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Hogge Wild posted:Why is that blob there, by the way? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kelys#Origins
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Disco Infiva posted:I just love that Romania looks like an obese fish :3 It looks more like a fat chicken drumstick to me, to be honest. 
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I seem to remember that area of Transylvania has rather large number of valleys and plateaus in it, it is very possible that a group of Magyars moved them and became isolated over time. Also, there use to be more of a Hungarian population between the Romania/Hungarian border and that area. I do think Trianon was a gently caress up and could have been done better, there was no way to create an enclave in Transylvania but the borders could have been shifted to include a lot more Hungarians than they did rather than leaving Hungarian populations on the other side. If anything it could have saved a lot of bitterness and hassle for everyone involved and probably wouldn't have cost Slovakia/Romania that much territory. That said, Trianon was far from the only gross miscalculation happening in and around Paris in 1919.
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cheerfullydrab posted:You don't think it's sad that the blob on the right got screwed over in 1919? Not, it would have meant creating an enclave right in the middle of the country and since there are also plenty of romanians there you would have had enclaves within enclaves and all the silliness that goes with it. Also the hungarians pretty much screwed themselves over prior to that with their policies of forced magyarization and discrimination against the romanian majority in Transylvania (for example romanians weren't allowed to enter cities, weren't recognized as an ethnicity, and so on; it was kinda like an apartheid system) so in 1918 the local romanians and germans (saxons and swabians, who were also angry at the magyarization thing) voted for leaving Hungary and joining Romania. Then there was the war of 1919, Romania won and occupied all of Hungary, and the matter was settled.
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Torrannor posted:The really impressive thing about this map is how they managed to completely mislabeled it. Look at the legend and then at the individual numbers, it just doesn't mesh. They do make sense. Example: Finland has bit over 5 million people and had 255 Road Deaths in 2012 = 47 deaths per million people.
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Phlegmish posted:By the time it becomes profitable to extract resources in Antarctica, there is no guarantee that the US and Russia will still be able to project force across the globe to the same extent as today. In fact, Russia is looking dubious even today. Well yeah but Russia just conquered Crimea without even firing a shot.
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Peanut President posted:Well yeah but Russia just conquered Crimea without even firing a shot. Crimea is p. close to Russia.
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Hogge Wild posted:Crimea is p. close to Russia. And filled with people who support/identify with Russia. Penguins... maybe not so much.
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Give a penguin enough vodka and he'll vote for you.
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adhuin posted:They do make sense. Example: Finland has bit over 5 million people and had 255 Road Deaths in 2012 = 47 deaths per million people. Think he's talking about the legend, the most commonsense way to read it would make either the numbers or the colors wrong.
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Make Bavaria independent, give South Tyrol to Austria, and give Vorarlberg to Switzerland.  e: hm, that bundesadler should be crying. Oh well.
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"Some form" of universal health care? No difference between "no data" and "no universal health care"? A bad map.
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So literally no one else is changing their health care laws at the moment?
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Isn't universal health care literally guaranteed under Iraq's constitution?
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We don't have to worry about the Koreans re establishing their world hegemony, all we have to do is daisy chain some extension cords and set up a wall of oscillating fans. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
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Ammat The Ankh posted:They still own a couple islands in the Indian Ocean, so they're able to carve out a portion of Antarctica it looks like. I think it's probably got more to do with New Caledonia (which explains why it splits the Australian sector)
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Wait what is Norway doing, they're about as far as you can possibly get from Antarctica excluding, like, Greenland.
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I would assume its a historic claim since they were one of the early countries to explore it.
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Lycus posted:Making San Bernardino go with Orange County is so cruel. And potentially pass up 2 out of 8 Republican senators? I think not.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I would assume its a historic claim since they were one of the early countries to explore it. Or, you know, just the one that reached the South Pole first.
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Star Man posted:Or, you know, just the one that reached the South Pole first. Yawn, let me know when Norway discovers something more exciting than a continent of penguins. Emperor penguins loving own
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Does anyone have that map of what the claims would look like if every country used the "we own the closest piece of land due north of this section so it's ours" argument? I can't remember if it was posted in this thread it but it was kinda neat.
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Phlegmish posted:I've always found it interesting that there are still hundreds of thousands of Hungarians living in the middle of Romania. Are their numbers stable or are they slowly being assimilated? Based on demographic data here and here It seems that the population of Hungarians relative to the overall population was dropping up until 2002. Since then, the percentage of Hungarians in Romania has stayed around 6.5%. That said, it seems that the number of Hungarians living outside of Transylvania collapsed between 2002 and 2011 from around 15,000 to less than 3,000.
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made of bees posted:Does anyone have that map of what the claims would look like if every country used the "we own the closest piece of land due north of this section so it's ours" argument? I can't remember if it was posted in this thread it but it was kinda neat. Yes, that was in this thread earlier: 
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Calling it now: Senegalese Antarctica will be the world's sole superpower as of A.D. 3650 
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 I don't remember making a gif of this. Oh, wait, it might have been to show how long a usable gif would take, if a "quick" one like this took several minutes to loop. But I don't remember adding The Wedge to that... Also, thanks for reminding me I need to remake that map. And yes, I think I've been saying that for two years.
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BBJoey posted:Wait what is Norway doing, they're about as far as you can possibly get from Antarctica excluding, like, Greenland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvet_Island
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What's so special about a ~27% obesity rate? Why is that where they made the cutoff? Also, what about states that have a 26.1%-27% rate?
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double nine posted:Eh, that might as well be a map for population density. Actually it's more like poverty.jpg  Edit: The yellow parts showing spatial outlier poverty of course being manifest_destiny.jpg Edit2: Actually I guess there isn't as much overlap as I thought at first glance. With reservations, that is. 
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Craptacular posted:What's so special about a ~27% obesity rate? Why is that where they made the cutoff? Also, what about states that have a 26.1%-27% rate? Because republicans are fat & dumb rednecks lol
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Craptacular posted:What's so special about a ~27% obesity rate? Why is that where they made the cutoff? Because that cutoff is the one that made the colors most conveniently line up to support the author's cheap point-scoring.
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Craptacular posted:What's so special about a ~27% obesity rate? Maybe it means bigger than (almost) all the EU  
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