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At least halflings' innate rMut serves a unique purpose now 
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Hopefully the devs can get rid of all the silly mechanics like hunger and poison and ranged combat and potion iding so we can have room for more species like hoppy frogboys and woof woof dogdudes
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Jun 13, 2017 17:14
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Nagas gain piety faster, but only really because more things are faster than them. They also have a lower speed at max piety so they do more damage with slouch.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:41
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I like the religious starts, and to me it would make sense to have ones for the gods with the more drastic effects
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Jun 13, 2017 17:48
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When did they completely remove potions of gain attribute from the game?
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Jun 13, 2017 17:56
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neongrey posted:In terms of background, I'm honestly not sure why there's all these separate elementalists as opposed to a single elementalist, and then you pick your book, the same way the weapon classes let you pick a weapon. There must be some sort of reason for it since it's been like this so long, but yeah. the elemental books all play fairly differently so it doesn't seem right to merge the backgrounds, if anything it's Wz and/or Cj that should go away
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Jun 13, 2017 18:08
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Wizards have the "jack of all trades" spellbook; it has a little bit of everything. Conjurers have the "focused on killing things magically at a distance" spellbook; no utility just tonnes of damage. You'd be hard pressed to merge them when they are doing very different things.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:22
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Bob NewSCART posted:When did they completely remove potions of gain attribute from the game? I don't remember exactly when but it was replaced with !beneficial mutation
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Jun 13, 2017 18:32
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someone awful. posted:I don't remember exactly when but it was replaced with !beneficial mutation And now those have been removed and replaced with just potions of mutation Lol
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Jun 13, 2017 18:42
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Sage Grimm posted:Wizards have the "jack of all trades" spellbook; it has a little bit of everything. Conjurers have the "focused on killing things magically at a distance" spellbook; no utility just tonnes of damage. You'd be hard pressed to merge them when they are doing very different things. i meant removing them, not merging them. I've always kind of disliked the existence of Conjurations as a school of magic in general though.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:19
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Tales of Woe posted:the elemental books all play fairly differently so it doesn't seem right to merge the backgrounds, if anything it's Wz and/or Cj that should go away Conjurer might as well not exist without battlesphere tbh
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Jun 13, 2017 21:33
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juggalo baby coffin posted:I like the religious starts, and to me it would make sense to have ones for the gods with the more drastic effects Merchant start: Begin by worshiping Gozag with 800 gold, a robe, a loaf of bread, and no skills.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:35
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Missed opportunity for the loaf of bread to be a ham haunch. (Because HAM would wield it and swing to optimize HP regen against turn count)
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Jun 13, 2017 23:48
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jon joe posted:Merchant start: Begin by worshiping Gozag with 800 gold, a robe, a loaf of bread, and no skills.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:30
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I got my One Win for the tournament with, unusually, a VsGl of Gozag. Surprisingly unlucky with gear--no rElec items all game, took forever to get a brand scroll, etc. I almost died in a weird-rear end Zot vault where draconians forcibly blinked me into an obelisk tornado thing I didn't really have a good way to get out of. Fortunately it didn't do a lot of damage through my AC, so Potion Petitions kept me alive until I could teleport out. Speaking of which, is Potion Petition always 400 gold now?! That's pretty great! That makes Gozag much better than he was. Having now gone through Zot as a melee dude, I can say definitely that the removal of rMut really sucks. OoFs would come into sight and mutate me and there wasn't poo poo I could do about it. It's frustrating and really doesn't add anything to the game. Bribe Branch is pretty loving great, it made Vaults 5 a cakewalk. cheetah7071 posted:Conjurer might as well not exist without battlesphere tbh Right? That change single-handedly ruined conjurer. The spells you get just aren't good enough to keep up with the dungeon, as a blasty guy. And Cj was my favorite start.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:30
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I think you won too late for it to count, fam. 
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Jun 14, 2017 00:37
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jon joe posted:Merchant start: Begin by worshiping Gozag with 800 gold, a robe, a loaf of bread, and no skills.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:10
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someone awful. posted:I think you won too late for it to count, fam. Aww, man, I didn't see that it ended a couple of days ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jun 14, 2017 01:14
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I wonder how long my BaAM highscore will last until some speedrunner smashes it.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:54
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Internet Kraken posted:I wonder how long my BaAM highscore will last until some speedrunner smashes it. It's a good score, but I'm sure someone will kick it up a notch.
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Jun 14, 2017 02:31
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SKULL.GIF posted:One of my favorite things about double and triple swords is that they show up in Blizzard games: When I first heard the term "double-bladed axe" that's the type of weird poo poo I thought of when I was little. Even having seen a legit one the connection just wasn't there in my retard brain.
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Jun 14, 2017 02:49
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Feature request: give fire orbs torment
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Jun 14, 2017 21:17
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Samog posted:Feature request: give fire orbs torment also this torment should halve MP as well as HP so spellcasters and hybrids don't get yet another unfair advantage
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Jun 14, 2017 22:14
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jon joe posted:Merchant start: Begin by worshiping Gozag with 800 gold, a robe, a loaf of bread, and no skills. Would play! I'd also like to see a starting artifact class like a Baker that gets a knife, robe, a <player name>'s cookbook that has flame tongue in it and a fixedart chef's hat with +stat and rF or something similar. Bonus: it could also have a chance to show up on the Spriggan Baker.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:16
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have a great character going good loot, early pot of exp vastly OOD spawn "i can take this" rip
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Jun 15, 2017 03:40
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Indecisive posted:have a great character going ime any time you find yourself saying "eh, I can take it" you need to get the gently caress off the floor
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Jun 15, 2017 03:56
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At least that's a learning experience. The worst deaths are always the completely unexpected ones. I had a character on D9 take on a troll and gargoyle at the same time and kill them with no damage taken (because lol casters). Then I took a single step forward and revealed Psyche who got a double action and quadzapped me with a lightning wand.
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Jun 15, 2017 04:13
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Racked up a post-tourney win. Never won with Xom before so I gave it a try. http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/kickascii/morgue-kickascii-20170615-040237.txt quote:2666460 kickascii the Slayer (level 27, 192/192 HPs) AC59  I chose Garg because I didn't want a hassle while I got my Xom win, and the Garg did not disappoint.Goofed around in early vault with a shield of the gong and had to burn around 5 teleport scrolls and generally had an awful time before I smartened up and used a normal shield. Xom had two pretty close murder attempts on me. The first I was stair dancing into depths1 and he teleported me and when I made it back to the only stairs up on the level, he kept moving them on me with a bunch of mobs around. Think I chugged most my heal wounds here. The second time was in zot5. He very quickly teleported me near the orb chamber so I just drank all my potions, grabbed the orb and started casting teleports. Around the 4rth or 5th teleport I made a break for the stairs. Fully buffed, swinging a +9 vampiric whip and Xom giving me Cleave allowed me to fully heal back up once on a bunch of orb guardians, which helped a lot. The run back up was a little more obnoxious than usual. I had to stand and fight 2 pan lords, and a lich abyssed me around D10. Xom hosed with me with a bunch of starcursed masses on the screen and I got paralyzed and got pretty low. While around 20% HP I stumbled upon the orb vault and it was this ez peazy one with basilisks and the beast that breathes stone dust. I was able to tab my health back up on those lair rejects, grab the 4rth rune, and get back out right away.
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Jun 15, 2017 05:15
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Finally got two runes with my formid, and the promptly got pounded into the pavement on vault 5. What is a good strategy for ants on vault 5? I managed to stair dance up and down several times and felt like I was doing alright but then the vault guardian locked the stairs. With no Tele I just had to stand there and get crushed.
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Jun 15, 2017 08:25
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Trunko posted:Finally got two runes with my formid, and the promptly got pounded into the pavement on vault 5.
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Jun 15, 2017 08:28
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What happens if you shaft yourself on V:4? You won't be able to teleport if you wind up in a lovely spot, but odds are it'll be better than the ambush zone.
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Jun 15, 2017 08:35
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Assuming you're playing a formicid, you'll have absolutely 0 retreat options so you'd better be sure you can survive fighting an entire quarter before you can rest up. With anyone else its probably a good idea since you can avoid waking up the ambush and hopefully dismantle its peicemeal after you've cleared the surrounding area.
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Jun 15, 2017 09:57
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Use TSO and go Crypt, maybe?
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Jun 15, 2017 10:03
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Trunko posted:Finally got two runes with my formid, and the promptly got pounded into the pavement on vault 5. Corrupt the stair area then Bend Space to blink away. Abyssal ants are the best ants.
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Jun 15, 2017 11:24
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PMush Perfect posted:Use TSO and go Crypt, maybe? Crypt doesn't have a rune, only Tomb does. It's probably me being overly cautious, but Tomb is always the last rune I go for on any character. I'd rather clear Hell and Pandemonium than deal with that.
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Jun 15, 2017 11:25
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Trunko posted:Finally got two runes with my formid, and the promptly got pounded into the pavement on vault 5. For most characters, I like reading a scroll of fear and then walking to a better spot (mapping can reveal if there's good terrain in the quadrants, otherwise just go to the edge).
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Jun 15, 2017 13:22
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Trunko posted:Finally got two runes with my formid, and the promptly got pounded into the pavement on vault 5. I've had good luck using abyss as a 3rd rune for ants. Still a little dicey without escape options, but the tunneling makes it easier to find places to get out of sight of the worst threats (wretched stars and the like).
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Jun 15, 2017 13:49
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For ants get a good crossbow (triple, preferably.), evocables, lightning/smite targeted wands and kill the wardens without leaving the stairs. You're not locked in there with them, they're locked in there with you.
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Jun 15, 2017 14:05
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redneck nazgul posted:Crypt doesn't have a rune, only Tomb does. I typically clear Tomb as soon as I have max piety with TSO on my melee characters; it's typically easier than Hell or Pan in that event, I feel.
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Can you switch from Uskuya to TSO with no punishment?
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