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Das Boo posted:If people wanna say it's one of the most important films ever made, you might as well take a hard look. Important almost always doesn't translate into being entertaining/enjoyable. If you're interested in the history and development of film then fine, watch it, but I don't want to feel like I'm doing a homework assignment when I sit down to watch a movie.
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Jesus, it's not a difficult movie to watch. If anything the abstract nature makes it easier. Just watch it and don't try to create a narrative out of the images, instead take it as a form of relaxing meditation that doesn't have to have a structure. People who think art is "hard" and "pretentious" generally think so because they are insecure and try to overthink things, when the correct way to enjoy such things is with as much naivite and childlike wonder as you can muster. Let your primal, uninformed feelings guide you. steinrokkan has a new favorite as of 20:00 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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I think it's OK you don't like something.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I think it's OK you don't like something. no
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steinrokkan posted:Jesus, it's not a difficult movie to watch. If anything the abstract nature makes it easier. Just watch it and don't try to create a narrative out of the images, instead take it as a form of relaxing meditation that doesn't have to have a structure. Art is art but I'm not going to go out of my way to look at/watch it if it is not entertaining to me. It is pretentious if you have to explain to people how they are supposed to enjoy it (implying they don't know how), but pretentious doesn't necessarily mean bad. But movies are primarily entertainment. If I want to watch something after dinner to unwind I'll be much more likely to put in jurassic park or bad boys 2 than citizen kane or schindlers list or some obscure french art film.
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We Know Catheters posted:Citizen Kane is dull and horrible. I don't know why people think it's the greatest movie ever made. It's reputation is based on innovation more than entertainment. I think it's decent enough.
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We Know Catheters posted:Citizen Kane is dull and horrible. I don't know why people think it's the greatest movie ever made. Ted Rall? 
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Jul 29, 2017 20:12
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WampaLord posted:Ted Rall? Is this guy a gamer
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Henchman of Santa posted:It's reputation is based on innovation more than entertainment. I think it's decent enough. It's plot structure, strictly speaking, is antiquated, but it still has plenty of spectacle to make up for it. It is a beautiful movie, in a way that compliments its story.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Is this guy a gamer No, he's the worst political cartoonist ever.
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WampaLord posted:No, he's the worst political cartoonist ever. You wouldn't know it from that particular strip though.
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Jul 29, 2017 20:24
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Jerry Cotton posted:You wouldn't know it from that particular strip though. Would you say you agree with his obituary of Ebert that he used to glorify his own ego?
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steinrokkan posted:Would you say you agree with his obituary of Ebert that he used to glorify his own ego? Yeah sure why the heck not 
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Because that cartoon is completely repugnant.
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WampaLord posted:Ted Rall? im sure thats exactly how his conversation with rogert ebert went down and he's not "misremembering" the details at all, and that regardless of the details, he is completely right to poo poo talk a dead guy, let alone one of the most well-known critics in the US who had recently passed of the time of this comic. its me, im the guy saying "calm your tits" to zelda williams after her dad died
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WampaLord posted:Ted Rall? I don't know who that is. Ebert was alright. He was a simple man who liked boobs.
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spit on my clit posted:im sure thats exactly how his conversation with rogert ebert went down and he's not "misremembering" the details at all, and that regardless of the details, he is completely right to poo poo talk a dead guy, let alone one of the most well-known critics in the US who had recently passed of the time of this comic. He is right to do so, but if his "criticism" is "he dumb", he's just an rear end in a top hat.
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spit on my clit posted:im sure thats exactly how his conversation with rogert ebert went down and he's not "misremembering" the details at all, and that regardless of the details even as is it seems pretty bad "there was this time i told ebert (a dummy) that an older, widely acclaimed film was boring and unwatchable in modern times and he didn't even argue against my subjective experience of the film! he just provided historical context for why the film receives the praise that it does and why others might see its merits and he did it in a way that i couldn't dispute! he actually sat with me for an hour on this! truly, he was an idiot"
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steinrokkan posted:Jesus, it's not a difficult movie to watch. If anything the abstract nature makes it easier. Just watch it and don't try to create a narrative out of the images, instead take it as a form of relaxing meditation that doesn't have to have a structure. I guess we just disagree entirely on Kubrick films, but I can promise you from industry experience the fine art community is as pretentious and elitist as all loving get out to the point of revulsion.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Art is art but I'm not going to go out of my way to look at/watch it if it is not entertaining to me. It is pretentious if you have to explain to people how they are supposed to enjoy it (implying they don't know how), but pretentious doesn't necessarily mean bad. But movies are primarily entertainment. If I want to watch something after dinner to unwind I'll be much more likely to put in jurassic park or bad boys 2 than citizen kane or schindlers list or some obscure french art film. It is your fault if you don't know how to enjoy it. Weather you think so or not. You have to recognize your personal tastes and biased attitude. If something is obtuse and slower and it doesn't entertain you it's because you've decided to not enjoy it. Also citizen Kane isn't some complicated art film or anything. It's not even slow. It's very fast moving and has very traditional storytelling about broad themes of hubris and greed. Just admit that you don't really feel like thinking hard when watching a film and want to watch dumb fun movies.
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I haven't seen the whole movie but I've always thought Jurassic Park was boring. (Which is why I haven't seen the whole movie.) e: I mean that's not exactly an opinion but anyway. If I am bored by something it is, by definition, boring 
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Jerry Cotton posted:I haven't seen the whole movie but I've always thought Jurassic Park was boring. (Which is why I haven't seen the whole movie.) That's fine but you've really just said nothing, and you have made it impossible to talk about the movie with you. That's why saying something is boring is boring criticism.
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The_Rob posted:you have made it impossible to talk about the movie with you. But... that's the perfect outcome for me, isn't it?
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Jerry Cotton posted:But... that's the perfect outcome for me, isn't it? Yeah but that's why you're better off just not saying anything about it at all really.
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I have not seen bad boys 2
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i haven't seen bad boys II, but i've seen Hot Fuzz
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They should stop splitting restrooms, sports, and award ceremonies by sex. Sports teams should include men and women, and there should be no best female or best male actor category. It's just best actor, period. I mean if you're splitting it already, why not have best male director and best female director categories. Best male CGI studio and best female CGI studio, and best male or female composers. Make it so the academy award ceremony can be done in half the time. It might be a little unfair when it comes to sports but it will be way more interesting. Mu Zeta has a new favorite as of 15:01 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Mu Zeta posted:It might be a little unfair when it comes to sports but it will be way more interesting. Yeah it'll be super interesting to watch men punch women in the head or tackle them while weighing 100 more pounds. Or less problematically, just dunking on them over and over because they can't do anything about a 7 foot, 280-pound guy.
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Mu Zeta posted:They should stop splitting restrooms, sports, and award ceremonies by sex. Sports teams should include men and women, and there should be no best female or best male actor category. It's just best actor, period. I mean if you're splitting it already, why not have best male director and best female director categories. Best male CGI studio and best female CGI studio, and best male or female composers. Make it so the academy award ceremony can be done in half the time. if they just had a "best actor" category, and a man won that, there'd be so much outrage that a female did not win.
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Also legalize steroids for athletes under medical supervision. The movie stars do it already and kids look up to them. I guarantee Ben Affleck took them to bulk up for Batman. Stop pretending sports people are heroes for children and instead let's find out how far we can push our bodies through hardcore science. Henchman of Santa posted:Yeah it'll be super interesting to watch men punch women in the head or tackle them while weighing 100 more pounds. Or less problematically, just dunking on them over and over because they can't do anything about a 7 foot, 280-pound guy. This will never happen because teams will only recruit the best players. Why would they have female players that are underweight? They would have someone that's like Brienne of Tarth. They could just make more league categories like in soccer for lesser players. Mu Zeta has a new favorite as of 15:15 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Mu Zeta posted:Also legalize steroids for athletes under medical supervision. The movie stars do it already and kids look up to them. I guarantee Ben Affleck took them to bulk up for Batman. Stop pretending sports people are heroes for children and instead let's find out how far we can push our bodies through hardcore science. I am completely ok with all this. If people want to gently caress themselves up on steroids so they can do the 100 metres in 3 seconds, I want to see that. As for the problem of women competing with men, wouldn't weight categories go a long way to solving that? Plus, it opens up the possibility of the 100 metre sprint for people weighing over 400 pounds.
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Sunswipe posted:I am completely ok with all this. If people want to gently caress themselves up on steroids so they can do the 100 metres in 3 seconds, I want to see that. Weight classes in football at least would ruin the game. I think you need all weights from the skinny short dudes to punt the ball and the 350+ pound behemoths on the defensive line for the game to be played at its highest level. Anyway the system is fine as it is (for most sports - maybe it'd work in something like tennis but who cares about tennis). All you'd do by making just one league is keep 99.9% of women out of professional sports. There's clearly a market for them (albeit not as large) at least in basketball and sports like that, so why get rid of them so the tiny handful (if any) that would be qualified could play in the NBA? I get the idea but it falls apart immediately if you start considering it objectively.
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Mu Zeta posted:Also legalize steroids for athletes under medical supervision. The movie stars do it already and kids look up to them. I guarantee Ben Affleck took them to bulk up for Batman. Stop pretending sports people are heroes for children and instead let's find out how far we can push our bodies through hardcore science. This is already happening. Only cycling has taken anti-doping at all seriously.
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Sunswipe posted:As for the problem of women competing with men, wouldn't weight categories go a long way to solving that? Not at all.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Weight classes in football at least would ruin the game. I think you need all weights from the skinny short dudes to punt the ball and the 350+ pound behemoths on the defensive line for the game to be played at its highest level. Fair enough. Not being into sports, I haven't put a lot of thought into it. I just really want to see ridiculously unsuitable people doing events. Feel free to make a joke about your least favorite sports team at this point.
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I'd agree on merging best actor/actress category if Hollywood could make it about the actual acting and not social and political wanking. Which it can't.
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