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Elder Postsman posted:there's way too many hidden swipes and taps in iOS, i don't like it the interface has been trash since at least the introduction of the long press
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ios is fine. what the gently caress did the home button do? i dont even remember.
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I'm a big fan of the complete and utter crapshoot when I occasionally install an app and want to place it on the home screen whether the icon that's already there will move out of the way or not, or the one next to it will feel more polite, or nothing will move and it will keep trying to create a folder. but apart from thatJonny 290 posted:ios is fine
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May 1, 2024 04:42
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Jonny 290 posted:ios is fine. what the gently caress did the home button do? i dont even remember. it takes you home. also let’s you view/close all the open apps oh and it also unlocks the phone, which is a better way to do it than cameras or whatever the gently caress nonsense apple came up with
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May 1, 2024 05:08
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it gets cold here. idk, idk.
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May 1, 2024 05:20
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the home button did all the stuff swipe up from below the screen does today swipe up from below the screen used to be control panel so it got moved to the upper right
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May 1, 2024 05:27
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haveblue posted:swipe up from below the screen used to be control panel still is on the se3, and because i switched to horrible notchphones first it's like 50/50 on whether i'll use the right gesture
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May 1, 2024 13:57
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I still don't know how to use windowing in iOS.
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May 1, 2024 17:52
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no one does. it's all secret gestures in invisible magic zones
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May 1, 2024 17:54
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ios doesn't do windowing, you're thinking of ipados
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May 1, 2024 18:18
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it doesn't help that apps need to support it and nothing tells you they do until you actually try to do a split screen on an app. stage manager kind of solved that but i don't know of anyone who has ever used it - an ipad screen is just too tiny and app UIs are just too big for it to be useful. continuity is great though. stick your ipad next to your mac, and when you move your mouse to the right edge of your mac you start controlling your ipad, keyboard included. i use my ipad as a third monitor for stuff like teams, music, and of course app ios development
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May 1, 2024 18:40
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The Fool posted:ios doesn't do windowing, you're thinking of ipados
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May 1, 2024 18:41
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on ipados "stage manager" is basically your window management, unless you have an ipados app that supports split-screen view (not all of them do). but if you enable stage manager you can resize any app regardless problem is, switching between them loving sucks. you get a pseudo-dock on the side that doesn't function anything like its macos equivalent e: and even if you "add new window" to group processes together (while in stage manager) to easily switch between them, it gives you a card stack kinda thing. but that's no guarantee one or both processes won't run out of memory — i usually run into this while using draw things and safari together. if you're not careful both will run out of memory, and the behavior there is exactly the same as it normally is, i.e. the app force-quits but you don't know it because the card stack just shows you a screenshot of the most recent display it sucks rear end Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 18:42
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Beeftweeter posted:but that's no guarantee one or both processes won't run out of memory — i usually run into this while using draw things and safari together. if you're not careful both will run out of memory, and the behavior there is exactly the same as it normally is, i.e. the app force-quits but you don't know it because the card stack just shows you a screenshot of the most recent display lol lmao
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May 1, 2024 18:53
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wow. maybe they shouldn't have tried to shoehorn windowing into a mobile device? gently caress, even multitasking was probably a mistake
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May 1, 2024 19:04
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I don't think anyone outside of tech reviewers ever actually wanted ipad multitasking, and definitely not in its weird-assed implementation they settled on, but it got put in a bunch of articles that pitted the ipad against other tablets, which it's important to note almost none of which exist today switching between full screen apps is sufficient, who knew?
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May 1, 2024 19:06
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sometimes i like having a web browser open on one half of my ipad to reference while i'm typing something in a text editor on the other half.
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May 1, 2024 19:08
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i'm almost certain you're right, idiotic tech press dweebs kept writing ipad reviews where they lamented that it wasn't a macbook tablet. no one who actually used the things wanted that or anything like that
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May 1, 2024 19:09
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Pinterest Mom posted:sometimes i like having a web browser open on one half of my ipad to reference while i'm typing something in a text editor on the other half. sounds like a great job for a laptop or desktop computer
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May 1, 2024 19:09
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like, technically, i can remotely administer windows servers from my phone with a console or full rdp interface. is that something i ever want to do, or something that it makes sense to design a 6-13" platform around doing? no, it isn't, because there are better tools for that job.
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May 1, 2024 19:11
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this is like complaining that your car doesn't wash your laundry. maybe it could, but the experience would loving suck.
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May 1, 2024 19:12
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infernal machines posted:sounds like a great job for a laptop or desktop computer the most important use case for driving new iPad sales is making it easier to do your email job while sitting at an airport/on an airplane
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May 1, 2024 19:20
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incidentally an example of such a job is iPad product manager at apple
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May 1, 2024 19:21
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infernal machines posted:sounds like a great job for a laptop or desktop computer What's a computer?
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May 1, 2024 19:29
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I use my 2017 iPad Pro for Twitch, shitposting, and YouTube. I’m sure 99% of all other people also use it for those things and probably a good percentage use it as an e-reader as well. Every other advertised feature is worthless.
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May 1, 2024 19:33
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infernal machines posted:like, technically, i can remotely administer windows servers from my phone with a console or full rdp interface. i have used rdp from my ipad and the experience is mostly pretty pleasant since it is fairly high res and supports windows' native touch gestures (if you turn them on). i've also used it on my android phone since it's 2160x1080 (21:9), you can fit basically a normal desktop display there and only need to scale it to like 125%, and it's truly full screen since there's no stupid loving notch in the way otoh i'd never do that on my se3, even though there's no notch. the resolution is just too low. forget about it on a notch/dynamic island phone either, they don't let you utilize the full display and that's garbage
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May 1, 2024 19:34
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infernal machines posted:wow. maybe they shouldn't have tried to shoehorn windowing into a mobile device? they should just force you to buy another device for each additional app you want to use concurrently. they've already mostly solved this with the Continuity features
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May 1, 2024 19:35
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The Merkinman posted:What's a computer? a miserable pile of bits
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The Merkinman posted:What's a computer? something with a mouse and keyboard for example 
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hobbesmaster posted:the most important use case for driving new iPad sales is making it easier to do your email job while sitting at an airport/on an airplane let me just reply to emails all day on this touchscreen keyboard oh, it sucks for that? well i guess i can get a type cover. congratulations, you just invented a laptop that can't sit on your lap
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infernal machines posted:let me just reply to emails all day on this touchscreen keyboard honestly i've been doing most of my recent posting on my ipad (in portrait mode, typically), and it's really not terrible. i can hit maybe 50 wpm, which is much slower, but my typo rate is way higher than on a normal computer anyway so it's fine. it gives me a chance to proofread lol
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Pinterest Mom posted:sometimes i like having a web browser open on one half of my ipad to reference while i'm typing something in a text editor on the other half. I mostly want to do this or reference information stored in the 1password app in situations when there isn't a autofill option. It's a rare case but jesus gently caress it sucks when you realize you need to swap between 1password and something else a bunch of times.
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Internet Old One posted:I mostly want to do this or reference information stored in the 1password app in situations when there isn't a autofill option. It's a rare case but jesus gently caress it sucks when you realize you need to swap between 1password and something else a bunch of times. yep, that and reviewing account information side-by-side are the two primary cases i use it for Agile Vector fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 23:38
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ipad multi tasking has always sucked poo poo and always has macos full screening has always sucked poo poo and is more proof that osx lion was the worst release of osx of all time.
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Wild EEPROM posted:osx lion was the worst release of osx of all time.
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Pinterest Mom posted:sometimes i like having a web browser open on one half of my ipad to reference while i'm typing something in a text editor on the other half. i project my iPad in the classroom and i like having my calculator app (Calculate84, ofc) open next to Notability when i do solutions so i can demonstrate the calculations. calculator is 1/3 width, Notability is 2/3. works great when it’s set up but it requires a tap on a hidden magic zone at the top, a menu select, another menu select, sometimes a swipe from a hidden magic zone at the top if I forget whether the app you select in the previous menu appears on the left or the right, and then another swipe of the divider between the two apps to resize everything (they’re half-and-half by default). solid 15-20 seconds each time i want to do it which is an eternity in a room of easily distracted teenagers, maybe this is what “stage manager” is for but I think my iPad might predate that or it’s invisible and undiscoverable or something. 3 out of 5 experience
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Wild EEPROM posted:ipad multi tasking has always sucked poo poo and always has it’s frankly amazing how dogshit it is
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using my iPad to play a video while using my iPhone to google something. many such cases
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Strangelet Wave posted:i project my iPad in the classroom and i like having my calculator app (Calculate84, ofc) open next to Notability when i do solutions so i can demonstrate the calculations. calculator is 1/3 width, Notability is 2/3. works great when it’s set up but it requires a tap on a hidden magic zone at the top, a menu select, another menu select, sometimes a swipe from a hidden magic zone at the top if I forget whether the app you select in the previous menu appears on the left or the right, and then another swipe of the divider between the two apps to resize everything (they’re half-and-half by default). solid 15-20 seconds each time i want to do it which is an eternity in a room of easily distracted teenagers, maybe this is what “stage manager” is for but I think my iPad might predate that or it’s invisible and undiscoverable or something. 3 out of 5 experience the window splitting menu isn't quite hidden, it's the three sometimes not-very-visible dots at the top (always centered). if there's only one app/view open it'll just have one at the top, but each split window gets their own, so subsequent menus are at the top center of their view i don't think every ipad got stage manager, but i think if it allows split view then you should also be able to get stage manager. you enable it from the control center with this
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these dots:Beeftweeter posted:even works with sms i cropped the video obviously so they're not centered, but ykwim
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