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I freaking love All For One. It's so very rare to see a main antagonist actually care about his underlings. You can tell he really cares about Shigaraki and his development. He's patient with him and his goons. Feels like a serious threat and looks intimidating as all hell. He even seems to have a certain sense of humor over him. Actually a lot of shounen jump antagonists right now are pretty great. One Piece just got done with Doflamingo, Food wars has food Hitler etc. Oh and then there is Bleach... I guess...
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Food Hitler isn't really a great antagonist because literally everything about him from his backstory to his motivations and even his personality is Really Stupid
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May 14, 2016 08:40
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Which fits the over the top and ridiculous premise of Food Wars perfectly.
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May 14, 2016 08:44
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Vengarr posted:There is a zero percent chance that a guy named All For One who lives entirely to steal from others is actually training up a successor from the goodness of his heart.
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May 14, 2016 09:00
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Mulderman posted:I freaking love All For One. naruto's current villain is the new author, which easily beats the others
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May 14, 2016 18:40
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What is food Hitler's actual name out of curiosity.
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May 14, 2016 18:59
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MonsterEnvy posted:What is food Hitler's actual name out of curiosity. Food Hitler is his proper name, so Food.
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May 14, 2016 19:02
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Terper posted:That's a way to read his name. You could also read it as everything he does is "all for one" - Shigaraki.  Courtesy of Viz.
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May 14, 2016 19:31
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MonsterEnvy posted:What is food Hitler's actual name out of curiosity.
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May 14, 2016 21:34
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Mikl posted:
Who, in spite of being clearly out of his gord is still; 
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May 15, 2016 11:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3OS705FAYA
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May 15, 2016 11:41
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Heck yes. Edit: Okay, what's he actually saying there, though? Also what is that music that's playing, I like it. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 15, 2016 |
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May 15, 2016 11:48
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The animated version of my avatar was better than I could imagine.
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May 15, 2016 20:09
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Waffleman_ posted:The animated version of my avatar was better than I could imagine. Wreathe thyself in the pitchest black
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May 15, 2016 20:11
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TriffTshngo posted:Wreathe thyself in the pitchest black Drown in the darkness
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May 15, 2016 20:18
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Shigakrai still creepy.
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May 15, 2016 22:17
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I have a feeling that he's just going to show up at the end and say his one pre-USJ line. They're going to devote the entire next episode to chapter 11.
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May 15, 2016 22:29
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Vengarr posted:I have a feeling that he's just going to show up at the end and say his one pre-USJ line. They're going to devote the entire next episode to chapter 11. Probably, at least re: Shigaraki. He doesn't show up after that until the attack (well, besides the back of his head showing up when the reporters are crowding around outside Yueii, before he destroys they gate), so unless they go all the way to USJ in the next episode (which would cover a lot of material) he's not going to. I was going to say I don't think they'll do just one chapter for the next episode, now that the pace as picked up, but Shigaraki and co. being menacing and mysterious is the natural endpoint for an episode, and the next chapter is when the class president is elected and Shigaraki, as mentioned above, shows up there, so they can't put that before his first appearance (or, at least, shouldn't). They could maybe have chapter 11 be the first half, the villain bar scene come before the midpoint break, and the second half be chapter 12, though, ending on the shot of the disintegrated gate instead. Edit: Really, all three of the next chapters could work as episode end points; there's Shigaraki and co. at the villain bar, the destroyed gate, and then the villains emerging from the portal and Shigaraki suggesting they kill the kids after learning All Might's not there. I'm curious how they're going to split things up; I don't think they can make it all the way through the sports festival before 12/13 episodes are up (I don't remember how many it got exactly), so it's ending with or just after USJ probably. Edit again: Also, checking those older chapters again, it's easy to forget that Shigaraki's actually pretty clever and powerful; he throws those tantrums and all, but in the fight with Aizawa he hangs back and figures out Aizawa's weakness pretty quickly, and easily takes his attack on him, catching it and destroying Aizawa's elbow instead. He's inexperienced and weird (and a huge nerd, given all the video game references and stuff), but I bet he really does have the potential to succeed All For One. He really is a villainous Deku. Edit the third: He's also ridiculously fast; he goes from standing far away to right at Tsuyu and co. and about to disintegrate her face in an instant. He looks skinny but he's at like peak physical ability for a human who doesn't have a quirk enhancing it, jeez. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 15, 2016 |
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Do we talk about anime stuff here? because I thought the latest ep did a good job of exploring Baku, who I found to be a pretty opaque, as a character, in the manga. I must have skimmed over the Deku/Baku backstory stuff in my read through.... It sort of hits home that Baku just doesn't want help from people he perceives as weaker than him, because it's a slight..it almost makes sense. At least for messed up kids. All of the emotional swells narrative for Deku are points of failure for Baku... or can be perceived as such if you were told you're great your whole life...at first I found Baku to be unbelievable as a character, but he really makes a lot of sense. Edit: it's extra neat when the anime episode and the manga chapter sync up with themes. I also love how All Might uses the word "SHONEN" I don't quite get why he's a japanese dude who speaks like american but I guess that's several generations of strife or whatever. I also know next to nothing about western comics, is there any symbology in All Might wearing a 'Silver Age' costume, for the Deku/Baku fight? hell astro course fucked around with this message at 00:35 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 00:21
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Space-Bird posted:Do we talk about anime stuff here? because I thought the latest ep did a good job of exploring Baku, who I found to be a pretty opaque, as a character, in the manga. I must have skimmed over the Deku/Baku backstory stuff in my read through.... Yeah, anime stuff gets discussed in here when people want to talk about spoilery things/speculate on how it'll handle this or that/compare it to the manga, and so on. And I agree that the anime's doing a pretty good job of taking advantage of the medium to add impact and such to the story. On an unrelated subject, I just realized something: All For One and One For All actually have something rather major in common, in that they're both powers that use the strength of other people. However, how they do so is very, very different. All For One, obviously, is a power that steals other people's powers, its user growing stronger by taking from other people. One For All, on the other hand, is the accumulated strength of the people who've held it, supported and grown by each bearer before they passed it to the next person, even stronger than it was before. That is a really neat parallel and I'm wondering if it was intentional or not; it's so subtle, but it's also so perfect.
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Roland Jones posted:
Yeah, absolutely. I'd wager it's super intentional. You wanna play All for One, and One for All off of each other. I think the hands grasping onto Shigaraki are a method of AfO transferring his power. Shigaraki is the 'anti-Deku''. One dude loves heroes, one dude hates them.
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I'd say it's 100% intentional. It's an obvious good vs evil ability dynamic. As for the silver age costume in relation to the fight: haven't had the chance to see it yet, but from what I remember, no. Shouldn't have any bearing except for All Might trying to be super iconic for his first day teaching the kids.
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May 16, 2016 01:20
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Space-Bird posted:I also know next to nothing about western comics, is there any symbology in All Might wearing a 'Silver Age' costume, for the Deku/Baku fight? I wouldn't really call his costume Silver Age, it looks more 70s than anything else. A character like All Might would totally have a cape in the Silver Age. His powers and attitude are pretty Silver Age though. Western Comics are generally classified in the time periods of Golden Age(30s- 40s), Silver Age(Post War-60s), Bronze Age(70s - early 80s), and Modern Age(mid 80s on). Sometimes people refer to the later 80s and the 90s as the Dark Age with the Modern Age following that. Representative heroes of the various ages might be
*This is the Space Cop with a magic ring version, not the one you probably don't know about from the Golden Age who wore a cape and had a weakness to wood. The Silver Age was the age of goofy-rear end stories. The Comic Code ruled and publishers were more interested in episodic stories than anything else. This is when Batman was like Adam West and when all the Super Dickery comics came out. Nothing could stop a hero and evil always was stupid. If I were to put My Hero Academia heroes as representative of the various American Comic ages I'd go with:
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All Might is silver age as gently caress Also the Comics Code makes me laugh forever because they wanted to stop Judgement Day!, an adaptation of a Ray Bradbury story that was very heavy handedly about racism because WHOA YOU CAN'T HAVE A BLACK ASTRONAUT
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Yeah the more I dig into comic book history the more I see the comic code as consvervative_principles.exe.
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Space-Bird posted:Yeah, absolutely. I'd wager it's super intentional. You wanna play All for One, and One for All off of each other. I think the hands grasping onto Shigaraki are a method of AfO transferring his power. Shigaraki is the 'anti-Deku''. One dude loves heroes, one dude hates them. Rodenthar Drothman posted:I'd say it's 100% intentional. It's an obvious good vs evil ability dynamic. Thinking about it a little more (I am very tired because my sleep schedule is awful), yeah, it's almost definitely intentional; I was originally thinking about it in the wrong way and got hung up one some details. But it's actually pretty straightforward; you start with an ability that gets stronger through giving/taking (while I'm pretty sure One For All was thought up first, you could also begin with All For One easily here) and want to make a counterpart to it, you make it a power that gets stronger through taking/giving. The series has played it rather subtly, though, rather than making a big deal out of it, which I think is probably a good thing.
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The comic code wasn't so much about moral panic as it was a means of killing the highly successful horror comic genre.
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Gyges posted:I wouldn't really call his costume Silver Age, it looks more 70s than anything else. A character like All Might would totally have a cape in the Silver Age. His powers and attitude are pretty Silver Age though. 
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May 16, 2016 02:43
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The Silver age costume thing is less about it actually being Silver age, and more about them explicitly saying it was Silver age.
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the comics code was just them copying the idea of the motion picture production code, for mostly the same kinds of reasons. by the late 60s the movie industry wised up and replaced their "code" with the age-based rating system. the movie industry got to pretend like they were still implementing a regime of self-censorship while the public started getting cool movies with graphic murder and titties in them. the comics industry never got the memo
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Roland Jones posted:I was originally thinking about it in the wrong way and got hung up one some details. But it's actually pretty straightforward This kinda sums up the whole series. You keep expecting to to veer in some direction or pull out a crazy twist, but it just keeps this straight course. That is a really difficult thing to do in writing, which is what I admire about the series. It's a lot easier to throw in some hammy twists or jokes to keep the reader engaged, but BnHA has been pretty earnest, It's extremely refreshing.
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Serious Frolicking posted:The comic code wasn't so much about moral panic as it was a means of killing the highly successful horror comic genre. Killing of the horror genre was a pleasant byproduct of holding congressional hearings where quacks got to give insane theories that said much, much more about their hosed up psyche than anything else in the name of thinking of the children. The driving force of the comics code was protecting the youth from being turned gay or in some other manner corrupting the youth of America. The gore and such that was, more or less, integral to horror comics was part of the larger list of things leading to juvenile delinquency. Horror themes in comics would eventually return after being cut with super heroics in the 70s. This was of course after some tweaking of the code though. poo poo, I forgot he sometimes wore a cape. He could be the most Silver Age character ever. I fear for poor Deku, a force gorilla wedding is all but certain now.
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Yeah, I was just referring to the fact that he said it. I have no idea what 'Silver Age' means, outside of like...it's a time period in american 'cape and cowl' comics. I know a lot of people blame the 'comics code' for essentially killing comics in america...but it's interesting to actually see people place some of the onus on the publishers as well. I mean, I don't think it's out of line to not sell murder porn to children, but people sure make it sound like they wanted to illegalize drawing people in panels. I really didn't grow up reading american super hero comics, so it's this sort of perplexing alternate universe to me.
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Space-Bird posted:Yeah, I was just referring to the fact that he said it. I have no idea what 'Silver Age' means, outside of like...it's a time period in american 'cape and cowl' comics. The comics code and the publishers are intertwined because the comics code is a lot like the MPAA. When Congress was getting pissy about Batman turning children gay, and depictions of crime turning them into hooligans, the publishers got together and made a board that would enforce stupid, stupid poo poo. It was combination of a moral panic and elements of Cold War political fears. So you couldn't talk about sex or drugs, but you also couldn't show any governmental official as being corrupt/bad or show crime. Which is why Superman was always making Jimmy marry a monkey and Batman's villains were acting goofy enough to be part of Flash's Rogues. Really though, if you're under 40 it's very unlikely that much of what you read in comics was significantly curtailed by the Comics Code. It still existed, and it still had some dumb rules, but it had been significantly modified by that point. Also there were increasing numbers of comics that were published without Comics Code approval.
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Space-Bird posted:Yeah, I was just referring to the fact that he said it. I have no idea what 'Silver Age' means, outside of like...it's a time period in american 'cape and cowl' comics. You are dramatically underestimating what the code actually was: quote:
It was also formed in large part because of a psychologist's book, Seduction of the Innocent, blaming comics for juvenile delinquency. Or at least, most people believe it was, since the code was written after the book's publication and the subsequent outrage it whipped up, and also some Senate hearings about whether horror comics contributed to juvenile delinquency. Yes, actual Senate hearings, about whether comics were corrupting the youth of the country. That said, yeah, it is also very old and was eventually toned down before being discarded. Still, it was pretty ridiculous in its original incarnation. A particularly notable incident (that had far-reaching effects, but not for reasons you might expect) was one story almost being banned for the narration saying it was told by "a wandering wolfman", because of the above part where you couldn't depict or have anything to do with werewolves and other monsters at all. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 04:46 on May 16, 2016 |
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Roland Jones posted:You are dramatically underestimating what the code actually was: Oh yeah, to be clear I do not know a ton about it. so thanks!
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Gyges posted:The comics code and the publishers are intertwined because the comics code is a lot like the MPAA. When Congress was getting pissy about Batman turning children gay, and depictions of crime turning them into hooligans, the publishers got together and made a board that would enforce stupid, stupid poo poo. It was combination of a moral panic and elements of Cold War political fears. So you couldn't talk about sex or drugs, but you also couldn't show any governmental official as being corrupt/bad or show crime. Which is why Superman was always making Jimmy marry a monkey and Batman's villains were acting goofy enough to be part of Flash's Rogues. i want to emphasize again the difference between the mpaa's rating system and the motion picture production code. the creation of the mpaa rating system was unequivocally a positive move w/r/t movie censorship. i think we've outgrown it, but it was genius imo and really opened things up for filmmakers of the time
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Space-Bird posted:Oh yeah, to be clear I do not know a ton about it. so thanks! No problem; it's really one of those things that doesn't sound so bad until you actually see it. I actually forgot some of the most ridiculous details of it until I went and looked it up again to past it here.
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Space-Bird posted:This kinda sums up the whole series. You keep expecting to to veer in some direction or pull out a crazy twist, but it just keeps this straight course. That is a really difficult thing to do in writing, which is what I admire about the series. It's a lot easier to throw in some hammy twists or jokes to keep the reader engaged, but BnHA has been pretty earnest, It's extremely refreshing. I figure some people might be coming into My Hero Academia, especially the anime, off of One Punch Man, and expecting it to be another superhero-based sendup, when Academia is pretty much an earnest battle shonen series with pretty good pacing.
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Roland Jones posted:You are dramatically underestimating what the code actually was: Yeah, it was pretty hosed up. For reference, here's a pretty good silver age cover for a style guide: 
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