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bees x1000 posted:chapters like this give me hope that the anime will be able to smooth the rough patches from the last few years and be 100% awesome. Yeah this chapter would work a lot better in motion
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# ? May 17, 2024 23:05 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 01:37 |
Its actually just Gojo's upper half walking around on his hands
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# ? May 18, 2024 01:18 |
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The smartest sorcerer of the heinan era vs the smartest human of all time i love todo
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# ? May 18, 2024 02:39 |
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sukuna was unfortunately a desiccated finger during the rise of idols and thus can't comprehend todos well of strength
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# ? May 18, 2024 02:44 |
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todo showing that binding vows made on the fly are crutches for lowiq sorcerers, a real genius makes the single vow that's necessary for victory
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# ? May 18, 2024 02:47 |
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How far away is Hakari's fight? I'd like to see Uraume boogie their way into Sukuna's next domain expansion.
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# ? May 18, 2024 02:56 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:todo showing that binding vows made on the fly are crutches for lowiq sorcerers, a real genius makes the single vow that's necessary for victory
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# ? May 18, 2024 03:23 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:todo showing that binding vows made on the fly are crutches for lowiq sorcerers, a real genius makes the single vow that's necessary for victory
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# ? May 18, 2024 04:28 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:todo showing that binding vows made on the fly are crutches for lowiq sorcerers, a real genius makes the single vow that's necessary for victory Todo with prep time >>>>> Batman with prep time.
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# ? May 18, 2024 04:55 |
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lmao
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# ? May 18, 2024 17:01 |
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I feel like getting vibra-slap swapped would be very unpleasant and disorienting for the target!
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# ? May 19, 2024 00:06 |
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Great chapter this week.
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# ? May 19, 2024 16:33 |
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I'm divided on whether Todo (and maybe Nobara) coming back was always part of the plan or a response to fans loving those characters. The first feels more likely, given they were never shown to be dead, but it's weird to go this long without them if it was always part of the plan. I can't help but wonder if something happened that caused Gege to delay these characters returns in a way that hosed with the pacing.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:07 |
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I really do wonder if he had originally intended the series to end much sooner, but either 1) editorial pressures based on the success of the series (and anime) forced him to stretch out the Culling Game, or 2) he hadn't had things well planned out after Shibuya and greatly underestimated the time it might take to have the post-Shibuya developments play out in a reasonable manner. I can't decide between the two because it does feel stretched out, yet at the same time there are revelations and discoveries that do have a certain amount of payoff in the end.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:33 |
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I think trying to puzzle out imagined timelines and behind the scenes machinations and shifts to explain things is both a little weird and also will only leave you more unsatisfied.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:36 |
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I am confused by the end. Why is sukuna doing the gojo domain sign? Also is he dead? Yuji’s fingers are all up in this dude’s chest
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:43 |
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Taima posted:I am confused by the end. Why is sukuna doing the gojo domain sign? Also is he dead? Yuji’s fingers are all up in this dude’s chest He swapped the original Enten sign of Malevolent Shrine with the Gojo domain sign with a binding vow the last time he did Domain Expansion because he doesn't have left hands anymore, so he can't do the correct handsign.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:46 |
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Oh poo poo right. Thanks!
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:47 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I think trying to puzzle out imagined timelines and behind the scenes machinations and shifts to explain things is both a little weird and also will only leave you more unsatisfied. Dissatisfaction is like 99% of the reason why I post. And why would you think that? I'm always interested in the creative process and how stories turn out the way they do, whether intentionally or otherwise. I'm not trying to game out an alternate storyline, just interested in why/how it turned out this way, because in the end it was a creative choice that left people dissatisfied for what seems an excessive period of time. Obviously we're yet to see if the payoff (if any) sheds some light in a way that makes sense, or at least satisfies the reader, and either way a post-mortem can actually add to one's understanding of authorial intent.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:51 |
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:Dissatisfaction is like 99% of the reason why I post. Because it's entirely baseless speculation that can never ever actually give any real information so you're digging to find an answer to something that doesn't really need one. For example, in this case the reason Todo (and possibly others) were held back to the last minute is because they are textually stated to be the last trump cards to keep hidden against this enemy specifically. It's not the weird to go this long without seeing them because they were being held back for this specific moment and we had repeated character and story beats between disappearance and now that directly brought their absence into question and also indirectly did the same. That's not bad pacing or a delay that's just...a long build up. Trying to imagine some theoretical editor who forced Gege to change it from some previous earlier reveal that would nonetheless have their appearing here a big pop off moment is making up both a new version of the story you're imagining and also the devious machinations of the external forces that forced the author to change from them. It's just silly. And there is no possible way to gain anything from it other than making yourself more dissatisfied over imagined bad actors or turns of fate that changed it from an imagined version of the story you thought was going to exist and have also made up.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:56 |
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I don't think the problem with the Culling Games is that they're too long, but just that there isn't enough meat to the character interactions. If anything, I think the manga needed an interstitial arc in between Gojo being freed and the big fighting roulette, even though that would have made hiding the training stuff and putting it in flashbacks more difficult.
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:00 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Because it's entirely baseless speculation that can never ever actually give any real information so you're digging to find an answer to something that doesn't really need one. I just told you that's not what I'm doing, though. Whether the story holds together in the end is its own issue, as far as I'm concerned. The reasons why can be enlightening, but it won't change that assessment and, just like you, I'm not interested in speculating on exact could-have-beens. That's all.
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:06 |
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:I just told you that's not what I'm doing, though. But you cannot know the reasons why so that's also just speculating. Like the "Oh I wonder if the editor made him change something" as a consideration is built on speculating it was one thing and it has been changed to turn into what we got. It's built on speculating on a could-have-been being forced to change into a here-and-now
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:07 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:But you cannot know the reasons why so that's also just speculating. Like the "Oh I wonder if the editor made him change something" as a consideration is built on speculating it was one thing and it has been changed to turn into what we got. It's built on speculating on a could-have-been being forced to change into a here-and-now can a motherfucker not wonder in this thread or what
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:10 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:can a motherfucker not wonder in this thread or what can a motherfucker not think it's incredibly silly to wonder about things that both aren't the story and might not even exist when talking about a story? Like at the end of the day, whether or not the author changed something in writing to get to where it is today doesn't really matter, it doesn't change the story. As a postmortem where maybe you've got some info or interviews I can kind of get it but doing it while the plot is still going when you have 0 behind the scenes info seems goofy. It's just wild speculation. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 18:15 on May 19, 2024 |
# ? May 19, 2024 18:12 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:can a motherfucker not think it's incredibly silly to wonder about things that both aren't the story and might not even exist when talking about a story? a motherfucker can, and hopefully could say so without such condescension
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:14 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:a motherfucker can, and hopefully could say so without such condescension Like I said, it just seems silly as hell because there's literally no info to base it on. It's just reading a plot point you may or may not like and making something up about the construction of the story to theorize why it's like that. That's not really a conversation or discussion anyone can add to because it's just nothing but the posters gut feeling. Which is why I said to start I said I think it's a little weird and cannot lead to a satisfactory answer or discussion. Also I'm sorry if you're reading condescension into any of these posts, I don't intend it. It's why I'm saying things like "I think it's just silly" because I don't want to be too inflammatory. Outside of the quoted post of course but that was meeting you where you were. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 19, 2024 |
# ? May 19, 2024 18:16 |
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I just wish the military hadn't been involved still not sure what the point of that was
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# ? May 19, 2024 19:13 |
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Shinjobi posted:I just wish the military hadn't been involved I think it's meant to explain the lack of outside aid coming when it looks to the rest of the world like just a warzone? But also it did let Kenjaku show off some stuff before his like two actual fights one of which was mostly comedy bits.
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# ? May 19, 2024 20:07 |
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Shinjobi posted:I just wish the military hadn't been involved
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# ? May 19, 2024 20:07 |
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Makes me happy that we’re back to peak JJK in the final (?) fight. Especially when I see how the end of MHA is going. I think the Takaba fight is what restored my faith in the manga and it hasn’t been misplaced.
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:04 |
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it was a little out-of-left-field but i think the sudden focus on binding vows was a good call, since it showed sukuna having to rewrite his powerset on the fly because he doesn't have the juice to unleash their original versions anymore much better than the usual approach where the villain smugly goes "nuh-uh" for sixty chapters and then disintegrates when the protagonist lands a punch or slash identical to the dozens they've tanked through prior
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:12 |
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I'd prefer the 'nuh-uh' tbh, in the sense that if he just had Sukuna doing crazy poo poo and not explaining why or how. I don't mind it too much or anything but I've never really understood the jjk combat system and I just can't really follow the Binding Vow stuff and it comes off weird to me.
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:32 |
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the binding vow stuff basically IS a nuh uh, like he binding vowed to use gojos hand sign because the heroes disabled his ability to use his other hand. Thats a nuh uh with window dressing. I think the big problem with binding vows is we ve never shown them actually have a consequence or had anyone break one and suffer a reprisal, so there is very little stakes or tension within the system. Each chapter could feature a new asspull binding vow and id just go ok whatever.
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:35 |
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Shinjobi posted:I just wish the military hadn't been involved Sorcerers weren't dying and spending energy fast enough (the new rules meant that the players didn't need to kill each other), and because it was sorcerers killing each other, there were no cursed spirits hanging around outside of the roach. Introduce a bunch of normal humans, who have a goal of capturing or killing sorcerers, combine that with any sorcerers they kill turning into cursed spirits, and you get a whole lot of energy being gathered and spent again.
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:52 |
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been pointed out that the vibraslap sfx matches the sfx from yuta murking kenjaku, and lake gosho is the colony where yuta kills kenjaku. so it was almost certainly boogie woogie but it wasn't yuta using it
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:57 |
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TheHan posted:been pointed out that the vibraslap sfx matches the sfx from yuta murking kenjaku, and lake gosho is the colony where yuta kills kenjaku. so it was almost certainly boogie woogie but it wasn't yuta using it Can someone put these side by side? In the Viz chapter its KLANG and the vibraslap is Rattle & Bink & Bonk?? Im still not seeing it.
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# ? May 20, 2024 02:15 |
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Oxxidation posted:it was a little out-of-left-field but i think the sudden focus on binding vows was a good call, since it showed sukuna having to rewrite his powerset on the fly because he doesn't have the juice to unleash their original versions anymore
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# ? May 20, 2024 02:17 |
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My take on the binding vows fixation is that it’s the explanation on why Sukuna is so dominant as the King of Curses. It’s just something that needs to make sense in your head at the time, there isn’t some all-powerful Jujutsu God determining if you secretly broke a vow or if it’s reasonable. So Sukuna is the best at gaslighting himself into thinking that ridiculous vows that boost his strength for minimal consequences are actually totally fair and valid. Gojo is the greatest of the modern era because limitless and six-eyes basically break the rules all on their own. Sukuna is the greatest in history because he’s read the manual cover to cover multiple times and knows how to game the system. Dude probably didn’t even have much cursed energy to begin with but made a vow that he will have a nearly unlimited pool of cursed energy but if he ever stands on his head while looking at the moon when he is underwater his left pinky toe will turn blue.
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# ? May 20, 2024 03:16 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 01:37 |
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drat I've looked forward to a lot of next chapters of this manga, but I'm REALLY looking forward to this next chapter. This whole Sukuna fight is an all-timer crazy shonen manga fight. I don't think I've seen this much crazy bullshit involving all sorts of characters and abilities since the end of Naruto.
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# ? May 20, 2024 03:35 |