about NZ$12k gets you about $1500ish back, so it's not just for rich people buying brand new Teslas. I mention freshly imported used cars from Japan because that's where we get a huge amount of our fleet and Aqua's for about $10-12k is about the cheapest hybrid you can buy and still get a CCT rebate, just illustrating the financials in our market. Dr. Lunchables posted:Regarding the other super cool GR Toyota we can’t get: wtf why can’t we have it? Chicken tax. You don't build the Hilux there and Toyota clearly doesn't think they'd sell enough to make it worth it.
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