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EoRaptor posted:Nobody really answered this, but you should try stripping the mech using the strip mech button, saving it, then going back into the mechlab and building it again. This was already answered, but the original questioner was not noticing the locked-in heatsink because smurfy doesn't show it greyed out like it shows up in the mechlab.
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Supraluminal posted:Do you mean LBX autocannons? They are complete poo poo, many goons gently caress around with LBX dire wolf builds and they are totally useless. The only kill you will ever get is when you steal the kills as your team mates are steamrolling people at the end of the match.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:39
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Washout posted:They are complete poo poo, many goons gently caress around with LBX dire wolf builds and they are totally useless. The only kill you will ever get is when you steal the kills as your team mates are steamrolling people at the end of the match. Wahh kill stealing wahh
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Feb 15, 2016 20:41
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Washout posted:They are complete poo poo, many goons gently caress around with LBX dire wolf builds and they are totally useless. The only kill you will ever get is when you steal the kills as your team mates are steamrolling people at the end of the match. They could give the Legendkiller a 50% LBX spread quirk and they would still be bad.
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Olesh posted:This was already answered, but the original questioner was not noticing the locked-in heatsink because smurfy doesn't show it greyed out like it shows up in the mechlab. Yet another reason to just use 5 SPL instead of 6. ZenVulgarity posted:Wahh kill stealing wahh I too blew 3 million cbills on 6 LBX-AC5's, the best match was when phorashi charged straight at me with a nova without even twisting and cored me out before I even turned his armor orange.
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By means of observation i discovered the following: Direwolf with 6xAC2 is utter poo poo.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:44
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Yolomon Wayne posted:By means of observation i discovered the following: Direwolf with 6xAC2 is utter poo poo. With or without fire control
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Yolomon Wayne posted:By means of observation i discovered the following: Direwolf with 6xAC2 is utter poo poo. http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/125457-fire-control-proper-chain-fire-for-mwo-tag-toggle-jump-jet-spam-fc-306-16th-jul/
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Feb 15, 2016 20:45
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LBXs are not effective, but blasting things with shotguns is fun
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Yolomon Wayne posted:By means of observation i discovered the following: Direwolf with 6xAC2 is utter poo poo. Yeah if they're not using the thing Washout posted, then they're rubbish.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:47
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Tujague posted:LBXs are not effective, but blasting things with shotguns is fun Quad lb10x mauler is my dream and I will have it
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Feb 15, 2016 20:48
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ZenVulgarity posted:With or without fire control From the looks of it, without.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:49
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I mean, check this out. The build is pretty lovely, but the guy is using ADHD Fire control (skip to 5:40) and it shows how chainfire should work.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe-GL_SPt90 Patch preview, but the important part is the flamer visual update and the note that overheat from flamers is limited to a maximum of 90%, so really good but not comedy lockdown.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:55
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ZenVulgarity posted:Quad lb10x mauler is my dream and I will have it Here is that build in a perfect situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t78YZCHARkY
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Feb 15, 2016 20:57
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Pattonesque posted:Here is that build in a perfect situation  I want it
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Feb 15, 2016 20:59
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Pattonesque posted:Here is that build in a perfect situation Yeah, I need this. I've been running a K2 with LBX10s for a little while and having a blast with it.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:06
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Is taking front CT damage and then taking back CT damage at the same time a thing? I feel like this happens to me on occasion and and I wanted to make sure I'm not crazy. Not ruling out Goon teammates shooting me in the rear CT when I'm taking frontal damage.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:17
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I will have a 6 ac2 king crab in my garage until the game goes down. Or until they release a 100 ton Jagermech with 6 arm hard points.
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Super 3 posted:Is taking front CT damage and then taking back CT damage at the same time a thing? I feel like this happens to me on occasion and and I wanted to make sure I'm not crazy. Not ruling out Goon teammates shooting me in the rear CT when I'm taking frontal damage. Front/back is only differentiated for armour. A section that has no more armour coverage will start to take internals damage and internals do not have a front/back system.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:21
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Number19 posted:Front/back is only differentiated for armour. A section that has no more armour coverage will start to take internals damage and internals do not have a front/back system. That makes sense but I feel like I've suffered this with armor rather than internals. The picture does show what you describe and I just reused it for illustrative purposes.
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Super 3 posted:Is taking front CT damage and then taking back CT damage at the same time a thing? I feel like this happens to me on occasion and and I wanted to make sure I'm not crazy. Not ruling out Goon teammates shooting me in the rear CT when I'm taking frontal damage. Some mechs have front CT hitboxes on the back of their heads. (or did way back when, they might not anymore)
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Astroniomix posted:Some mechs have front CT hitboxes on the back of their heads. (or did way back when, they might not anymore) Some also have the front CT visible from the rear if you have a height advantage. Jenner, dragon, marauder, king crab, etc all have this feature.
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Super 3 posted:That makes sense but I feel like I've suffered this with armor rather than internals. The picture does show what you describe and I just reused it for illustrative purposes. There's some sports where one tiny bit of the opposite side hitbox can bleed through. You could also see some host state rewind glitches on occasion where the collision gets calculated on the opposite side for projectiles in cases of extreme lag (possibly, not sure, don't quote me on this one).
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Great Beer posted:I will have a 6 ac2 king crab in my garage until the game goes down. Or until they release a 100 ton Jagermech with 6 arm hard points. Well, there IS a jager with 6 cannon ports, but you will need to XL and then have low ammo sadly...
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Number19 posted:There's some sports where one tiny bit of the opposite side hitbox can bleed through. You could also see some host state rewind glitches on occasion where the collision gets calculated on the opposite side for projectiles in cases of extreme lag (possibly, not sure, don't quote me on this one). It seems like on most mechs, if you shoot the taint from behind (the area in the middle where the legs connect), it hits front CT. The reverse seems much rarer in my experience, although host state rewind always throws me for a loop because it means I have to torso twist earlier and further than it feels like I should have to relative to incoming fire. Washout posted:Yet another reason to just use 5 SPL instead of 6. Run 5 SPL with two extra heatsinks until you have elited the chassis. Once you elite the chassis, pull off a heatsink and throw on the 6th SPL because the bonus you get from eliting it is slightly higher than the bonus you would have gotten from the heatsink. Or just learn to manage your heat and run 6 SPL + 1 heatsink. 5 SPL is outright inferior because the list of things that will not die in two buttshots from a 5 SPL cheetah is much longer than the list of things that will not die in two buttshots from a 6 SPL cheetah.
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Testing 6xUAC2 direwolf with firecontrol, wish me luck.
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It makes my machine stutter and lag. Which was built for, and does an excellent job at, running witcher 3 at ultimate settings.
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Feb 15, 2016 22:08
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Maybe ur poo poo mate
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ZenVulgarity posted:Maybe ur poo poo mate Yes, me being poo poo is responsible for drop in machine performance.
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Its come to my attention that people were talking about the Black Lanner. look at that sexy waddle.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Its come to my attention that people were talking about the Black Lanner. Banana peel and laugh track please.
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Stringbean posted:I mean, check this out. The build is pretty lovely, but the guy is using ADHD Fire control (skip to 5:40) and it shows how chainfire should work. How does this even work? I thought guns were supposed to have cooldowns.
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starkebn posted:How does this even work? I thought guns were supposed to have cooldowns. they do, but the AC/2 down cooldown is incredibly quick. Regular chainfire doesn't fire fast enough to keep up with the AC/2's ROF. The macro lets you do that. I'm not sure how useful it is over groupfire beyond screenshake/annoyance, but it definitely seems cool
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starkebn posted:How does this even work? I thought guns were supposed to have cooldowns. They have cooldowns, this is specifically chainfiring them after their cooldown is over instead of waiting for the default chainfire time (which is way longer than the cooldown for certain guns).
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Pattonesque posted:they do, but the AC/2 down cooldown is incredibly quick. Regular chainfire doesn't fire fast enough to keep up with the AC/2's ROF. The macro lets you do that. It's only better for screenshake and fulfilling your basic Rambo fantasy. Group fire is better 99% of the time (for all weapons, not just rapid-fire ACs) since it means you're hitting one component with each salvo instead of hosing damage all over a moving target. The only time I use chain fire is when I'm riding the overheat line and I want to incrementally put damage on an open component so as to blow it up ASAP with the minimum heat expenditure.
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Feeling bored today so i'm coming back as Seadogs. Although I haven't played since the days we could still bait half the opposing team to disconnect with the "Alt-F4 for third person" shtick and I think Awesomes were the flavor of the day. I have no idea what I'm doing now.
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Chainfire just puts a 0.5 second delay after one weapon of the group has fired. On some weapon that lines up perfectly (AC5,s for example) but on most it doesn't even remotely line up.
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I know group fire is typically better, but god drat is that fire support thing so satisfying.
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