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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:We are never gonna get rid of the UK, aren't we? Out! Out! Damned Brit!
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Nov 3, 2016 12:53
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Toplowtech posted:Thank you, UK, for shooting every European countries in the knee, devaluating the Euro and the Pound over your fear of polish people, energizing the far rights and then panicking when the foreign banks started of talking about leaving you and then suddentlyu politely saying "Oh sorry, my bad, it was a mistake, i want to stay now". That was totally worth it.
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Nov 3, 2016 12:59
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Hambilderberglar posted:Can we not do a reverse empty chair crisis by just refusing to invite Britain to anything anymore? Most of the stuff is majority rather than unanimity now and their conspicuous absence in Slovakia was already noted.  from a legal standpoint. Also it would be kinda dickish to do that to poor hyper-confused-i--can't-take-a-decision UK. 
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Nov 3, 2016 13:20
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Toplowtech posted:and then suddentlyu politely saying "Oh sorry, my bad, it was a mistake, i want to stay now". That was totally worth it. You don't understand British humor at all
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Nov 3, 2016 13:21
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:You don't understand British humor at all vvvv Also i am sure it will fix the deficit in confidence of the English people toward its politicians. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 13:23
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Mikl posted:
If this kills Brexit it's going to be loving amazing. Talk about just completely blowing all your diplomatic capital and making yourself the laughingstock of the world.
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Nov 3, 2016 13:32
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:We are never gonna get rid of the UK, aren't we? gently caress that, leave means leave. 
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Nov 3, 2016 13:33
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YF-23 posted:If this kills Brexit it's going to be loving amazing. Talk about just completely blowing all your diplomatic capital and making yourself the laughingstock of the world. You mean they weren't already?
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Nov 3, 2016 13:36
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You mean they weren't already? I think a lot of people outside Europe did not realize the magnitude of the problem, at the least.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:17
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YF-23 posted:If this kills Brexit it's going to be loving amazing. Talk about just completely blowing all your diplomatic capital and making yourself the laughingstock of the world. Well, we decided that if we were going to be a laughing stock then by jove, Grate Britane would be the biggest laughing stock in the world, we could settle for nothing less.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:23
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In other (French) news, major newspaper Le Monde is currently pushing the story about how Sarkozy's 2007 campaign was probably partly financed by Gaddafi and Libya. They've had access to the investigation files and while there's no damning concrete evidence, there are lots of small elements that once put together paint a pretty explicit picture. But facts are useless and this rear end in a top hat won't lose any support from his rabid base (Juppé is still gonna trounce him). Also Renaud (the singer) is still alive and his current tour is p. cool. He sings like poo poo but the crowd is good.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:28
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You mean they weren't already? It's a terrible place and ran by a cabal of paedophile cannibals but there are worse places. Such as inside a volcano or a toilet full of poop. We count our selves lucky everyday we haven't fallen to those levels.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:49
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 Yes; let that clown car comes to the European Court of Justice.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:32
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You mean they weren't already? If parliament annuls a popular referendum you can be sure the clusterfuck that is this whole thing will only grow bigger.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:36
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YF-23 posted:If parliament annuls a popular referendum you can be sure the clusterfuck that is this whole thing will only grow bigger. Since when have the results of popular consultations in re: the EU ever mattered?
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Nov 3, 2016 15:51
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Since when have the results of popular consultations in re: the EU ever mattered? Because no one in the EU wants to go through this poo poo all over again in 10 years.
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Nov 3, 2016 16:04
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His Divine Shadow posted:War? The world pre-ww1 was about as globalized as todays according to some economists and that sure got killed fast, this was in finnish economists Christer Lindholms book on the myth of globalization cannot be stopped, is a force of nature etc. It's not, it's a distinct set of treaties that needed to be brought into existence, which happened in the 90s. Remember all those anti globalization demonstrations back then, I do, this was what it was about. Those "some economists" are either retarded, or you only read some popular interpretation on par with "Romans invented globalization because there are Roman glass vases in Korea"
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Nov 3, 2016 16:33
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Toplowtech posted:Thank you, UK, for shooting every European countries in the knee, devaluating the Euro and the Pound over your fear of polish people, energizing the far rights and then panicking when the foreign banks started of talking about leaving you and then suddentlyu politely saying "Oh sorry, my bad, it was a mistake, i want to stay now". That was totally worth it. I've never known a people to be as insanely xenophobic as the Brits. There are quite a few Poles in Belgium, maybe not as many as in Britain even proportionally, but still a respectable number. I've never heard anyone talk poo poo about them specifically. If they don't want them we should let them come over here. Balts too (hot chicks get moved to the front of the queue).
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Nov 3, 2016 16:54
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Phlegmish posted:I've never known a people to be as insanely xenophobic as the Brits. There are quite a few Poles in Belgium, maybe not as many as in Britain even proportionally, but still a respectable number. I've never heard anyone talk poo poo about them specifically. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 17:03
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Ardennes posted:I don't know how successful it is in the states looking at the current Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has been shred at the local/state level and it isn't doing so well at the federal level either. (I am taking this as literal considering this forum.) Phlegmish posted:If they don't want them we should let them come over here. Balts too (hot chicks get moved to the front of the queue).
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Nov 3, 2016 17:06
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steinrokkan posted:Those "some economists" are either retarded, or you only read some popular interpretation on par with "Romans invented globalization because there are Roman glass vases in Korea" No u
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Nov 3, 2016 17:20
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:We are never gonna get rid of the UK, aren't we? Did you not listen to the deathbed prophecy of the Finnish Prime Minister at all?
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Nov 3, 2016 18:23
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Toplowtech posted:
This is hilarious because I don't think the Court of Justice could really intervene here. Their case would most likely result in a polite "The procedure to trigger article 50 is not set out in the Treaties and thus up to every Member State to decide individually, in accordance with their internal laws" to get them to gently caress off.
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Nov 3, 2016 19:07
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Indeed, the only thing they could rule on would be to determine whether A50 notification is reversible or not. Both parties in the case take the position that it isn't, so there's no need to refer that question the CJEU.
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Nov 3, 2016 19:11
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Phlegmish posted:I've never known a people to be as insanely xenophobic as the Brits. A while back I remember reading a thing a Finnish reporter wrote about the rising xenophobia in Britain and how she was verbally accosted for being "Polish" because of her accent. It was truly shocking to be accused of being a slav!
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Nov 3, 2016 19:19
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Phlegmish posted:I've never known a people to be as insanely xenophobic as the Brits. australians?
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Nov 3, 2016 19:20
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Nov 3, 2016 19:25
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Phlegmish posted:I've never known a people to be as insanely xenophobic as the Brits. Corsicans are pretty awful, from the anecdotal evidence I have. (As in having bouncers tell you "you can't go inside, not with your black friend" in multiple places.)
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Nov 3, 2016 20:34
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Isn't that more due to structural issues than the will of the voters? Like, the system favors low population states full of Republicans, and even in states where the population is more balanced, gerrymandering has ensured a Republican grip on power which they then use to suppress minority voters, further entrenching their power. It is part of it, but at the same time Republicans have been able to take over state/local governments in areas that were almost entirely Democratic (especially the Midwest/Rustbelt). The fact that Trump has a real shot at winning at this point speaks to that decay (even with a electoral map that presumably favors Democrats). Ardennes fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 20:51
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YF-23 posted:If parliament annuls a popular referendum you can be sure the clusterfuck that is this whole thing will only grow bigger. And then the Brexit idiots are going to vote all the people who nullified the referendum right back in, because they barely think at the polls. Perhaps it should be a big deal, but it won't be. I'm sure Thatcher Junior there is going to find a scary boogeyman to distract attention.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:10
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A bigger part of why Trump has a chance is that Hilary is widely hated, considered corrupt and part of the establishment, and is under FBI investigation.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:11
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fishmech posted:Perhaps it should be a big deal, but it won't be. I'm sure Thatcher Junior there is going to find a scary boogeyman to distract attention.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:15
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marci is a bootlicking neoliberal who probably worships thatcher
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Nov 3, 2016 21:15
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doverhog posted:A bigger part of why Trump has a chance is that Hilary is widely hated, considered corrupt and part of the establishment, and is under FBI investigation. Isn't "part of the establishment" more or less the same thing as the issue being mentioned? Trump uses trade policy in his speeches at lot and it has always found resonance. Also the Democrats are struggling across the map, I think it is fair to say there is more than going on.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:22
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Sure, but Trump specifically has a chance despite all the poo poo he has on him because Hillary is seen as being terrible also.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:33
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doverhog posted:Sure, but Trump specifically has a chance despite all the poo poo he has on him because Hillary is seen as being terrible also. The issue is that he is even in a range of a victory at this point, a big part of it has to be "third-way" turn the Democrats did. Trump is more scandal ridden than any candidate in history and Hillary's scandals helped him quite a bit but there is a question of how even got into the race in the first place. I think the Democrats are supported by the fact there are no other parties them to challenge their dominance of the political spectrum from the center to the left, but the outcome has been disinterest and apathy by much of the electorate. It is also why Bernie Sanders, a relative no-body, gave Hillary a serious run for her money.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:41
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In a parliamentary sense, Imagine the Democratic and Republican parties as quasi-permanent coalitions of parties and you will be more accurate. There's a reason why TechnicallyNOTademocrat Bernie Sanders was even able to run for the nomination in the first place - noone even batted an eye about that.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:47
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:In a parliamentary sense, Imagine the Democratic and Republican parties as quasi-permanent coalitions of parties and you will be more accurate. There's a reason why TechnicallyNOTademocrat Bernie Sanders was even able to run for the nomination in the first place - noone even batted an eye about that. In that context, it is very clear that the "extremes" of both parties/coalition are becoming more dominant but ultimately the Democrats kept a much tighter lid on their side (maybe to their own detriment).
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Sanders was able to run but he was sabotaged by the DNC at every turn, as the email leaks have revealed. It's part of why people, many of them Democrats, hate Hillary.
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